Online:
Visits:
Stories:
Profile image
By The Daily Sheeple
Contributor profile | More stories
Story Views

Now:
Last Hour:
Last 24 Hours:
Total:

Anti-Vaccination – Irrational Or Something Else?

Friday, October 3, 2014 17:46
% of readers think this story is Fact. Add your two cents.

(Before It's News)

measles vaccines

An OpEd from the WSJ and then a series of letters went on to raise hell about the anti-vaccination movement in California and elsewhere.

Some of the explanation may be reasonable – modern Americans, for example, have never seen polio and the suffering it causes. Therefore the claims are, to most Americans, abstract - they’ve never seen the price.

But there’s another undercurrent here that is part and parcel of this story, and one that nobody wants to talk about. That’s the conflation between vaccinations that have little or no downside risk compared to the upside benefit, and for which the protected event is one that has no connection to personal choice, and ones that either violate that premise or where the protection is conferred against chosen behavior.

There are places where, if you travel, you’re either strongly recommended to or required as a condition of your visa to have received certain vaccinations. Why not enforce all of those here in America? That’s easy – there is no such thing as a drug without risk, and if the benefit is small enough (that is, the risk of exposure is small enough) then the balance is not strongly toward the “you should get this” side.

Then there are those vaccinations such as Gardisil that are of dubious value and bear only on consensual conduct.  Gardisil allegedly protects against HPV, which in women can cause cervical cancer (men don’t have a cervix, of course.) However, to be sexually exposed you must (of course) have sex, and second the vaccine does not provide anywhere close to complete protection. That in turn may lead you to engage in more risky behavior than you might otherwise, and actually wind up working backwards for that reason. And there are direct risks – specifically, there is a small but present risk of Guillain-Barre syndrome, an auto-immune disorder that is extremely nasty (it can kill, by the way) and, while rare, has as one of its possible triggering events the administration of this vaccine.

Texas tried to force administration of Gardisil upon school children and there are allegations that improper conflicts of interest and financial ties were behind the attempt. This sort of incident does not help in the general case, and can lead people to conclude that the entire process is corrupt. To the extent that this results in parents refusing other vaccinations, such as MMR, it’s outrageous – but the blame for that should be laid at the feet of people like Governor Perry!

Then there is the “herd immunity” argument – that because some kids (and adults) are unable, for medical reasons, to take vaccines you owe them a duty to do so. That’s utter nonsense. You owe nobody any such duty, period. That those people are the unfortunate victims of a disease such as cancer that renders them unable to seek protection on their own from a virulent thing in the common environment doesn’t obligate you to take risk on their behalf. Your risk should be taken on your behalf, and it’s important that we stop trying to play this damned nanny game; if you can’t make the argument for vaccination on the merits of your health (as the one taking the needle stick) then the argument has failed in its essence.

Indeed, the essence of that argument, if you wish to follow it, comes directly with a demand to close the border immediately and deport all illegal immigrants instantly on detection. Why? Because very few if any have all of the vaccinations that are common in America. You can talk to me about “my” duty (or that of my offspring) with regards to you (as opposed to the direct benefit to her) when the border is closed and every single illegal is immediately deported without delay, as they form a much higher transmission risk vector than anyone in America ever will be simply because we have fewer reservoirs of these diseases in our population in the first place.

Finally, there is another part of this debate that nobody wants to have, but we all should: Scientific fraud is almost never punished in any meaningful way.

As just one example the so-called study that allegedly tied thimersol in vaccines to autism was found to be bogus and was retracted.  The authors faced no consequence of materiality. The climate-scare people who intentionally doctored tree-ring data by selecting the side of the tree they took their bores from so as to show “higher temperatures” (when the other sides showed no such thing – it was entirely natural variability) faced no material consequence for their intentional deception. Those who have falsified data in medical trials have never, to my knowledge, been indicted for what amounts to outright fraud upon the public, so-called “scientists” that rig various other experiments (remember the “exploding fuel tank” tests that were in fact conducted with a lit firework-style device on the outside of the tank?) don’t go to jail and, for that matter, neither does anyone else involved in these fiascoes.

Remember, we’re talking about someone’s kid here. The damage to scientific credibility over the years has been immense, and nowhere is it more-evident than in the medical realm. Cholesterol and fat in the diet .vs. eating lots of fast carbohydrates, anyone?

If we’re going to have an honest debate on this topic we need to cut the crap across the board. All vaccines are not so simple as to say “You should (or must) have them all.” There are those that clearly fall into this category, such as MMR and Polio; the personal consequences (to the person who doesn’t have them) are severe if the disease is contracted, and the risks are small.

But beyond those there are many others where the argument is far less-clear. Chicken pox and Gardisil are two of them in this category, with the latter being of particular concern and worthy of ridicule as a “required” vaccination because the route of exposure to the allegedly-protected-against disease is found only in either consensual sexual conduct or sexual assault (a felony.) Neither of those is anywhere close to completely effective in providing protection either; for most of the other common vaccines such as MMR and Polio the conferred protection is very close to 100%.

Parents and others deserve honest information and this begins with criminal prosecution for cooked data presented to sway public policy as the open and notorious fraud that it is; we cannot expect people to behave simply “as demanded” when the record shows that many of those demands are in fact driven by corruption rather than scientific reality.

Delivered by The Daily Sheeple


Contributed by Karl Denninger of Market Ticker.

Karl Denninger - LeverageKarl Denninger is the author of Leverage: How Cheap Money Will Destroy the World. You can follow his daily commentary on capital markets at The Market Ticker and his weekly Ticker Guy Blog Talk Radio broadcasts.



Source:

Report abuse

Comments

Your Comments
Question   Razz  Sad   Evil  Exclaim  Smile  Redface  Biggrin  Surprised  Eek   Confused   Cool  LOL   Mad   Twisted  Rolleyes   Wink  Idea  Arrow  Neutral  Cry   Mr. Green

Total 6 comments
  • hmm lets see, people dropping dead after being vaccinated.. um its NOT irrational! the epitome of sanity actually!

  • We haven’t seen polio, because our water isn’t contaminated with feces, which is how polio spreads.

    And because we’re not using the live virus vaccine that causes it.

    And when we DO see polio, caused by vaccinations, they call it something ELSE instead of polio. As in India right now.

    We’ve seen outbreaks of measles and pertussis in vaccinated populations.

    We’ve seen cerebral hemorrhage and autism and SIDS increasing as the numbers of vaccinations increase.

    And we’ve seen parents, foster parents, and teenage babysitters sent to prison for something they didn’t do. No neck injury means the cerebral hemorrhage was NOT caused by shaking.

    And cerebral hemorrhage is a known result of vaccines, in animals and in people.

    The government — and literature – acknowledge vaccines cause “symptoms of autism,” and that’s what autism is, a collection of symptoms.

    We’ve seen neurological disease and death from HPV vaccine, which is the most useless vaccine ever invented.

  • I’ve had all my mandatory vaccinations. It’s flu shots I won’t get. It’s been almost 30 years since i last had one, and I’ve not been sick with a flu but 3 or 4 times in all those years.

  • Mike Adams
    NaturalNews
    December 10, 2012

    Modern children are being poisoned like never before in the history of human civilization. No wonder the rate of autism in America has skyrocketed to 1 in 88 children over the last few decades, putting autism squarely in the “epidemic” category.

    But don’t expect any CDC action on this epidemic. The CDC knows full well why autism rates are exploding across America, but instead of admitting the truth, the CDC is running a cover story to protect the corporate interests of the real culprits: the medical corporations poisoning children for profit (see below).

    It’s not just medical companies that are poisoning our children, by the way: They’re also being poisoned in other insidious ways that suppress free thinking, assault good health and crush children’s souls.

    Here’s my list of the ten worst ways in which our children are being poisoned right now.

    #1) Multiple vaccinations that inject mercury, aluminum, MSG and formaldehyde into children

    It is an admitted fact that today’s vaccines given to children are intentionally formulated with mercury, aluminum, MSG and formaldehyde, all of which is insanely injected into the body of infants and children.

    This is openly admitted by the CDC itself, which has emerged as a criminal front group for the vaccine industry. Rather than trying to determine why vaccines are causing so much autism, the CDC tries to hide the evidence, delay the hearings, and deploy smoke and mirrors to protect the criminally-operated vaccine industry where nearly every single vaccine manufacturer operating today has been found guilty of multiple felony crimes.

  • yawn… this article is from the daily sheeple? gimme a break mon… and not me legs….

  • There were studies that proved those given MMR prior to three years old that it increased the risk of AUTISM exponentially!!
    I should know, I have no AUTISM in past genetics for my lineage… the military forced me to have my sons vaccinated with MMR, and all 4 sons within 2 weeks lost their speech functions, equilibriums, and even developed echocalia and blank stares! ALL 4 OF MY SONS MAGICALLY BECAME AUTISTIC AFTER THE SHOTS!!! ALL 4!!!! Prior to the shots they were happy healthy sons, on task for speech development and physical development prior to the shots!!! After the shots, they lost the functions and abilities they had already developed!!!

    If you want true vaccines/medicenes then you need to have other agencies get paid to PROVE their ineffectiveness and issues, rather than paying the same PHARMA companies to do their own trials! <<< major conflict of interest!

Top Stories
Recent Stories

Register

Newsletter

Email this story
Email this story

If you really want to ban this commenter, please write down the reason:

If you really want to disable all recommended stories, click on OK button. After that, you will be redirect to your options page.