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The Shooting Down of MH17: Five of the Most Bizarre Conspiracy Theories (Video)

Thursday, July 24, 2014 15:30
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The Shooting Down of MH17: Five of the Most Bizarre Conspiracy Theories

 

 

July 24 2014

 

 

What is your idea of the most bizarre consipracy theories? I like the attempt at Putins assinassion, yet agree with Mary that there are certainly more bizarre theories out there than listed in this article.

 

 

There are several versions of the phrase: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” While the sentiment is not entirely applicable to the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines’ flight MH17 over Ukraine – it seems impossible that there was no malice involved in bringing down a passenger plane carrying close to 300 people who had nothing to do with anyone’s conflict – it’s still worth holding in our thoughts as we try to get to grips with exactly what happened. Was this a cock-up or a conspiracy?

 

First, the cock-up. Russian-backed Ukrainian separatists gained access to a sophisticated Buk ground-to-air missile system, most likely via Russian channels. They were keen to shoot down Ukrainian planes. Unfortunately, they did not have the equipment or expertise to differentiate between civilian and military aircraft, and the result was the horrific death of MH17’s 298 innocent passengers.

 

This is still a crime, no doubt. But for some this is not enough. For various reasons, ranging from fear, to vanity, to hatred, people need an overarching theory. There must always be more to matters than meets the eye.

 

Here are five of the “alternative” explanations for the downing of MH17, in order of diminishing plausibility (not to suggest that any one of them is really plausible – but some are weirder than others). Read more or listen to the video below.

 

 

Are you prepared?

 

 

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  • Sheriff of Knottinghole

    how dare you dismiss conspiracies so lightly… do you really believe that TPTB have your best interests at heart? yer right… we don’t know for sure what really happened to both those Malaysian jets… but you can be very sure that the official stories are lies…….. bodies drained of blood and rotting would certainly explain MH370… would it not? And by the way, Zionists DO run this world and seem to be more than capable of such evil deeds…

  • YOU CALL THAT |INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM? Or any kind of INVESTIGATING for that matter.

    ALL you do is “Copy/Paste.
    COPY what someone else has taken the time to piece together , then STEAL it for your own Blog.
    COPY Msm “regurgitated garbage” parroted by Washington , then call it “News”.

    THEN YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN trying to steer people towards Christ through your stealing, Bias and Predjudice and NOT EVEN SEEKING God for the TRUTH but relying on MSM horse manure…
    Yet…you TURN OFF Christians by your PRIDE & idolatry of “trying to be the first to get the next blog with the most Views) Duedilligence.

    Your only interested in “Getting attention” and hyping your name Due Dilligence.
    So is Mary Greely guilty of the same thing.

    I REFUSE to look at her amateurish Videos that are nothing by Copy/Pasting.

    ON THE OTHER HAND. I happen to give a damn about those Voices that are MUFFLED and trying to reveal what THEY have encountered and I will do my darndest to get their voices heard!

    HERES MY EVIDENCE!!

    Since I dont have a blog Ill post all the EVIDENCE that I have uncovered here and everywhere
    else possible.

    Im angry at KIEV, the CIA and City of London whom no doubt were ALL
    behind this and pre-planned it all.

    Heres the first CLUE this was planned….. that many seem to have missed:

    July 17, 2014 was the anniversary date for the July 17, 1918 assassination of Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family by the Bolsheviks.
    I don’t subscribe to numerology but this date IS very significant to Russians and is a subliminal warning to Putin.

    HELLO???
    No wonder they were already to blame Russia right out of the gate. Its how these “Global Leaders play the game.Choosing the DATE of an event they know is deeply important to that country…and “sending a Message.

    Next…the World outside of UKRAINE had no idea this “Strangely timed” Announcement just 20 minutes BEFORE
    the crash had occurred. But a Ukranian Tweeted this:

    TWITTER MESSAGE
    https://twitter.com/ValLisitsa/status/489911513616879616/photo/1

    Valentina Lisitsa ‏@ValLisitsa Jul 17@homo_viator
    17:26 Ukrainian Defense declares “separatists now have weapons capable of downing high-flying planes”
    17:49 “plane down”.

    and to counter the Kiev version:

    Gleb Bazov ‏@gbazov Jul 17
    #ALL: BIG HOLE IN UKR NARRATIVE #MH17 flying at 10,000 metres.
    Militia can only shoot to 3,000 metres.
    Must be a Ukrainian jet, no other way

    then came the “Smoking Gun Tape”boasted by KIEV as “Proof” of the “Intercepted Conversations between
    Rebels and Russia.
    One small problem:
    A blogger in Russia STUMBLED apon this YT Video BEFORE it was announced to the
    world and it was able to get over 800 views BEFORE it was yanked.Problem was the TIME stamp for that
    YANKED Video was JULY 16TH!
    The Creation time of a Youtube Video is CACHED & it cannot be changed once created.
    That means the “so-called” “perfectly worded and detailed “”Conversation about a Civillian Airliner being shot down that beared the markings of “Malaysia Airlines”…was on a TAPE that was CREATED
    the day BEFORE it happened.

    Which means…..this was PRE-PLANNED by the CIA and by the CITY OF LONDON.

    An expert dissecting the tape not only discovered the Tape was in fact 3 SEGMENTS of 3 different TIME PERIODS all on one tape including of the “Malaysia Airliner” that hadnt even crashed yet, but also
    noted the CREATION date of JULY 16TH.

    Busted! Ukraine Caught Trying To ‘Frame Russia’ for Shooting Down Malaysia Flight MH17
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MrASx-RiM#t=19

    http://gmorder.livejournal.com/1113736.html
    http://rghost.net/private/56950510/78d787acfabcaf840cfa213e7221a060

    BOOM! Kiev Caught Plotting Crash of Malaysia Flight MH17 , Before It Happened!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c__Fm5liCo

    NEXT….Pay attention to these parts of Russias statement when producing THEIR Evidence:

    **Note** the HINT .
    In other words not coming right out & saying it but HINTING at it.

    Now WHY was it even NECCESSARY for Russia to include this information about the SU-25?

    “Also, Russian monitoring systems registered that there was a
    Ukrainian Air Force jet, probably Su-25, climbing and approaching
    the Malaysian Boeing.”
    “The Su-25 was 3-5 km away from the Malaysian plane. Su-25 is capable of climbing to the altitude of 10,000 meters for a short period of time.ITS STANDARD ARMAMENT INCLUDES R60 AIR TO AIR MISSILES,WHICH ARE
    CAPABLE OF LOCKING AND HITTING TARGETS FROM 12 KM and which are guaranteed to hit the target from the distance of 5 km.”

    THEN note this : The SECOND “Object”

    “At 17:21’35, with [the Boeing’s] velocity having dropped to 200
    kilometers per hour, a NEW MARK DETECTING new mark detecting an airborne object
    appears at the spot of the Boeing’s destruction. This NEW AIRBORNE OBJECT new
    airborne object was continuously detected for the duration of
    four minutes by the radar stations Ust-Donetsk and Buturinskaya.
    An air traffic controller requested the characteristics of the
    new airborne object, but was unable to get any readings on its
    parameters – most likely due to the fact that the new aircraft
    was not equipped with a secondary surveillance radar transponder,
    which is a distinctive feature of military aircraft,” said
    Makushev.
    “Detecting the new aircraft became possible as it started to
    ascend. Further changes in the airborne object’s coordinates
    suggest that it was hovering above the Boeing 777’s crash site,
    monitoring of the situation

    ***This aligns with the Following THREE eye-witness accounts:

    First Carlos the Kiev Air Traffic Controllers TWEETS whose Twitter account was ABRUPTLY SHUT DOWN even though hes been tweeting from his Tower since May lots of “Risky” Inside details about events in Ukraine since MAY & never had his Twitter shut down.

    Now hes in hiding & the Evil Forces immediately created a Propaganda campaign to demonize and nullify him to get the world to disregard him altogether.
    Even Fox Latino whom had his story up & Tweets briefly. suddenly had that page “Yanked”
    Here are some of those Tweets:

    10:21 – 17 de jul. De 2014
    Autoridades de kiev, intentan hacer que pueda parecer un ataque de los pro-rusos

    “Kiev Authorities, trying to make looks like an attack by pro-Russian”

    10:27 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    El avión B777 de Malaysia Airlines desapareció del radar, no hubo comunicación de ninguna anomalia, confirmado

    “The Malaysia Airlines B777 plane disappeared from the radar, there was no communication of any anomaly, confirmed”

    10:31 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    Kiev, tiene lo que buscaba, lo dije en los primeros tw, kiev es responsable @ActualidadRT

    “Kiev have what they wanted, I said in the first tw [Tweets], Kiev is responsible @ ActualidadRT”

    10:35 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    Un accidente muy normal no es, no están amenazando en la misma torre del aeropuerto de kiev,

    “An accident that is not quite normal, they are threatening us in the same tower of Kiev airport”

    10:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    Antes de que me quiten el tlf o me rompan la cabeza, derribado por Kiev

    “Before They remove my phone or they break my head, shot down by Kiev”

    11:13 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    Que hace personal extranjero con autoridades de kiev en la torre? Recopilando toda la información

    “What are doing foreigners with kiev authorities in the tower? Gathering all the information”

    11:48 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    El avión B 777 voló escoltado por 2 cazas de ukraine hasta minutos antes, de desaparecer de los radares,

    The B777 plane flew escorted by Ukraine jet fighter until 2 minutes before disappearing from the radar

    11:54 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    Sí las autoridades de kiev, quieren decir la verdad, esta recogido 2 cazas volaron muy cerca minutos antes , no lo derribo un caza

    “If kiev authorities want to tell the truth, It´s gathered, 2 jet fighters flew very close minutes before, wasn’t downed by a fighter”

    12:00 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    Nada más desaparecer el avión B 777 de Malaysia Airlines la autoridad militar de kiev nos informo del derribo, como lo sabían?

    “Malaysia Airlines B777 plane just disappeared and Kiev military authority informed us of the downing, How they knew?”

    12:00 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    A los 7:00 minutos se notificó el derribo, más tarde se tomó la torre nuestra con personal extranjero q siguen aquí

    “7:00 minutes after [plane dissapeared], the downing was notified, later our tower was taken with foreigner staff, they still here ”

    **MY PERSONAL NOTE How “Convenient to have “Foreigners” already in place just 7 Minutes after
    Report of Crash ready to take over ATC**)

    12:01 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    En los radares esta todo recogido, para los incrédulos, derribado por kiev, aquí lo sabemos y control aéreo militar también

    “all this is gathered in radars, to the unbelieving, shot down by kiev, here we know it and military air traffic control also”

    15:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    Los militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior conocían en cada momento lo que sucedió, .

    “The military under the orders of Interior Minister knew what happened all the time .”

    16:06 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    Mandos militares aquí (ATC) torre de control, confirman que el misil es del ejercito de ukraine,

    “Military commanders here (ATC) control tower, confirm that the missile is from the ukranian army,”

    16:09 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    La forma de tomar la torre de control minutos después sabiendo todo los detalles, rápido nos hizo pensar que habían sido ellos

    “Thw way the control tower was taken minutes after & knowing all the details, made ​​us think that they [made it]”
    16:10 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    La cara de los militares que llegaron más tarde diciendo pero que habéis echo, no dejo dudas

    “The face of the soldiers who came later saying [what you just did], no chance for doubts”

    16:12 – 17 de jul. de 2014
    Es tal la decadencia que los militares acompañados de extranjeros que llegaron primero nos llegaron a pedir que dijéramos su versión

    “Such is the decline that military who came first accompanied by foreigners came to us asking us to tell THEIR version”

    THAT WAS FROM KIEV.

    Now hear of TWO eye-witnesses in E.Ukraine near crash site
    whom didnt even KNOW of the Tweets from Carlos

    #7 – Eyewitness States Two Planes Following MH17, One Of the Craft Shot Down Boeing

    Video: Father of Eyewitness Tells of the Crash of Boeing MH17 Over Ukraine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPcbFJSGk7E

    Transcript of the Video

    Narrator: Who shot it down? Today it was shot down, on [July] 17th.

    Narrator: Continuing. The village of Grabovo. How was it? What did you son tell you?

    Father of Eyewitness: Well, they were sitting there, on a hill. And, from behind the clouds … two airplanes were flying … one of the came out from behind the clouds.
    (TWO AIRPLANES)

    Narrator: Military planes emerged?

    Father of Eyewitness: Well, he does not understand. Then, with one shot, they shot down the second.
    And that’s it.
    The second plane, he says – with one shot. There was one shot and that’s it.
    (THE SECOND PLANE)

    Narrator: And the one that was shot down was the civilian one? …

    Father of Eyewitness: And two … one fell down, he says, and the second too … I did not bring my phone here, so I can’t call him.(AND TWO. THE SECOND TOO)

    [in the background] Ah, he saw a jet fighter … Of course …

    Narrator: The village of Grabovo, in the Shakhtersk district. One the approaches to Grabovo, it fell. Keep looking for remains. Everything is burning. Aluminum has melted. All the casing.

    and another eye witness account. This now makes THREE
    ( 2 on the ground and Carlos the Air Traffic Controller whom tweeted there were 2 planes tailing)

    Transcript of the Eyewitness Phone CallI

    have a single sheet of paper that fell from the plane, with fresh blood – you can see it.
    Baggage also fell, further, in the area of the Petropavlovka settlement – there are fragments there.
    There is a group in VKontakte that already posted photos with pieces from the Boeing. Also, beyond Rassypnoye, near Terrikon, there are corpses. There were people there, and they saw it all.

    I saw, personally, that there were 3 explosions.
    The first, the second and the third.
    So, after the first explosions I went up on the roof and saw that a plane was falling – it was already almost at the ground.
    There was an explosion, a black cloud, and two parachutists were descending – one was descending on his parachute on the wing.
    The second was flying down very fast – like a stone. And that is what I saw.
    (THREE EXPLOSIONS)(TWO PARACHUTISTS)

    However, at that very same moment, a jet fighter was departing in the direction of Debaltsevo.
    It was over Rassypnoye and was flying toward Debaltsevo. How I understood it.
    (A FIGHTER JET WAS DEPARTING. THE OTHER FIGHTER (cause their were 2 Fighters) HAD
    EXPLODED along with the “OTHER Plane)

    then…there is this: WAS IT REALLY A MISSILE or rather AIR TO AIR???

    PROOF: SAM Never Shoot Down Boeing 772
    /war-and-conflict/2014/07/proof-sam-never-shoot-down-boeing-772-2453256.html

    Comment from an English/Russian blog

    Look at this, if it’s not a fake, the russians seem to be right…

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtL-VxSCIAIpt6o.png passive radar guided air to air missle would hit the nose where the radar array is.

    This is a very important piece of evidence of air to air attack, rather than a missile if seen in conjunction with the Russian military data of the Ukraine military aircraft “popping up” in front of the airliner just before it disappeared from radar.
    It also helps explain some other info released.

    If the Su-25 that popped up from low altitude in front of the airliner fired AA missiles, they would confront the airliner from the forward sector and damage would most likely be in the forward part of the aircraft.
    The cockpit looks like it was completely riddled, there is probably very little chance the pilots even had time to react, let alone send a distress message.

    From that angle of approach, it’s likely the airline pilots didn’t see the Su-25 attacking them and probably didn’t see the missiles(s) until maybe the last second before the explosion which killed them.
    I’ll bet the cockpit voice recorders wont have anything more from the pilots, at that last moment, than exclamation of shock.

    This could explain why the airliner slowed down the last couple of minutes.
    With the cockpit wrecked and the pilots dead, the throttle mechanism or something else may have been affected, which slowed down the airliner.
    It could of flew steady for a short while as it was breaking up.

    Targeting the front of the airliner had to be planned and was why the Su-25 attacked from the front and below, out of view from the airliner’s cockpit.
    They wanted to reduce the chance as much as possible that the pilots would be able to ID their attacker and get a message out, or even say something that could be recorded on the voice recorder.
    They wanted instant decapitation of the airliner.

    and another..

    Imagine and “X” where one stroke is the airliner path and the other the fighter.
    The attack came from below and left (at least in the case of the missile’s trajectory).
    The fighter climbed to it’s max altitude (app 10km) , fired the Air to Air, and then descended.
    The missile flew the remaining distance in altitude and detonated near the trailing edge of the LEFT
    wing tip (photo of crash wreckage shows slashes caused by rods discharged from A to A which rake toward the cockpit) and the left side of the cockpit looking like swiss cheese.
    SHeared the wing off and the airliner descended essentailly in one piece till impact.

    The 3-D simulation on Russian TV made truly sensational case..pity it is not on youtube (that I know of).
    We saw It was on RssianTVClub.com news programming last night…very disturbing..
    . along with expert testimony that a BUK would have turned the airliner into confetti…
    no large peices in close proximity (small debris field) which is what the crash site looks like from
    published photos.
    They’d still be collecting bits of bodies from Donesk to Rostow if a BUK hit it…

    **NOTE*** The LEFT WING was where the RADIO TRANSPONDER was and that is where there is a SMALL Shearing on the TOP of the Wing.
    How does a MISSILE make a perfect shear on the TOP of a Wing if its coming from the Ground??

    ***NOTE…None of the above info is mentioned ANYWHERE in Mainstream Media and even more details
    targeting KIEV as the culprit will come forth. Wait and see….

    HOPEFULLY THIS INFO WILL OPEN SOME EYES***

  • OH YEAH and NOTE the newest ARTICLE on BIN that puts YOURS in the Trash Bin and maybe just maybe might humble you!

    All Evidence Points at Kiev Illigitimate Government in Shooting Down MH17

    /politics/2014/07/all-evidence-points-at-kiev-illigitimate-government-in-shooting-down-mh17-2639910.html

    **PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE VIDEO WITHIN THAT article ,that CNN and “The Guardian” tried to use as “Proof” cause that what the US Government parroted out***

    The creator of THIS Video totally proved KIEV was behind that Video parroted by MSM & the US STATE DEPARTMENT!

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