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TNT call notes 25-Aug-2014
Monday, August 25, 2014 14:47
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TNT call notes 25-Aug-2014
Tony: Good morning, TNT. It is Monday, August 25, 2014. DC is not with us – he is sick. It’s Monday morning, and as Pam said, DC is really sick or he’s trying to duck this conversation this morning. We were going to wait on this call so that he could feel better and get more information, but every time I talked to him, DC sounded worse. Since there is no filter today, and nobody has told me what they do or not want us to say today, it’s back to just me!
A lot of things happened over the weekend. I was going to send out some things, but I got so caught up in things this morning. I want to read a text I got on Friday: “Hey, Tony, great call. I have a new client who just got 400K in his Iraqi bank account that he wants to spend on a house in Sacramento. How is that for confirmation of your call?” And it came after Friday’s call… and I almost sent it out to you guys as an unsolicited response to our call. I’ve known this guy for years, and it went with what other people were saying.
Then we got a news article Friday evening saying they were going international. Then on Saturday, there was news that the new PM would be introducing the government at a news broadcast this morning at 9am Iraqi time this morning. We have known who they are for days, but they were going to introduce them to the world. Sunday evening we got the info that it was all published in the Gazette. Then this morning, he did do a speech, and it was like Vantage Point, where eight different people saw the same event from different angles, and why people see different things when they are looking at the same thing. That’s what happened with the speech this morning. He did it, and we started getting texts from around the world, with people telling us that was the speech and the information. Some said he didn’t name them all, and others said it was a teaser to get ready for the real introduction. Others said that was the speech and we are now ready to go. They are all intel people and they each got something different, according to their individual vantage point. They do know it happened, even if they didn’t hear what they wanted to hear. We thought it was great!
Right now there is another public announcement scheduled for Wednesday morning where they say they will introduce it. They also said Parliament is not sitting again until 2. September, but Parliament is sitting now, attempting to finish up and formalize things. Those are the minor ministers; all the key ministers that we are concerned with are all in place, we know who they are, and they said there was a completed GOI over the weekend. Why would they broadcast to the country that they would do that, and then not do it? In fact, Abadi DID do something, so why are they saying he’ll be doing it again on Wednesday “in more detail”. That doesn’t make sense, because we know celebrations that were scheduled last week for this week are still on the schedule, at the same time they were scheduled for before.
So it’s kind of confusing for a lot of people, what was done and what wasn’t done, and why they are hiding the facts that are going on. The biggest reason is usually security, because people over there definitely know that their cards are international. People here are now able to see that money has been placed in their accounts in Iraq, and they can see what rate as well. By their standards, that 400,000 is a whole lot of money!
What do we know over here? Our bank people went to work over the weekend. This morning all bank people who are security for the RV itself are in place – part-time, full-time, all of them. Maybe something will happen today, who knows?
[Pause while Tony reads something.] I was just getting information from Iraq, and I will try and be diplomatic about it and work with everyone on all sides. This week could still be a great week for all of us.
I’ll just answer some questions now. I told you that everything that was supposed to happen over there did happen, and people are in place over here. It was really quiet this weekend, although there was a lot of stuff on the boards. I didn’t comment on a lot of that because… people were posting things on the boards and we didn’t comment because when we do that, they try to blame us for stopping it. Nothing was supposed to happen on Friday or Saturday, and now everything is showing up as we were told it would. We just need to see if it will go all the way through, or be post posed.
562: I’m fantastic! In reference to 2. September and the ‘bail-in’, is this possibly relevant to the delay we’re experiencing now? And is that a good thing for us?
Tony: Why would we have to wait for that?
Caller: I really don’t’ understand it, but on the blogs they said that might be part of the delay. I hoped you might have an idea if it’s relevant.
Tony: I try to talk to people and ask questions so that people can think out things when there are questions in the future. If I gave you a million dollars today, and the banking rules changed on 2. September, what difference would it make? You would still have your money invested somewhere they can get at it. So why would we need to wait? There is no reason to say we cannot do the RV until this day. That doesn’t make sense.
Caller: What you just said makes total sense.
Tony: I think people are just looking for excuses. I heard someone say over the weekend that Bush, Clinton AND Obama are getting together to stop us having this. That’s worse than being a foolish idiot, or “fidiot”.
352 caller: Are you telling us that the people in our government or the UST heard a different story announced?
Tony: We have people watching the television, reading the script, people who explained what happened, and yes, they had a different version of what happened. I don’t say that stopped it, just that people see different things.
Caller: You said that once the GOI as seated, there should be nothing holding us back.
Tony: Yes, the people of Iraq were told their currency would be revalued, and their GOI would be announced today. Some are saying that this is a teaser; others are saying this IS the announcement; others are saying it’s done – it’s in the Gazette.
Caller: All those cashed out in December and January, do they have clear deposits now that the Iraqi people have received the new rate.
Tony: I don’t know – some seem to have SKRs, and some seem to have money in their accounts.
Caller: We are at the tail end, I guess.
Tony: Yes, they are running out of reasons. It’s getting to the point where they will have to say, “we’re not giving you this money until we’re good and ready”, and then things will really hit the fan. I don’t know that it will take until Wednesday. I am giving you a lot of information, but you have to think about it.
Next caller: I’m calling from the mountains of Pennsytucky – that’s a good excuse for anything we do. That and brain damage work great! I guess I understand that the only way the RV is international at this time is via the Qi cards. Is that correct? And the Qi cards are tied into the international Visa system, right? So if an Iraqi citizen came here to the US to visit family, they could purchase whatever using their Qi card, and the in-country rate loaded on their cards would be accepted at the store here, right?
Tony: We had a guy here, in-country, with his card, and he could not use it. His card would not work. Two weeks ago, when they went international, his father told him to come home, and he is able to use his card in Jordan and Germany. So we know it works there. As of Friday, somebody right here has said that his money is in his account, he can use his card, and he wants to buy a house here.
Caller: For the Visa system to work, there has to be coordination between the banks to authorize the Qi card expense. The person with $400,000 who wants to buy a house, let’s say he spends $300,000 and buys the house. Are you saying that the Visa system would go all the way back to the CBI and wire it to the real estate broker’s account. So somewhere in the US, that transaction has to be honored.
Tony: If Visa has activated that international rate, they had to honor it… but they did that back in February. Now it can be used internationally, including in the US. A month ago, they were letting them use it on ebay, here in the country. They could be releasing and authorizing it in different parts of the system, and in different countries. I do know that their cards are international.
Caller: It’s my personal opinion that the US is holding this thing up. That’s just my opinion, and I could be wrong. If that is true, how can the US hold up an entire GCR that is supposed to be based on the RV being international, and that is supposed to help us and so many other countries. How does the US have that much power?! This whole process seems to be open-ended – that is, there is not an ultimate authority that at some point can say “enough is enough, bang, there it is”. So long as it’s open-ended the various players can use whatever stall tactics they can make up to delay this…
Tony: First, countries all around the world have been owing the US for many years. We still influence a lot of countries, and they want us to do things in the future, and we use all that as leverage to get things done or not. If there is a committee and everyone has a veto power, then you only have to get (say) three on your side and not have the majority of 8 out of 10 to block you. If you keep coming up with reasons, and you have two people who are always on your side, then those wanting to push this through have to work on those two people and get them detached from the impediments. At some point, even those people realize that they are looking like an idiot to the rest of the world, and then that committee will have the majority, but those two people have to deal with the aftermath. Both sides can bluff, like in poker, but until someone actually says, “darned if we do, darned if we don’t, this needs to go forward!” There is not perfect time or situation – it has to be done and they can deal with the fallout afterwards. That’s what we are waiting for, that moment when the eight say “enough is enough – you are hurting me, too, and I cannot take that.” I think we are very close to that. Over there the announcements are forcing people to make a decision.
Caller: then that will get us out of the SNAFU and get us back to where we want to be, which is a win-win for dinarians, based on what we intend to do for our fellow citizens; they will win, politically, and the banks will make out well with 2% fees. If the Congress want this to happen so that the Democrats can have some good news before the mid-terms elections. Everyone will win if they get off their upholstered backsides!
Tony: Why wouldn’t they want the numbers to be great right now? Maybe some people don’t those numbers to be great right now, because they want to use them later, at another political time. But I don’t want to get into the politics of it.
Caller: [appreciation] Go RV!
954 caller: Listening to what you say, I have a feeling that this might not be as imminent as we all hope…
Tony: I think your feeling is incorrect. This could happen at any moment. Confusion is out there for a reason. We are hearing a bunch of stuff you guys did over the weekend for a reason. I know that this could happen at any moment. The process is still being changed. They are still scheduling additional events. They are no longer calling him PM-designate, but the PM, period. Things are definitely happening and changing the background. There is nothing preventing this from happening. The full GOI is in the Gazette, and now it’s a timing thing.
Caller: So this is imminent in the next couple of days?
Tony: Don’t use that word! It could well happen this week.
Caller: I purchased some Zims, in 50 tril and 100 tril packages. I have misplaced a full pack of 100 tril notes. When I got to cash in and I don’t have that pack, will I be penalized in some way?
Tony: You will be penalized financially! You’ll have lost a whole lot of money! You’ll see. So you misplaced it. You’ll go to the bank, do your exchange, and then you are going to take every item in your house outside until you find it! When you come back from that bank, you will find it!
Caller: Is there anything governmental for not turning in a currency under my name?
Tony: They won’t do anything – they won’t care! But you will have a great incentive for finding that money. When you start packing up to move to your new house, you’ll find it.
617 caller: Can you tell us who actually has control of this right now?
Tony: I can tell you the IMF and BIS have some control, but they are still trying to do things in a cooperative way, if they can. At some point, they will just have to do it. There is a plan for that, if it comes down to it, with a time and everybody’s aware of it. So it’s just a matter of time, one way or the other. The positive attitude is all over the place. Iraq has a new PM and an inclusive government, making laws that apply to everybody. Things are changing. They don’t change overnight, but there is a change occurring. The PM is saying the right things to the right people that they will be part of it. We are hearing both sides now. Just in this little time frame, it looks like a different government at work. The excuses of the last four years are no longer valid. People did get killed over there, and I don’t want to downplay that, but we got 52 people shot in Chicago, but that didn’t even make the news. It didn’t shut down the government of Chicago. Iraq knows they have to create a new country. The truth is this should have gone on Friday but they couldn’t make that announcement when 70 people had just been killed. They were too many people upset in Parliament that day. They are hunting them down, and those are the things that are occurring.
Caller: If we take the contract rate and sign an NDA, there are people who already know where my money is coming from, do I just say “I cannot talk about that”. Is it the rate they are concerned with or what?
Tony: Just say, “That is in the past and I don’t discuss that any more.” Something like 250K know that I have dinar! Right now you have the freedom to say whatever you want to say, but after you sign the NDA, that’s when it goes into effect.
Caller: I told a lot of people about it and they thought I was crazy…
Tony: So when they ask you how you can afford it, you get to say, “That’s what crazy people do!”
406 caller: What is going on with the dong?
Tony: The dong is waiting for the dinar.
Caller: Do you expect to see this before the end of the month?
Tony: Yes, I do – every possibility that it should, no reason that it shouldn’t. Most people want this done.
Caller: I’ve been rich before, I’m not rich now, but I’m willing to take on the challenge!
Tony: You didn’t learn the first time around?!
936 caller: I sure wish this thing would be like popcorn and start popping! With all these excuses going around, do you think we (the dinarians) might be the main reason they don’t want to let this go?
Tony: Some people are concerned what we would do with it, but there are other issues out there, like security, tracking and bad people with too much money, but there is a big issue on how this will affect our economy and our future if the numbers aren’t done right. Those are things that should have been sorted out a long time ago, and now maybe they are putting it off until those are put in place.
Caller: That’s what you have discussed for the last six months, that things are in place and everything is ready…
Tony: Everything IS ready, guys. I’m trying to figure out how to tell you. I sit around and talk to people. You know that every dog has its day, and we became that. Nobody wants to give up that position, not the US nor Maliki. So it would be great for everyone else, but not so great for the US. There are things going on with the IMF and the five new mini-IMFs. When that happens, the dollars purpose around the world will change, and then the dollars’ value will change. It has to go down a bit so that everyone else can rise, and there has to be a plan so that we can rise again. There is a lot of economics involved here, and even though it was thought out ten years ago, the same people are now involved now. With Basel III as well, the markets are all over the place and they are dealing with a lot of issues. If they say the dollars are going to drop, we cannot argue with that, because we will have a lot of dollars, but 350 million people will not. It’s not just about us. When the timing is right and then someone comes in with a political agenda, that’s when we get upset. I don’t want to have that much influence out on the streets. We will definitely have some influence, and those are legitimate concerns here in the US.
Caller: How much longer do you think this bubble can last when everyone else is ready and the US is still holding back?
Tony: That’s what I’m saying with Iraq making more and more announcements. They have a new government, a new direction, and unless they want to reverse all that, this has to go through soon.
Caller: What would be the repercussions if every other country said GO, regardless of the US? Would we just have the international rates and no contract rates?
Tony: Many think that if that happens, the US will go to their plan B. But they might just remove the tanks, the food, or replace sanctions. This is negotiations at the highest level, and they don’t pay the price, the ordinary people in those countries pay the price. They (the US) will keep doing what they are doing until they can’t do it any longer. I know Plan A and Plan B, but I’m not going to say what those are. We are close to the end; Iraq is showing it in the announcements they are making.
Caller: Rupiah will go in the first basket also?
Tony: Yes, and I haven’t heard that the rate has changed.
407 caller: [appreciation] At one point, there were illegal aliens that have been in the US for six months or longer, can they get the contract rate?
Tony: So long as they are documented and in the country for six months, they can exchange, that’s our understanding.
Caller: Will the caps be told to us on the call you’ll be making after the RV goes? Will you be giving us that information?
Tony: I think we should get it, don’t know that we will get it because it would be defeating the purpose of the caps.
Caller: I have found a way around it, but when you call the bank and say how much you have, and that runs up against a cap you don’t know about … will you have trouble because your numbers are not what you said on the phone?
Tony: I don’t think so. They still want the money you bought with you. They just want to get you through so that they can get to the next one. You can handle the rest with your private banker or wealth manager. The first appointment is just someone like you or me that wants to get you through that cattle chute.
Caller: Are we still looking at going at the same time as the groups?
Tony: I think everyone on this call will all go at the same time, more or less. They are just expecting those other 4-5 million people not to get the word as promptly. They even told us to get ours done before hollering to the heavens. I think you should take care of you first, because those others haven’t cared enough to be on the calls or on the internet. I wouldn’t be that concerned with them.
Caller: At one point, there was ONE bank handling the contract rates. Now will all the big banks be offering the contract rates?
Tony: They keep changing it, so we don’t really know. There are a couple of different scenarios and we don’t know which ones will work. The banks were upset that one bank was getting it all, so they had to make some changes.
585 caller: Is part of the problem that there was a different administration and party in charge when this started out, and now the current administration and party have different ideas on what we should be doing?
Tony: Yes, there were a lot of changes implemented along the way that has dragged this out even further. We weren’t even supposed to know about this RV. It was supposed to be in, out and done with before we knew it even happened.
Caller: If so, couldn’t they have stopped it if they really wanted to?
Tony: You mean writing a law so that anyone who is not a congressman or their family cannot have this currency? I don’t think they realized this many people would be doing this. If this was the same way as Kuwait, hardly anyone exchange then. So why would they write a law when they didn’t expect so many people would buy the currency. I am not saying the administration would go either way, because who would have thought this would even happen?
Caller: Well, they knew that they’d have to rebuild the country, with federal contracts using dollars, so they knew, and their employees knew, and so on.
Tony: Nobody thought it would take ten years and this many people would find out about it. They wrote the law so that we could invest in Iraq like any Iraqi citizens could. They included us and Fortune 500 companies… so the numbers actually worked out to our advantage. Also, unless someone goes and learns, then it doesn’t make sense!
Caller: About four years ago, the banks stopped selling it, when they realized the RV wouldn’t happen any time soon, and they had to protect themselves.
Tony: The banks didn’t think this would happen at all, and they were right, and that is why we are here today. They didn’t want to be blamed for it.
270 caller: Just wanted to say hello; my questions have been answered.
870 caller: The first day we do in to exchange, do you know how much of a certified check we can make to take to a brokerage firm?
Tony: I don’t think there is a limit. They don’t mind checks, they don’t want you to use cash. If you WIRE over half a million in the first 30 days, there could be an issue.
Caller: Since so many have gone before us, will we need to rush more when this does happen, or will we have a little bit of time to think things through and still get the contract rate?
Tony: I’m constantly telling people to be aware of ‘who moved my cheese’ because it will move. It’s a global event, it will be in the news, and all the hedge funds seeing this country come back to life, they will immediately go into that, and you know what the effect of that is going to be.
Caller: We are ready, I just want to hear what the package will be before running to the bank, with the NDA and all the rest.
Tony: I think that is a good idea, so that people have the information that they need. Some will rush in, but I don’t think you will lose that much by not being the first mouse. If you want to help me, tell Pam to leave me alone and stop calling me a fidiot!
Caller: Pam, you are wonderful, come out from under the bus, don’t call Tony an idiot!
281 caller: I’m tired of the word ‘wait’ so I want to get my money, buy all dictionaries and delete that word! I’m holding on here like everyone else. I was just wondering if everyone else does go and the US doesn’t decide to go, I wondered if we would still be able to cash in at the international rate. You already answered that. I guess we just have to hold on because we don’t have any influence.
Tony: You can go outside the country whenever you want to, so you can cross the border, set up your account, and you would still have it coming to you.
Caller: In every rumor there is a little bit of truth, and we just want to know when they are going to release it! It’s bizarre that we dinarians are the last to exchange! It upsets us that we have to wait when they have all their money in the bank, and we are the last. We have a lot we want to do for our families, too!
Tony: I agree with you, and we all want to get paid. That is why we all came together to make sure we do get paid in a fair way. If it were just about us, making sure we didn’t get paid, we would have a totally different reaction to what we have today. But so long as there is another issue, we don’t want to sacrifice the rest of our citizens or the Iraqi citizens just to get our money. That’s not what we want. We want them to fix this so that we can all enjoy it together.
Caller: We will get paid for the dinar that we hold, is that correct?
Tony: Yes. That’s what keeps me going every day. I know the end is coming, and that’s why I tell you not to sell your dinar. I know that is my future! I’m not worried about my past, and I know that IS my future.
Caller: I am taking that word out of the dictionary, because I don’t want to hear “wait” ever again!
772 caller: it says something as a group that we have the tenacity to hold on for this exchange. This could be a calling for something greater than just currency. Hopefully people will see that and put forth a better foot than spending money just for their own whims and desires. Hopefully they will think of those who don’t have this chance, and think of what they can do for our country and our fellow man. [more of the same]
Tony: We’ve been discussing these things for years, of how to put your money to work, and the first day of creating a legacy for you and your family for years to come. It’s also a Global Currency Reset – it could be a global humanitarian reset as well. So many people will be helping other people, about paying it forward and giving other people ideas of how to use this money. It’s not all about the money, and this time has been put to use for growing, learning and experiencing all that. We are on that course.
Caller: It will also be a venue for us to partner up, people in our areas that we might not even know about, so we can do more than we could as individuals.
Tony: That’s what the events are about to meet each other and have new adventures.
Caller: I do have a concern about caps on any of the currencies. The main currencies are the dinar and dong, of course, and we’d welcome any help in those areas.
Tony: I’ll tell you what I know. DC is not here, and they brought him in to be my baby-sitter (Pam says my handler). There is only one currency I know of that had a cap last year. When I started talking about that, everyone got in an uproar, so I’m not giving out the numbers. I didn’t want to discourage anyone from buying it, so just leave it alone. If you have enough to reach the cap, you’ll know what to do about it. Only recently have I heard a rumor of extending that to another currency, and I don’t talk about that.
Caller: The information in the last two years has been invaluable, more than any college courses I have ever had. I hope we carry it into other areas of our lives.
Tony: We’ve all grown, met different people and looked a different aspects of global events, economies, and just different people and what to look for in business partners and just people to be with. Look at the five people you spend the most time with; that is who you are, because those are the traits that you share. Look at that in the future when you go to do business. Higher, more successful people hang around with people who are smarter than them. If you’re the dumbest one in the crowd, you’re in the right place – then you will learn! That’s usually me, in any given group. Meanwhile, don’t do things you shouldn’t do; don’t make commitments when you don’t know what they are about, just because they sound good.
Caller: The unction in your spirit is what will guide you.
423 caller: [appreciation] You say the first mouse gets the trap, the second mouse gets the cheese, and the third one gets the cheese factory. But you also say that we should get in the first day or so if we can, so wouldn’t that be the trap?
Tony: Here’s my dilemma: for years I explained exactly what you are asking. I’ve said, “don’t be that first mouse” and there is a timeframe for that. If I explain it all over again, it may be contrary to what they want to happen, create a bottleneck, and force them to change their whole plan based on that scenario. There are a lot of new people here that don’t understand it, and that first mouse analogy will affect them greatly. They do want to get us dinarians through. That whole scenario only applies to those taking the international rates. If you are taking contract rates, the situation is totally different. I hope we dinarians in the first three days are going for contract rates.
I don’t know what their scenario is. I hope we’ll have the opportunity to answer as many of your questions as possible. If they don’t have us doing the educational calls and I am not under NDA, there will be a whole lot of conversations!
Caller: This is a lot of money we’re looking at, and we all have that fear of loss, like in MLM. We don’t’ want to wait because if they flip the switch and there are some crazy people out there, will they switch it off again?
Tony: We have seen that happen. However, when Iraq announces it is international, that will be permanent and we don’t have to worry about that.
Caller: There will be some crazy people out there and hope that they don’t wreck it for the rest of us. Do you think we might not get through if everyone calls the 800 numbers?
Tony: There are a number of call centers, and they want to do a slower rollout so that this doesn’t happen. They do want us to get through before those five million hear about it.
Caller: Some gurus say you won’t need to call the 800 numbers, just go to your bank.
Tony: That doesn’t make sense to me, having people mob the bank and have people thinking there is a run on the bank. I don’t think that makes sense. Even for those you have given gifts to, each person should make an appointment with the 800 numbers.
Ray: We have seven minutes to push us into the top of the hour. We could call that caller back who wants to get you out from under the bus, Pam.
Pam: That caller didn’t even know what she wanted to say, she just said, “Don’t throw Pam under the bus!” She made up her own word, but we understood.
Ray: continue to enjoy this Marvelous Monday as we move over into Terrific Tuesday. The day is still young…
Pam: Please don’t call people idiots. Have a great day; be kind to each other!
Tony: It was a promising weekend, on Friday we were all looking forward to some great things, and all those things happened with the exception of sending you to the bank today. Many believe that all that was required was the announcement made at 9.30am in Iraq, and parliament then met again. We know this can go at any moment. We know celebrations were scheduled, and the schedule has not changed! Anything could happen at a moment’s notice. I’m happy, most people are happy. There are some who are not happy or ready for this to happen, but we’re hoping that all those things can be accomplished after the fact. We do know it’s going to happen and you will reap the rewards. We are just that close. At the end of the wait is the beginning of our future, the numbers are wonderful and we’ll just go ahead with that. I don’t think it will go to the end of the month. Hopefully the next call will be THE call and we can move on.
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