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Friday, June 19, 2015 10:46
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(Before It's News) held a “second round” between Pope Francis and Putin. Obviously the theme is migration. In 2013, Francis tried to “advise” not to block refugees. Also there are the Council of Worlds would not want to Russia did not block migrants. The question is: what is the position of Putin and whether it will affect his decision? Also there is confusion between what Putin would like to achieve and which wants the elite in Russia. And recently there have been reports that allegedly NATO wants to annex Kaliningrad. Whether these plans are real or just an attempt to force Putin to act? [and from another]  Pope Francis has met privately with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the Vatican, using the talks to call for a “sincere and great effort” aimed at bringing peace to Ukraine. Vatican spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi said their talks concentrated on the Ukraine conflict and the Middle East, where the Holy See is worried about the fate of the Christian minority.It was the men’s second meeting since Francis became pope in 2013. Lombardi said Francis stressed the need to bring peace to Ukraine through dialogue and implementation of the Minsk accords. Francis also urged access for humanitarian aid. [and from another]  NATO wanted to annex Russia’s Kaliningrad! According to a message posted on the Lithuanian armed forces website in what was described by Lithuanian officials as a hacker attack. An investigation has been launched. The information on the army’s page alleges that ‘Sword-Stroke’ – the NATO military drills going on in Poland and the Baltic – are actually a preparation for the annexation of Kaliningrad, Russia’s westernmost city, sandwiched between Poland and Lithuania, which separates it from mainland Russia. The drills (June 1-19), organized by US military in Europe, are taking place in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland, and feature around 6,000 troops from 13 NATO member-states, as well as Finland. These are Lithuania’s biggest military exercises since joining the alliance in 2004. The exercises stem from concerns over neighboring Russia, intensified by the Baltic States and their allegations of Russian activities in Ukraine. Moscow, for its part, has responded with promises to ramp up security in Crimea. [and from another]  Hackers hacking at the Lithuanian Army reported “the annexation of Kaliningrad”. Hackers broke into the official website of the Joint Staff of Lithuanian Armed Forces, reports Delfi. The site has information that the alleged purpose of the exercise “his sword”, which take place in the Baltic States and Poland are “preparing for the annexation of the Kaliningrad region.” A spokesman for the Ministry of Defence of Lithuania Victoria Tseminite said that the site was posted false information. “Analysts at the National Center for Cybersecurity investigate the fact of hacking,” – said Tseminite. The Defense Ministry clarified that the site is responsible for the security of a private company. The exercises “his sword – 2015″ held from 1 to 19 June in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland, which involved about 6 thousand. Soldiers from 13 countries – members of NATO and Finland. [and from another]

We have stated that both Putin and Pope Francis are Service-to-Other in their spiritual orientation, having empathy and caring for others at least as much as they are concerned for themselves. Why do they not agree? Service-to-Other individuals or groups will have a mission, and those missions cannot be so broad based that they create a muddle. In particular, a Service-to-Other individual who is a leader on a 3rd density world must appeal to the group they are leading, else they will lose their position. Putin is faced with aggression from the West, as is clear from the Soros incited coup in Kiev and NATO’s plans to capture Kaliningrad. 

The Pope is allowed the latitude to make statements that all religions should be respected, that the rich should share with the poor, that arms should be put down and aggression and wars cease, that borders should melt and all people allowed to migrate anywhere they wish. But Putin cannot make such broad statements. He would no longer be the leader of Russia should he do so. Will he and the Pope have anything more than a polite discussion, thus? It is naïve to think this. They will communicate their positions, seek common ground, but as in the past neither will sway the others. This is not a unique situation. The Council of Worlds is busy precisely because of disagreements among Service-to-Others. 

Source: ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for June 20, 2015

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