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Flat Earth in 1984 by George Orwell

Thursday, May 7, 2015 3:52
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  • The Earth is obviously round. If you watch a ship move away from you and disappear over the horizon you can clearly tell. If the earth was concave, you would be able to see for incredible distances. If you stood on top of the sears tower you would be able to see the all the way across the ocean to Europe if the Earth was flat. This is just ridiculous. These flat-earthers give The Clucker a headache. The round Earth can simply be evidenced by the way shadows move. People ignore common sense and listen to idiots like Eric Dubay.

    So all of the other planets are clearly spherical, but just because us humans think we’re so damn special the Earth just happens to be flat instead of round, huh?
    Ugh.

    ~Clucker (disappointed in the lack of cognitive reasoning used by the flat-earthers today)

    • There is no curvature to the earth, even the high school kids are starting to figure this one out.

    • The Clucker knows everything in life. And when he doesn’t agree, he has to resort to cut everyone down because he needs to boost his low self eestem, to make him feel inferrier to those who know more then him. Also, The Clucker is a BIN employee, and god forbid someone knows more then them….

      • Hey JohnnyJ. I know it’s you because you tried to pull this same little self-esteem spiel on me on one of Lisa Unshaven’s articles.

        You’re wrong about The Clucker knowing everything. He learns something new everyday though. I actually have plenty of self-esteem. In all reality I probably think a bit too highly of myself. I like it when people know more *than me.(you used “then.” That’s incorrect grammar. Grammar is import, you know.)

        When people know more *than me I get to learn new things from them and learning is fun. I don’t want anyone to feel *inferior. (you butchered that one too.) I just don’t play nice with people that are spreading false information.

        I only wish I could be a BIN employee. *Then (That’s how you use that one right.) I would at least be getting paid for all of this trolling I do.

        If you’re still up for debating the silly theory of a flat earth feel free to check out my post below. It’s the one with the link. If you’re able to find any information that can refute those points I would be more than happy to listen to it. I will be leaving for vacation for the weekend and will not be back to debate until Monday so I’ll bookmark this article.

        Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

        ~The Clucker

      • Who’s Johnny J? I don’t need to debate it because I learned it; as many others reading this. I guess I’m a bad guy for not answering all your never ending questions; one after the other, after the other… That is why you need to learn. But if you want to believe in the round earth, feel free. Those that don’t know nor even made a single attempt to learn it themselves and see what the fuss is, shows they have a closed mind, and can’t let go of the lies they were taught in 1st grade and forward. But learning they lived a complete life of nothing but deep rooted lies, leaves them lost, so they prefer to continue to live that life, and discredit facts, that they don’t even want to attempt to envision. One way only, so anything else is wrong… Thats fine because thats the way society has trained everyone…until they wake up to reality… thanks for the link, but no thanks. I have all the proof I need. Those of us who learned it, know it, and just like this, you can’t teach anyone not willing to learn it, so why even try? Nothing but a waste because they can’t let go, nor know what to do if they learn they have been lied to since birth, so they ignore it as foolish… TV Show Brain Games is a good example you can’t believe what you see, nor what your mind thinks, because everything else is impossible… Its not.

  • If the Earth is Truly Round like a Ball, Spinning like a Top, while Hurdling through Space

    Then why close a Thread I did with over 40,000 Views and 672 Comments, because the Round Earthers were Losing Big Time to the Flat Earthers and the Moderator has yet to say Why He Closed it 2 weeks Later, While Banning Me and now changed to …Account not Activated… to Fool the Newcomers

    How can there be a Hollow Earth, when the Earth is Flat

    http://www.reactorbreach.com/showthread.php?tid=4207

    Another Thread of Mine Moved and Pinned now to the 11th Page with over 11,000 Views and over 300 Comments and a Test to be Performed and Filmed in Scotland to Prove the Earth is FLAT with assistance from the Scottish Canals.

    http://www.reactorbreach.com/showthread.php?tid=4201

    Here is a Link to the Mappa Mundi at the Center is what we call Antarctica today..just click start exploring and then just click the Center, its why NO ONE IS ALLOWED IN THE ANTARCTICA

    http://www.themappamundi.co.uk/mappa-mundi/

    • “Even though residents of Barrow, the northernmost town in Alaska, won’t see the sun for 67 days come winter, they enjoy the midnight sun all summer – over 80 days of uninterrupted daylight.”

      Where I’m at in the middle of the states this never happens. If the earth was flat there would be light where I am at the same time it is light in Alaska, but this is not the case when they don’t see the sun for 67 days. If the have light for 80 uninterrupted days then it would be light here for 80 days as well, but that never happens where I am either.

      These simple facts can only be explained by the fact that the earth has curvature.
      If the earth was flat it would be daylight all around the world all at once and it would be darkness all around the world at the same time.

      The earth being round can also be evidenced by the way gyroscopes function and the foucualt pendulum.

      • Clucker… All these questions you have are answered if you search, investigate and learn. You need to learn the basics first, and then all the 100s of questions you have most like this will be answered before you ask them. Seriously. Come on up the the next level of learning. You made it up one level from the masses, but there are many more levels yet for you and others to learn. Just because you learn 1 or 2 things, out of about 1 billion/trillion subjects, doesn’t me you know everything… You are wrong, and only answering one question at a time is meaningless to those already that know. Search yourself, if that is the subject you want to learn about. It not on the flat earth, learn whatever subject you feel like. Its not just one subject to awaken up to…

  • Obviously round by whos standards? Clearly basing on the lies they were taught since birth, and can not handle using facts to disprove they have been living an entire life of lies. People wouldn’t know how to handle reality if something deep rooted was actually a lie since birth. What would that make their lives = meaningless and nothing but a lifetime of lies. So you see, people can’t handle reality because they will feel lost in life, and need to hold on to those lies to keep their reality going… And thats exactly what they are. Lies to keep moving forward for a sense of meaningless purpose. Throughout human history, everyone said the earth was flat, until 1892, when they changed the teaching books and fooled this generation into being round. And americans are the perfect brainless, who have the most closed minded society in the world, and refuse to use their god given brain as they were given to think for themselves, and ask those questions and seek the truth for themselves. They rely solely on what they are told, and follow the masses to fit in; even when it is a lie. Do you know that the world map you were shown growing up IS FAKE? Fact. They made the US look alot larger then it is, and made Africa and other nations smaller. They did this because power is bigger, and if the US was to say 1/3th the size of Africa, wouldn’t that freek people out because how could such a small country be more powerful then a huge country? Search if you want to learn the truth. But all to often, especially on the normal commenters on BIN, do they only read and learn everything in stories, vs actually doing their own independent learning off of BIN. So they live in a small little world, and just like americans, they leech fake knowledge others say, vs actually doing their own independent research. But thats all too hard to research themselves, as most americans expect someone else to do all the work, and think they also learned this knowledge… That is the american way – leech, leech and leech again. Its way too hard to do a 30 second websearch on anything, and complain if they don’t have a link to click on… God forbid..

    Prove the earth is round. Why then doesn’t the earth “Curve” down over the water at 21 feet every 6 miles? It stays flat, and does not curve 1. So that means it would disappear but amazingly, it keeps going until you can’t see it anymore… Their is no such things as satellites, no space station, no moon walks… Once you can comprehend and see for yourself the big lie, only then will you comprehend the truth.

    Clearly, those who think they know everything about everything on BIN and life, immediately reject anything they don’t “Feel” can be right because of their fake false lies they were taught. They are actually the Zombies you see and hear, but their are many levels of Zombies. Just because you may see a group of them not knowing, doesn’t mean you are not one also. Their is more then one level of learning and just because you reach a point of knowing and awakening, doesn’t mean it ends there. You are on your stairway and the next level is in front of you. So don’t think since you made it to the first step, that its over, because their are others many steps above you that know more then you and laugh at you for knowing a couple of things, but they are out in left field on 95% of the other yet to be mind opened to even more awareness.

    Stop and honestly imagine what and how will your life and its values and effect do to you if it was proven the earth is flat. Where would you turn? What is real and what is not? How will handle being told nothing but lies by government? See how screwed up you will be? But welcome to reality. The earth is flat. I’m 99% positive, and never found one fact to disprove it. You are living in nothing but a life of a worker ant, and you are not in the upper ruling class. Imagine that… And you go along to buy this and buy that, you need money to buy, buy and buy some more. Once you can break away from this system and understand, only then will you be many more levels above you are currently…

    • You still didn’t answer my question. You say prove the earth is round, but I see no proof that it is flat. If it is flat how can it be dark in an area for days and days and days when the day/night cycle is progressing normally elsewhere?

      • Clucker… Again, all these questions you have are answered if you search, investigate and learn yourself on this subject. Once you first start to learn the theory, you will have all your questions answered as you learn and go wow. In learning, someone can not be holding your hand and give you a one on one learning lesson as you expect, nor do answering one question answer your question because you’ll come back with another. You cut me down numerous times yet I’m still trying to help you. Start by going to a site like Youtube and search. If its a garbage video, close it out and start another. Do searchs for whatever knowledge subject you want to learn, go to that direction. You didn’t know everything you do today in one question or day.

      • No satellites? Explain to me why you can actually see them move across the night sky and why amateur astronomers can see them with telescopes.

      • Sorry but I have trouble believing any theory that would require me to have to explain away something that exists as obviously as satellites do. Your presumptions about what I have and have not learned are entirely off base.

      • I never looked into anyone looking up in using that, but that was a side comment. To me, their is a ceiling and once you learn this subject we are on will this question be addressed and you will see it versus typing up pages. Its up to each person if they really want to learn or how much time they have to put into it. One ? goes into the next ?… Its good your asking, but first have your mind blown by starting at the beginning, as it will be answered as you learn…

      • Clucker. Thats fine whatever you believe. Thats your opinion and I respect that. No two people in the world see and think the same ways, nor have parallel lives so thats what makes each person different… Remember don’t always believe what your eyes, ears, taught, or feelings are. Ever watch Brain Games, where they twist everything around you and prove what you see, hear and feel are not always as they seem as reality? Welcome to life around you every second of every day…

      • The Flat Earthers like to explain away time zones by likening the sun to a spotlight, but if that’s the case then why does the sun rise and set? If the sun was a spotlight shining in a certain direction and moving it’s light in circles, then wouldn’t it appear to hover in more or less the same position in the sky? Any citizen of Earth would know that the sun in fact rises and sets in the course of a day, but if it actually did go below the horizon in a flat Earth then why can I still see it here in the US after people of the other side of the world tell me that it set?

        Another good proof that the Earth is round is the seasons. The FE’ers explanation for the seasons is that the sun goes in circles around the north pole, but if that was the case then what season it is based on the time of year would be dependent on your latitude and all 4 seasons would be present somewhere at any given time. How it actually works is that your latitude doesn’t matter and seasons on the northern and southern hemispheres are opposite, when one is summer the other is winter and when one is spring the other is fall. This is not explained by the flat earth model. Also if the sun went in circles around the North pole it would BE VISIBLE AT ALL TIMES!

        http://nerdist.com/proving-the-earth-is-round/

        The amount of proof that the earth is round is absolutely staggering. I can’t understand why someone would want to believe this flat earth tripe. The FE’ers think it’s some big conspiracy but in all reality why would the elites even lie about this? Is there anything to gain for them by lying about the shape of the earth? It would gain them no money whatsoever and it also would have no effect on anyone’s religious beliefs. It just doesn’t make sense on so many levels.

      • Thats fine if thats what you want to believe. Again, your time zone and light all over is explained if anyone would actually learn about the Flat Earth themselves. Actually, all your questions would be explained even before you ask them; but only if you actually want to watch and comprehend what is presented. You even actually get specifc examples that dis-prove everything you question. Its sorta like asking how does a car move? They explain the engine, then they get another question how does it turn the wheels… Its never ending question after question, until they take the time to actually listen themselves and learn all about the car. Its not just one thing. As in life, you can’t get full knowledge on a subject in one sentence, as everyone expects. Life and learning is a endless journey, and only each person decides when they want to stop learning in their life. If they have a question, they need to search why this or that, if they really want to know the answer. Someone gave a starting point in a previous link (I didn’t look at it) but I’m sure its a starting point. Humans are not like a computer yet, where you can just plug in and instantly, do you get the information. How do you sum up any subject in one sentence, when their are factors involved in the answer? People can’t and don’t have time to explain each one; and get upset when each are not answered. Seek and all your answers to this will indeed be answered as you learn…

      • TCB

        Toilet Water.

        The toilet water is the lynchpin. Pull that sucker out and flat earth theory whistles from the sound of escaping air.

        Water swirls the bowl counterclockwise north of the equator. It does the opposite in parts south of the equator. This same phenomenon dictates the rotational direction of hurricanes and typhoons, which, like toilet water, spin in opposite directions depending upon their position relative to the equator.

        Flat Earthers, I am all ears waiting for an explanation for that objection to your theory.

      • Walter, why misdirect people into checking to see which way the crap flows when all they gotta do is look right here in this comment bowl?

        and, Clucker! I know yer a prankster but did ya hafta go and tip over a clown car?

      • Yes, Walter. You nailed it. The thing with the way toilet water goes and the way hurricanes spin is called the Coriolis Effect. I am 100% certain that you already know this though based on what I know of your comprehension of things. I would also like to see the flat earthers try to debunk any of these facts that we’ve stated but unfortunately they like to make wild baseless claims.

        Strangely enough, when they get called out on these claims by someone using logic and reason they seem to disappear like a fart in the wind. The whole lot of them. It’s really interesting how that seems to work.

        The most interesting part about it all (to me anyway) is the fact that they need to explain away very obvious and easy to understand things to arrive at a wildly strange and illogical conclusion.

        For Sean’s 11,000 views and 300 comments on his article that he is boasting about he sure didn’t bother much to go beyond 1 comment here when faced with the facts. I don’t know if that says something about him or just the readership of Reactor Breach in general as a lot.

        Someone could shut down his article for a lot of reasons. Hell, he might just be generally unliked there by the staff like The Clucker is here. Them shutting down his article means nothing.

  • While you labour under the presumption that subjective experience is objective reality, life will pass you by.
    “Don’t think feel. It’s like a finger pointing away to the moon. Don’t concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all the heavenly glory.” – Bruce Lee

  • HAHA.. WOW!!!

    Clucker, obviously, it is futile to reason with those who cannot see beyond the horizon..

    Unfortunately, critical thought lies just beyond for such people, not to mention plain common sense.

  • Aren’t the 2 dimensional surfaces of all spheres flat? Clearly they can’t be 3 dimensional.

    • heh, good one Damien! Here’s something i know you’ll like if not already aware:

      Did you know that you can create a triangle comprised of right angles on the surface of a sphere?

      • Exactly, RAIN. That can only happen if the Earth has CURVATURE!
        On a flat surface this would result in a square if you planned on ending up whaere you started, but the flat earthers will actually throw geometry and trigonometry out the window right along with their logic.

        A strange and gullible lot they are.

        See ya Monday, BIN.

        ~Cluckmaster General (Kicking the FE’ers in the nuts today.)

      • *where

        Sorry. I’m 7 shots and 5 beers deep. Yeah, that’s right Anonymous. I’m giving you ammo. See what you can do with it. :cool:

      • 7shots, Clucker? must be loading a clip.. happy hunting!

  • Alright flat earth “truthers” explain barrow Alaska to me, on your flat earth…..how does barrow Alaska have 82 straight days of sunlight without a “sunset” in the summer from may to august and 65 days of darkness in the winter, all the while being near the center of your flat earth? huh? huh? oh and for any of you “truthers” who’d like to say barrow is a conspiratorial lie…..you can freely go to barrow and enjoy months long daytime with temperatures rarely exceeding 15°C/59°F

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