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Secret Societies : The Vatican And The New World Order

Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:31
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  • The Vatican is not involved in any plot to inflict a NWO on anyone. The above article is anti-Vatican nonsense presented by a writer named after a fish.

    • BEEF SUPREME

      Then perhaps you’d care to explain why the OUTLINE for Global Governance (including the original written ‘blue-print’ for Communism and Socialism) is contained, in its entirety, in the Summa Theologica. That’s right, the NWO was first written of in the Summa. And it is spelled out in excruciating detail.

      Anyone who cares to can read it. Almost no one will. Five volumes are more than Catholics are willing to tackle.

      If you’re not anti-Vatican, it’s because you haven’t done enough reading of your own. And a Catholic criticizing someone for modeling himself after a fish is simply priceless. Look at your PAPA, sir or ma’am.

      Catholicism absolutely cannot withstand a substantive investigation into its roots, its history and its symbols. Your faith is utterly misplaced. Unless you are a willing servant of Babylon, that is.

      Stop praying to Mary and pray to your Father — as you are instructed to in the Scriptures. Ask Him. He will show you.

      • BEEF SUPREME is wrong.

        The blueprint for a NWO global tyranny under communism and socialism is outlined in the Jewish Talmud, not the Summa Theologica by St. Thomas Aquinas.

        Since the French Revolution in 1789 and the dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806, over three billion innocent human beings have lost their lives in wars, world wars, civil disorders, concentration camps and abortion clinics. All this killing was instigated by Judaic-Masons according to precepts put forth in the Jewish Talmud, the “bible” of Lucifer, which contains virulent anti-Christian notions written by Christ-hating rabbis longing to rebuild Solomon’s temple on Mt. Moriah in Jerusalem and elevate their false “messiah” Antichrist into a position of global dictatorship.

        Biblical prophecy foretells all this and more, namely that both the new temple and the beast will be annihilated when the true Christ “visits” the earth by means of plasma lightning storms during the Three Days of Darkness, which will be followed by a lengthy epoch of holiness, bounty and peace in a world completely purified of physical and spiritual contaminants.

        Recent current events – such as the rise of anti-Vatican sentiment and the deliberate ruination of the free-world’s economic structure by Judaic-Masonic bankers — indicate that the “last days” of our age have arrived, and that Bible prophecy is coming true.

        St. Thomas’ Summa Theologica is indeed a deep and monumental work not meant for average readers. But St. Thomas also wrote an abridged and simplified version of the Summa called “THE COMPENDIUM OF FAITH,” which I have read. I can attest to the fact that it presents absolutely no endorsement of communism or socialism.

        St. Thomas believed in limited Christian monarchy, which he (along with virtually every major ancient, medieval and modern political theorist of note) considered vastly superior to democracy, the least desirable and most easily manipulated form of government.

  • Meet the new world order same as the old world order.

    Oftentimes I think too hard when at the end of the day a lot of theories can be boiled down to one sentence.

  • Secret Societies Promote Worship Of The Image Of The Beast Among Protestants.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM0Y4OPDi3Q

    • BEEF SUPREME

      Say, cyberkahuna…

      I was wondering what point you are trying to convey with this article about James VI and sodomy. What do the reputed sexual proclivities of this man (no matter how disgusting) have to do with anything? Why do you keep posting this link everywhere?

      • Good question. well the majority of protestants that write Catholic hate story’s films etc don’t even realize that the very commissioner of the supposed bible they read from king james the 1′st NOT the other king james was quite a monster. Sort of a people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones kind of thing. I find it disgusting that ALL protestant ministers know this and conveniently draw a mental block when it comes to telling the followers. Really all protestant flavored religions can be outed for what they are. Take the lutherans for example. It is very common knowledge that adolph hitler got his ideology from one of luthers works. Even mentions it in that nasty book mine kampf here http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler Funny because he was raised a good catholic then he reads luthers garbage and it’s a downhill slide to hell from there. That’s why. Now your turn. Why do you write anti Catholic things?

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “Why do you write anti Catholic things?”

        I write anti-Catholic things because I have come to believe that the Catholic Church is exactly the opposite of what it claims itself to be. I am not Protestant; nor am I Christian. Therefore, I can rightly be said to be anti-Protestant as well. I am not against the sincere individuals who are convinced that they are members of the “One True Church” – but watch out whenever you hear claim to that title being advertised. The individuals themselves are simply lacking real leadership, and they are lacking motivation to explore the Old and New Testament Scriptures to find out WHAT YHWH has to say. YHWH says (about 1000 times throughout the Book): ‘Do as I say. Do not turn to the left. Do not turn to the right. Here are MY Orders, MY Commandments, MY Statutes and MY Ordinances. These Rules and Laws WILL NOT CHANGE. If there should arise men who tell you other than what I have here told you and you are swayed by them, then you will be WITHOUT EXCUSE when you try to explain yourself to ME on the day of your judgment. Here are MY Rules… Here are MY Laws… Here is a detailed description of how I AM to be worshipped by MY people. If you accept rules or instructions other than these, or if you accept abridged or altered or amended or mingled versions of these rules and instructions, then you will know that you are following someone OTHER than ME.’

        This is the loudly proclaimed and often repeated mantra of the Holy Scriptures. And yet… the Catholic Church claims (as do the Talmudic Rabbis) that they have somehow managed to obtain the right, the permission of the MOST HIGH, to change His very clear instructions. Messiah Himself has told us that Heaven and Earth will pass away before one jot, one tittle of these instructions change or fail. I do not know of a more emphatic, a more black-and-white way for that sentiment to be expressed.

        I have taken the time to become familiar with the Old and the New Testaments. I have studied the verses in their original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek languages. I have labored to discover the portions of the texts which have been altered over the centuries and millennia, and I have discovered that it is surprisingly easy to accomplish this task. It is time consuming. It is not difficult.

        I have studied the history and the roots of the Catholic Church. I have studied the etymology of the very term ‘Church’ itself. I have discovered how easy it is to prove that there is no such thing as a ‘trinity’, with respect to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. I have learned the meaning of the symbols employed by the Catholic Church. I have learned many of the secrets of the Society of Jesus. I had planned to become a Jesuit Priest at one point in my life, and I have since made it my business to know as much about this order as I deem pertinent to my ongoing search. I have learned the meaning of the dome on the basilica, the meaning of the obelisk in the courtyard of St. Peter’s Basilica, as well as the meaning of all of the sun symbols and pagan fertility symbols. These are all symbols and icons which our Father tells us that HE HATES. I have studied the meaning behind the construction techniques and the geometry of the cathedrals. I have discovered that the power known as the Catholic Church is much, much older than 2000 years.

        I am a believer in the words of the Holy Scriptures, as originally written. I am a follower of Messiah Yehoshua. I reject any and all additions or fabrications falsely attributed to our Father in Heaven and His Son: The Way, the Truth and the Life. I have read in the Scriptures our Father’s repeated warning not to let ANY man or institution come between us and His instructions and I have taken our Father at His word. I deny any man or group of men who claim the right, no matter how convincingly their story be told, to tell a different version of events than the version of events told to us in the Holy Scriptures.

        This is why I write anti-Catholic things.

      • Pretty interesting. I dunno I just find it odd that very rarely have I ever saw articles from Catholics bashing other religions. In fact if there were none always placed here by other religions I suppose I wouldn’t have anything to write about in defense. I believe to each his own but bashing others, naw that’s just uncool period. I find it odd that those that push the love your fellow man GOD loves bit the most somehow think that they must be right so this gives them the right to disrespect others beliefs in the name of the Lord. I just see no need to be uncool like that and that’s what happens here all the time. I guess maybe we shall all see when we die someday!

      • And something else I just realized. I have been doing the exact same thing! Bashing others for their beliefs. I guess if anyone wants to think these kinds of things against the Catholic church that is their right also. Maybe I finally get the real reason that Catholics never bash other religions like that. wow maybe just a good head shake is all that’s ever needed when I see these things. Like when other religions push their agendas at peoples doors. I never see Catholics doing this kind of thing simply because we don’t have to. Sorry if I offended anyone I was truly mistaken.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        “I believe to each his own but bashing others, naw that’s just uncool period.”

        cyberkahuna,

        If we were talking about football teams or marijuana smoking or tap dancing, I would absolutely agree with you. When we are talking about a global organization which sells itself as the One True Guardian and Beacon of the Truth contained in the Holy Scriptures, then we have a completely different story on our hands. If you have read posts by me where I seemed to be bashing individual Catholics, and perhaps you have, then I did so amiss. I have a poor control over my spirit and a poor reign over my own tongue because I am weak. I am not strong like Messiah. I wish I was more like Him and I am trying to be. Personal insults and bashing is the opposite of what I intend to communicate when I am writing about the things spoken of in the Holy Scriptures. I believe that the Catholic Church is the heart of evil institutions in this world; but I do not believe that church-going, practicing Catholics should be accused by me. I believe they are misled. There is no doubt that the message I believe I should be spreading would be better received if I had a better control over my tongue. So bashing others is uncool – yes.

        This is a matter of religion, cyberkahuna – only not in the way that you think. Catholicism and Protestant Christianity are both religions. The Holy Scriptures do not contain religion. Again, what is in the Bible is not religion: What is in the Bible is the Way – the Way we are to live according to our Father’s instructions. It is a Guide. It is not a doctrine. All doctrine is either man made, or it is the work of the Adversary. All religion is really one religion. All religion is the work of Belial. Written within the Holy Scriptures are many things, but the only time religion is mentioned, it is always attributed to the ‘gods’ – lower-case ‘g’. The Ba’alim. The Fallen Ones. Religion is worship improperly attributed. Religion is worship directed toward the Ba’alim. The Sun-God of the Roman Catholic Church and the Queen of Heaven are absolutely NOT the Elohim of the Scriptures. The Bible speaks disparagingly about the ‘Queen of Heaven.’ Did you know that? The Scriptures tell us that ONE ascended to Heaven. The mother of Messiah did not. She will have her day in the resurrection of the just. Worship of ‘Mary’ (not the name of Messiah’s mother) IS NOT PERMITTED according to the Scriptures. We are to pray ONLY TO THE FATHER – not to Mary, not to the saints, not to the angels, not to other men.

        If I bash Catholics or Christians themselves, then I do them a disservice. I will be more careful to direct my words at their proper and intended target in the future. We are ALL His children. If I bash His any of His children, then I do so amiss.

      • So I’m wondering are you non denominational? Sorry I’m just wondering and trying to understand.

  • I’m not interested in any religion that has an exclusivity clause.

    You can not say to a reasonable person “Follow my one true (place whatever name you like here) or experience his wrath whereby you will suffer in the most extreme manner… but he loves you”. and expect them to embrace such nonsense. Can you?

    If some Lord of all said to me. “I’m the man and you can follow me if you want but I don’t care too much either way” I’d be far more impressed.

    • BEEF SUPREME

      That sounds perfectly reasonable to us men, Middle-aged-Mayhem. And I mean it. But we aren’t dealing with human intelligence here.

      If you could be persuaded to read the Bible cover-to-cover, you might see that the Most High actually explains Himself to a significant degree in both the Old and the New Testaments. There is much more to this equation than you are giving consideration to, just as there is much more (and other) contained in the texts of the Bible than many imagine there to be.

      He is much smarter than we are. This becomes very apparent as one begins to familiarize themselves with His written Word.

      • Read it. Thought It a very interesting document outlining what usually happens during each interglacial period in the Planets 100,000 year cycle.

        Thought it a good guide on how we should behave. A good heads up on how insignificant and important each of us is.

        Thought it a document that was largely written by second hand witnesses but none the less probably truthful.

        What else I need to know?

      • Not the old testament though, I googled that.

        I want to add to my list: Thought that it had translation anomalies all through it given that the original language isn’t too common these days. Yet fundies allow no room for dissent?

        Discussed much with a senior churchman for ages. Got kicked out for asking stuff that was too hard for him.

        I believe but I’ve got a different time perspective than most. We have had many many civilizations much like ours and when they fail we get a big reset. Exactly as that book describes it. The 2nd coming will be when we finally get the simple premise shown to us by those who went before. I’m not waiting to go to heaven or hell because I know we were given heaven to live in but had the choice to make it hell should we wish.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        There have been many civilizations before. ‘Nothing new under the Sun.’ But this is important because there are cats scheduled to appear on the world stage very soon who are going to have a heck of a story to tell, and some pretty damn convincing evidence to back up what they say.

        They will agree with some of what you said in your last post. And there are going to be many people who will be willing and happy to swallow the message. The ‘New Age’ community is going to get a hell of a shot in the arm soon, and the New-Agers are going to look like real prophets for a while.

        The New Testament is the fulfillment of the promise. The Old Testament is the promise. The Old Testament gives a reader a much fuller flavor of the nature and character of the Almighty. Imagine a pops who was a bit heavy-handed – a bit of a tyrant, but a good and powerful man who only cared for what was best for his children. This didn’t mean that he wouldn’t smack the $h!t of a kid who got out of line, though. But the corrections were not gratuitous. They were formative. Much the same is the universe we live in. Many lies have been told, but the biggest lies have yet to be rolled out. The big lies are on their way. Having a good understanding of the Old Testament (the New can only be understood in the light of the Old) is one of the only things that will give a man a fighting chance in the troublesome times ahead.

      • BEEF SUPREME — “cyberkahuna,” trying to understand why you’re so anti-religion, asked if you were non-denominational and you did not answer. But perhaps you slipped and inadvertently answered the question in another post when you said:

        “The Old Testament gives…a much fuller flavor of the nature and character of the Almighty.”

        What are you talking about, BS? The New Testament says much more by telling what the Almighty is like in Person. “Thomas, when you see me, you see the Father.”

        I’m guessing you’re a Freemason: fixated on the OT’s Solomon’s Temple (which Freemasons long to rebuild); despising all religions (especially the Catholic religion and the Papacy); and longing for the coming of your “messiah” (Antichrist.), or as you call him, “Yehoshua.”

        Freemasonry absorbs all Bible-based religions and mangles them into a secular false religion of hypocrisy and satanic oaths. That’s exactly what you appear to do in all of your stupid, rabidly hateful posts.

        I also noticed that you made no response to a post by “anonymous” who accused Judaic-Freemasonry for starting nearly every war from the French Revolution onward to the present day. Your silence on this issue speaks volumes.

        Careful you don’t wind up as a slab of “beef supreme” dog-meat road-kill in a red hot skillet roasting in hellfire for all eternity. Although that’s probably what you deserve for despising all that is holy, true and good.

        BS, there is no Freemasonic “lodge” in the sky. The eternal “lodge” is located near the center of the Earth in a sea of molten metal.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        Am I a ‘non-denominational’ Christian? No I am not.

        Am I a Freemason? No I am not. I am as anti-Freemasonic as I am anti-Church of Rome.

        The rebuilding of the Temple will be done at the beck-and-call of Messiah. When He says. How He says. Anything prior to or other than that event is initiated presumptuously. Before you ask, I am equally anti ALL occult and mystery school orders and organizations. I am anti Theosophy. I am anti New Age. I am anti ANY system of belief which either DENYS or seeks to ALTER the word of the Almighty delivered to us in the Holy Scriptures.

        Do you call Yehoshua Anti-Christ? Yehoshua IS anti-christ. ‘Christ’ is a pagan title applied to pagan deities. Mithra was ‘christ.’ Tammuz was ‘christ.’ The Hebrew Messiah has no connection with pagan titles, nor has He connection with pagan names. Do you think the Messiah from the New Testament has a Greek name? Do you really believe this lie? The Man born in Israel, of a Yehudi woman, has a Greek name? Jesus the Christ is a name which was applied to our Messiah by pagan men and institutions. By pagan, I mean Satanic. The name ‘Jesus’ is not a poor translation of the Hebrew name Yehoshua; it is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT name. This name ‘Jesus’ has no connection with our Savior. The most rudimentary of studies will bear out this assertion very easily. A translation of Messiah’s name would be ‘Joshua’ – exactly the name of the second leader of the Hebrews after Moses. This man ‘Joshua’ and Messiah had the same name. Their names are spelled identically. And yet on the one hand the translators give us ‘Joshua’, and on the other hand ‘Jesus’ (Jah-Zeus). Does this make sense to you?

        “That’s exactly what you appear to do in all of your stupid, rabidly hateful posts.”

        Care to offer me an example of what you mean by this charge? Should be pretty easy to find, if I’ve been as extreme as you say I have been.

        “I also noticed that you made no response to a post by “anonymous” who accused Judaic-Freemasonry for starting nearly every war from the French Revolution onward to the present day. Your silence on this issue speaks volumes.”

        I do not recall this question being posed to me, but I do not you doubt you that it has. Freemasonry appears ‘Judaic’ in nature only to the most casual of inspectors. If you do a little more digging, you may discover that the ‘Judaic’ angle is yet another layer of subterfuge. And before you ask, I am also anti-Judaism. Talmudic Judaism has no genuine connection with the Old Testament Commandments of the Almighty. Talmudic Judaism claims for itself the right to change the Law of YHWH, just as the Roman Church claims the same right.

        I am not a hateful man, Mr. Anonymous. If I have come across as such, then perhaps it is my own fault. As I made mention in an above post, I tend to have a poor reign on my passions and my tongue. And to reiterate, I am not against the laity of these ‘Churches’ and religions themselves. Almost all churchgoers and religious men and women seek after the Truth in their hearts. They have been led astray because they have not been diligent in their study of the Word and because they have been diverted into false beliefs by the leaders of their flocks. I bear them no ill will at all. I have hatred for the institutions and the upper-level management of the institutions responsible for knowingly leading these brothers and sisters into darkness.

        I hope this manages to clarify some of the charges you have laid against me. I will be happy to answer any more questions you might have to ask.

      • So do you just sit by yourself and study the bible and figure out these things then? Or do others study these things with you? again just curious.

      • Hannibal Lecter, M.D.

        I am a member of various study groups. I live in a very secular part of the US so there are not many believers of ANY version of the Scriptures nearby.

        I also try to have as much scriptural information at the ready when I am called to explain my beliefs and my understanding of the written Word.

        Two areas of focus I spend a great deal of time on are the Scripturally-Ordained Calendar (which IS NOT the lunar calendar being used by the rabbis in Jerusalem) and the writings of the Apostle Paul.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        I join groups which focus on Scripture research with particular attention to the words as they are written, rather than the various doctrines espoused by the denominations and the institutions.

      • Ok was just wondering. What do they call these groups? What if some folks may want to find one to check it out and stuff. How would they find one? You can’t very well look under the phone book or internet search for dudes and chicks that study the bible that’s not Christian in any way group. They must have some name.

      • BS, the more you speak, the deeper you sink into the cesspool of arrogance. What audacity to label all the blessed Church Doctors and Fathers as satanic deceivers, and elevate yourself as a paragon of truth and vision. Lucifer did the same thing and got ejected from Paradise forever.

        The Scripture study “groups” you join are denominations and institutions unto themselves because they form a cult that gathers around particular ideas and notions. If you were proud of these cults you admit to joining, then would be proud to name them, but you don’t because you are ashamed of them. Since you are not forthcoming about this, then I regard you as being unworthy to debate with.

        St. Thomas (citing certain passages from the New Testament) defined four qualities that saved souls will enjoy in Heaven when their souls are joined with their resurrected bodies. These qualities (or properties) are subtlety, clarity, impassibility and agility.

        In general, what they mean is this: subtlety (holiness); clarity (ineffable beauty); impassibility (freedom from pain); and agility (the ability to travel at the speed of thought.)

        Note the difference between being “impassible” and “impassable.” Two different words having two different meanings.

        The souls of the damned will possess the same qualities, but in reverse. Rather than being holy, they will be hatefully wicked. Rather than being beautiful, they will be horrid and ugly. Rather than being immune to pain, they will suffer incessantly. And rather than being agile, they will be sluggish and confined.

        Surely you and your cults study the Summa Theologica. Every thinking person on Earth knows God spoke to St. Thomas, the “Angelic Doctor.” But is God speaking to you and your cults? Not likely. Because nothing you’ve said thus far indicates such.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        cyberkahuna,

        I won’t name any sites on this board, as I am certain you would agree that to do so would be a gross violation of the peace of mind of the brothers and sisters who are members of the groups – and one in particular.

        If you are sincere and would like to communicate with me off-site about looking into and perhaps participating in such studies, I would be happy to consider sharing any and all relevant information with you. You can reach me at the following email address:

        [email protected]

        The name attached to that email is also a fictional character – Albert Swearengen. If you chose to contact me by email, I would probably drop all of the anonymity.

      • No thanks but thanks anyway I was just wondering in case anyone wanted to know how to go about learning about this.. I was just curious.

      • BEEF SUPREME

        I’m clearly not doing a very good job of explaining myself, Mr. Anonymous. I don’t consider all of the men known as ‘Church Fathers’ to be Satanic. I personally study some of their work. I study Matthew Henry. I read the work of the very early (especially the first century) ‘Christian’ authors.

        The email I listed in the above posting is for you to use as well if you like. I will never post the name of any group I respect on this open board. To do so would be the height of foolishness for reasons I am certain you would agree with. A great many of the posters on this board are ANTI all things I stand for, and are enemies of the Most High. I DO NOT imagine religious folks like you and cyberkahuna to be among His enemies.

        If you seek to demonstrate the validity of the tenets and doctrines of the Roman Church, then you will have to first show a reason for why the Church feels that it has the authority to over-rule the words and the instructions of our Father in Heaven, prominently displayed for us in the Holy Scriptures. The Church has never been able to do this. If personal revelation is claimed, as in the case of Thomas Aquinas, then there are specific instructions contained within the Scriptures for dealing with such claims according to His word.

        We must be specific: When you say ‘God’ – to whom are you referring. I would ask Aquinas the same thing.

        If you are interested in debate, in dialogue, or in dialectic – then I am your man. I am not interested in arguing about my opinion with you or with anyone else. Rather, I seek to show from the Scriptures themselves, verse by verse, why I have arrived at a certain understanding which has set me in direct opposition to ALL of the organized and institutionalized religions of this world. Opinions are useless to us in the face of such concepts. Please be advised that I would be interested in entertaining any evidence you would care to point to in connection with this matter. But I will not be asking anyone to accept my personal opinions on the subject and I am not much interested in the personal opinions of others in this regard. Our opinions are at best meaningless and at worst dangerous. It only matters what we can demonstrate from the Scriptures, as they were originally written.

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