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‘The Original Sin – A Myth Whose Time Is Up’

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‘The Original Sin – A Myth Whose Time Is Up’


adam-and-eveby Julian Rose | Contributor Philosophers Stone


Of all the deceptions pulled on humanity over the ages, The Original Sin is probably the most devastating. Yet hugely successful from the perspective of the perpetrators.

Almost everywhere the doctrine of Christianity forged its zealous mission to convert the masses, so the Original Sin accompanied it. Imposing the rationale of guilt on untold millions whose open minds no doubt thought they were receiving a message of emancipation and light.

Not so my friends, you were in fact receiving a message just about as dark as darkness gets!

The extraordinary power of a message, properly formed, packaged and publicized, is something we have all come to learn a lot about in recent decades. ‘The medium is the message’ declared Marshall McLuhan back in 1964. And that edict could easily pass for the moment the first biblical texts let it be known that a man called Adam and a woman called Eve got the whole human race off to a very bad start … from which it appears to have never recovered.

However the reason it got off to a bad start and has still failed to fully recover, cannot be pinned on any fault of Adam and Eve, as we shall see, but lies squarely at the feet of a masterful plot to falsify what is actually a potent story of human emancipation and growing inner conviction.

This ‘human race’ to which the biblical text refers, was set on its way by a starting pistol fired by someone who didn’t want anyone participating in this race to actually win. He or she or it, only wanted losers; and that’s pretty much what they got.

See what I mean by successful?

The story goes like this: there were just two human beings on this planet at the moment the starting pistol was fired. There was a beautiful garden as well, and in that beautiful garden were these two humans: a man called Adam and woman called Eve, and there was also an apple tree (in full fruit) and a serpent.

In this ensuing myth, God makes it clear to Adam that he can do whatever he likes in this garden except “eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge.” But, well, being human, and having been given ‘free will’ by divine rite, he doesn’t really see the logic in this command from above. The serpent seems in accord with him in this, and somehow or other tempts Eve into plucking this big juicy apple and taking a bite before then offering it to Adam.

“And he did eat thereof.  And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.” They were, we are informed “ashamed.” Both on account of taking a forbidden action and of being revealed unto themselves as ‘naked’.

It is around this infamous ‘eating of the fruit’ – an action most of us would likely have taken out of simple curiosity – that millennia of Christian shame and guilt have their inception.


Here is where a pervasive irrational suffering concerning our natural physical condition has its origins. Where our ‘private parts’ became privatized. Where the natural pleasures of physical intimacy were turned to guilt: unless of course the so called ‘Church of God’ authorized such acts via formal marriage in the Christian place of worship.

A great plethora of ‘thou shalt not’s’ were soon pinned onto what was essentially Adam and Eve’s courageous original act of ‘civil disobedience’: the refusal to be cowed by a seemingly higher authority.

Yes, by looking deeper into this infamous story, we see that Adam and his accomplice Eve did something pretty special in this Garden of Eden. Their action, when viewed in a manner freed from the typical conditioned response, looks very much like a ‘giant step forward for mankind’. Something which Neil Armstrong was told to say while getting out of a papier mache lunar capsule constructed and filmed in Pinewood studios, London in 1969.

But the mythical Adam was not faking it, as Armstrong was on behalf of those who worship a god named ‘technology’. He and his mythical Eve conspired to start a great ball rolling down the ages which would, one day, lead to man acquiring real knowledge, real independence and real self awareness. Except, of course, that this was the last thing that the manipulators of this story wanted.

On further examining the symbolism of this tale, one can recognize that eating the apple of the Tree of Knowledge opened the eyes of this man and woman to the fact that they were adequately equipped to take their destinies into their own hands and forge their own path in life. A path which would reveal to them that they were not just subjects to be ordered around according to the will of their master, but were blessed with a unique gift: the ability to think and act creatively and rationally. Even to reflect on their own condition and existence. And, equally contrary to the classic interpretation, it was indeed their Creator himself who wished this to be so.

For this Creator felt the pain of loneliness – and longed to have company in the great quest of life. But in order to have this company, his Adam and Eve had to pass the first great test: that of defying false authority and daring to eat from the Tree of Knowledge. Only then could they start on the road of becoming ‘strivers with God’ and companions to the supreme; blazing that unchartered course whose direction only becomes known through embracing the insecurity of the creative process.  Taking that momentous ‘leap in the dark’ which is the mother of all great quests. All great adventures.

However, the biblical text upon which we were all raised, tells us something very different. It tells us that Adam and Eve were ‘cast out’ of this Garden of Eden due to their unforgivable and sinful act of disobedience. Disobedience to God himself, no less. Which caused them to be ‘ashamed’: both of their nakedness and their disobedience.

We are told by the church, which sees itself  as the spokesperson of this biblical story, that thanks to Adam and Eve, we all carry ‘the shame’ to this very day. That we must pay the price of this ‘original sin’ and be humbled by the magnitude of this human error. An error of such supposed gravity that it became known as ‘The Fall’ .

In this translation of the stories surrounding certain key events of prehistory, man ‘falls’ before he has even begun to walk – and everything that follows is tainted by this supposedly tragic error of human judgment* ( see the link at the end for further reading).

What does this Nakedness really symbolize?

It is the moment when we realize that everything we thought was one thing actually turns out to be another. A lot of stuff drops off us in that instant. We become naked, because the old clothes don’t fit any more and the new clothes have to be woven from fresh wool. It is the dawn of true knowledge. Knowledge that makes us aware that there exists a divine state – and also a corruption of that state.  That, at any one time, both exist. And that we must choose our course in life based on this knowledge.

The Garden of Eden is representative of a state of essentially ‘passive’ potential. An as yet unignited and unmoving potential. What was needed was a spark to set the whole thing off. And that spark came when Eve, who was in subconscious communication with the serpent, reached up and plucked that ruddy round apple and took a bite out of it. It was she who broke the ‘obeisance to authority’ taboo.

How about The Serpent’s role in this drama?

The serpent is the anima of a rising energy. The Kundalini serpent, entwined around the spine (trunk) of the tree of knowledge. Get it?

When the serpent spoke to Eve, it was ‘the word’. “In the beginning was The Word”. However this word was not an actual word, but a vibration. An impulse. Energy directed  from within. And this energy said to Eve “Do It”. And she did. Her action bears the hallmark of the first stirrings of a divine mission: the stirring into movement of that which is fecund – yet unable to act.

The female divine force it was – which enabled Adam and Eve to ‘come awake’ and find that they were no longer just innocent hippies frolicking in the cozy garden of the unconscious; unchallenged and unaware of the greater reality of existence. It is a prerogative of ‘attaining the knowledge of good and evil’ to then set off on that path of greater knowledge, no matter what!

And what about The Tree?

The tree itself is a powerful symbol of growth. For it outwardly expresses the manifestation of a condition essential for man’s own evolution: the putting down of roots and the spreading out and up of trunk and branches – as a ‘simultaneous act’. An act transmutable to we humans, almost literally:

starting at the navel, where the umbilical cord has nourished us is the womb, and moving simultaneously down and up from here.

It has the great quality of annulling the ‘either’ ‘or’ option, which is the hallmark of much of our dark side formal education. Real human development, in body mind and spirit, is both a tap root into the deep and a crown reaching into the beyond. In equal measure. Always both – never just one or the other.

So the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden is indeed just that: a tree of knowledge. It is not “the forbidden tree” as is commonly taught in the Christian church.

So why did the church choose to promote this forbidden factor?

Because this ‘knowledge’ is capable of exposing the tyranny that lies at heart of human slavery. A knowledge that must not be allowed out for fear of its repercussions on the control system which was already in place, and to which the church was – and remains to this day – an accomplice. The command ‘not to eat’ of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge did not come from God, but from some other force implacably set against all that is divine.

As the story tells us: “around its trunk a serpent is entwined.” From ancient times this serpent has been recognized as a source of special energy. Particularly, as said earlier, in the descriptions of the Kundalini practice of Tantra Yoga. It is the rising energy which illuminates, one by one, the seven chakras of the human body by moving up the spinal column – just as the serpent is moving up the trunk of the Tree of knowledge – awakening (in this case) the succulent glory of the famous apple. A bite out of which moved Adam and Eve into a certain ‘state of awareness’.

The serpent and the tree are thus powerful symbols – and tools of human enlightenment.

And The Garden?

I have already alluded to the notion that the garden is a place – or a condition – which remains untainted. In this it is a symbol of our childhood. A time when we were not yet conscious of historical karma and therefore able to freely explore all that which becomes manifest, within and without.

It’s a place in which one remains, as in the case of the plant and animal kingdoms, in a state of instinctive response to divine energies, with as yet little or no involvement of individual will.

But that is not man and woman’s lot in life. Nor is it why our creator made manifest a state of ‘conscious awareness’, a state associated with the use of the higher mind.

In order to activate this higher mind Adam and Eve could not remain forever in their childhood garden, but needed to ‘eat from the tree of knowledge’ thus recognizing the actual challenge that lay ahead. The challenge of moving from unconscious sub-awareness to conscious full awareness. From childhood to adulthood. A long and winding road indeed! But a road in which each step carries with it a fuller understanding of our greater role in the divine plan.

This is the ‘road of genius’ that British 18th century poet William Blake referred to when he wrote: “The straight road is a road of ‘progress’, but the crooked road is the road of genius.”

And the Divine Plan itself?

Ah, we are not really privy to the full architecture of the divine plan. For it is a ‘state of being’ and as such cannot really be described, only attained, through the lasting application of true intent.

However, I believe we can recognize that, put very simply, our Creator remembered his own coming into movement from that which lacked movement; and he wished to celebrate this, ‘his birthday’. The day movement was born.

But one cannot celebrate a birthday without the presence of other empathizing beings with whom to share the joyous occasion. So ‘in the beginning’ this creator was most fortunate in being visited by a complementary, yet opposite and deeply receptive energy. This great coming together of opposite yet deeply complimentary energies was of huge significance – because out of it emerged a state  which we call ‘equilibrium’, movement. Something which is going somewhere – with a sense of purpose. No longer just a becalmed state of fecundity.

Movement owes its origins to a female energy. In Indian mythology this feminine force is called Shakti, the female principle of God. God, whose omnipotence expresses the consummated marriage of the creative and receptive principles, is thus dual in nature. Both male and female; female and male. And everything in this universe is an expression of this duality. Everything that comes to life, comes to life through the friction made manifest by this hugely potent and divine love affair. A love affair between the two energetic components of a primordial and primal duality. The ever present Yin and Yang of existence.

And what we call sexuality is actuality ‘sex-duality’ – the consummated act of divine union which gave birth and made manifest what we call Life. And perhaps most wonderful and mysterious of all is that an omnipresent and omnipotent force called Love infused and nourished this great primordial act of union which we ourselves are an expression of. One might even say that this Love preceded the one we call the Creator … but that is another story in our deep and unfathomable past!

For now it is enough to recognize that Adam and Eve, the Garden, the Tree and the Serpent, were all critical elements in kick-starting the evolution of mankind – and indeed all sentient life forms. We can now most clearly state that ‘The Original Sin’ was precisely the opposite of a sin – it was the birth of man as a free agent in pursuing the divine intuitive message which leads us (back) to our Creator. But this time as responsible realized beings – as microcosmic Gods in our own right.

Then the Creator will greatly rejoice at the results of this divine union and will welcome us to the “Great Celebration” which cannot happen until the moment of our participation, as equals, in his Godliness. An event keenly anticipated by sowers of truth – and greatly feared by spreaders of the lie.

All the confusions surrounding sexuality and sexual relations stem from this distortion called the Original Sin. Our sexuality, far from being something to be ashamed of, is that which connects us directly with Divine. It was – I repeat once again – due to that glorious consummation between two poles of irresistible mutual attraction – male and female – that this Universe came to life. That ‘life’ which forms the birth place of our very own cosmic essence.

Only something expressing an extreme position of alienation to this joyous truth would wish to lay such a sinister and divisive trap for mankind. A trap which, by proclaiming the celebration of our sexuality ‘a sin’, epitomizes the state of reversed truth which still remains central to the workings of our strangled Western societies.

What that force is which is so adept at twisting truth into its opposite is another story for another article.

For now, let us take pleasure in having put the divine plan right back on track. On having reconnected to the roots of our true nature and found that, far from being ashamed we are proud to go forward in full knowledge of our innate divinity.

Let us rejoice in the fact that this innocuous debacle known as The Original Sin has been properly exposed as a deeply divisive myth whose time is well and truly up. May it finally crumble to dust under the iridescent rays of a rising Aquarian sun!

*related reading:


Julian is a farmer, international activist and writer. He is the the author of the widely acclaimed ‘In Defense of Life’, a persuasive demonstration of how we can take control of our individual destinies and gain new strength in facing-up to the challenges that lie ahead. You can read about and purchase the book at It can also be purchased from and at independent on line and high street book stores




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    • The bible says that a son is not responsible for the sins of the father. If this is true then we can’t be held accountable for Adams sins.

      If this is false then the bible is not true. This is one of those contradictions that Christians are always saying don’t exist in the bible.

      Also God said that if Adam ate the fruit, he would surely die that day. Since Adam didn’t die that day that means that God lied.

      If you say that 1000 years is a day to God then I would ask you if Adam was aware of this at the time? If not then God in the bible is basically a trickster/liar.

      This is the same kind of deceitful crap that our whole legal and monetary systems are based on. Must have came from the same source.

  • wrong, original sin is a true doctrine….maybe not as the catholics explain it though…

    here is a good working explanation…

    original sin is like hitting a curb with your left front wheel…This knocks the wheel out of alignment so that the car is always pulling you to the left to cross the line (assuming right side driving). Easy enough to control at low speed, can cause a terrible wreck at high speeds if the car crosses the line in heavy traffic & pulls the car into the path of an oncoming truck. The same way, original sin is always pulling us in a way to cross the line with trespasses and sins. At figurative high speeds in time of stress or duress, this crossing the line can cause sin & its consequences…

    don’t like that explanation? try this one:

    original sin is like the herpes virus. Herpes is forever. It hides in the body usually. Conditions arise that there is an outbreak. Then you have got an ugly cold sore on your lip. Time to get out the camphor oil and treat it. Original sin is like that. Normally it is latent. Stressful conditions, temptations, and lust cause an eruption. You can treat the symptoms, but you can never really get rid of the virus. That’s how it is with sin.

    Original sin is the potential to do wrong that lies deep within all of us. It is that sort of meanness and cussedness that comes out and makes people do wrong.

    • What a load of fake Christian lying BS – no wonder you wretches are headed for outer darkness. The only ugly virus here is YOU. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

      • hey herpes-lip…time to get out the camphor oil…you just had a nasty outbreak of original sin…

        people who don’t have anything intelligent to say always fall back on insults…

        “case proven, Q.E.D.”

    • This sounds like the elementary school explanation from jknbt. I agree with the article though. We’ve all been brainwashed into thinking horrible thoughts, and doing horrible things as if it’s “the way we are”. How about that bogus bible story about God telling Abraham to kill his child, but then stops him before he actually does because god tells him he just wanted him to prove his loyalty?!!! What a bunch of crap THAT story is… Among others in the bible.

      • great truths from the bible have obvious evidence.

        A simple explanation is in order when the truth is self-evident.

        about the Abraham-Issac story you blast away at….you kind of missed the point…God is saying that he does not want child sacrifice as shown by his intervention…this was different from the cananite religions of the day that routinely required child sacrifice.

        also this is the beginning of the Mt. Moriah theme. Eventually, Soloman built the temple on Mt Moriah where this happened. And the end of the age will be marked by the returning King taking up his throne on the rebuilt temple on Mt Moriah. looks like you missed that also.

  • We live under a lot more rules and laws now than we ever would have had original sin not occurred. We trade everlasting life under a Creator who CREATED all things to die under a man made authority who’s desire it is to CONTROL all things. We really traded up!

  • YOU: “For now it is enough to recognize that Adam and Eve, the Garden, the Tree and the Serpent, were all critical elements in kick-starting the evolution of mankind – and indeed all sentient life forms. We can now most clearly state that ‘The Original Sin’ was precisely the opposite of a sin – it was the birth of man as a free agent in pursuing the divine intuitive message which leads us (back) to our Creator. But this time as responsible realized beings – as microcosmic Gods in our own right.
    Then the Creator will greatly rejoice at the results of this divine union and will welcome us to the “Great Celebration” which cannot happen until the moment of our participation, as equals, in his Godliness. An event keenly anticipated by sowers of truth – and greatly feared by spreaders of the lie.”

    ME: “Great article. I really enjoyed it. You will get many here who come out of the woodwork to call you Satan, failing to know the central Mystery the symbolism reveals. I will not do this, but kindly point you to the rest of the Mystery you are so close to solving. See my blog:

    Here are a couple of things you should know. First and foremost, you must know who you are in relation to the Son of God.

    Colossians 1

    15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

    We are images of this Son, complete with rulers such as Ego (Yahweh) and Conscience (Satan / Accuser). Satan is the conscience of the Son of God, accusing the errors of the Son from Genesis 2 all the way to his crown of thorns (Circumcision) on the cross. The story is a relative struggle between Spirit and Soul. While it is true he died for our sins, he also died for his own. He paid this cost for his old nature Yahweh (Ego).

    Genesis 9

    Whoever sheds human blood,
    by humans his blood will be shed,
    because in his image, Elohim made humans.

    Adam is the Lamb. Yahweh shed his blood by taking the rib, symbolic of the Lord using Adam to judge himself. Yahweh is not God, but the Spirit of the Son of God. Adam is his Soul, or material body. Yahweh formed mankind naked (Arummim) and Satan was made Cunning (Arum). This wordplay gives us the goal of being naked. Our goal is to overcome our accuser. Satan is the Conscience of the Son of God. By gaining virtue, we set aside the old man (Yahweh) and gain the new man (Holy Spirit / Feminine bride to groom). The goal is to overcome the one ruling us. Why? So we can gain self-governance by our own nature from wisdom and understanding. Your use of the word knowledge is not quite accurate. ALL knowledge can be imparted. Wisdom and understanding cannot. Toil is required.

    Confucius said, “I hear and I forget. I see and I learn. I do and I understand.”

    The Lord is the Mind (ruler) of all beings. We each have one, given as an inheritance. The point of mastery over the image of God is overcoming the need for the Lord as a guardian.

    Galatians 3

    23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

    Be careful in your determination of God’s intent. Intent is by design. The design, in all cases, is to allow us freedom by faith to gain virtue ( the gift of salvation accepted by us). Anything less than God’s will (to give only) makes us a thief taking what we do not earn by our own merit. In this case, the name (Christ means giving) is taking the name in vain. The first human to overcome is Adam (Son of Man). He did this with the assistance of the Father. Yahweh was denied his host when Herod rebuilt the temple. To see the plan Yahweh had, you read Zechariah 3. Instead of the Ruach Yahweh impregnating Mary, the Ruach Elohim (Holy Spirit) impregnated Mary. I go into detail in my blog on these topics and more.

    If you fail to know this:

    …you fail to know this: /contributor/pages/472/430/bio.html

    See my article on why Yahweh was the Devil. It’s the entire reason the Son of Man (Adam) rejected the Kingdom of David when offered it in the Desert temptation. Ruling over God is the Ego. Silencing Satan is the humility of Adam before his Father. The true Father is Elohim and not Yahweh. Genesis 1 reveals the original God of Yin/Yang, Male / Female and Fire and Water. Together, they are one Elohim, in union and marriage. HIS image is both male and female, where Adam stated. Yahweh divided Adam’s image with bloodshed (slain from the foundation by Yahweh).

    Who is the scapegoat in this story? Yahweh. He is the old nature of Adam, set aside for the new (Ruach Elohim). The Holy Spirit is God by intent (his desire for us from Love). All of it was a good design. For all of us, the scapegoat is the nature we give up to the pit. The new nature comes by virtue.

    In the end, we are meant to overcome our Lord. Facing this fear is the last of our struggles, but impossible apart from Virtue. Don’t miss God’s will to give only. It’s the entire reason creation was given to the Lord (SON) as Yahweh. Elohim rested in Genesis 2, handing it ALL to him. What more could he give than his Son? There is an answer. All of creation too.

    Galatians 5

    22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

    If you read nothing else I have written, read this:

    The two videos at the end show the allusion / illusion of this story at its source. The Hebrews were originated form Indian Philosophers. The Bible story is a retelling of the Mahabharata Poem. The essence of this poem is held in a 4 hour movie by Peter Brooks by the same name (Mahabharata). The key mystery is held in the two videos I linked there. The entire move is free on Youtube and unravels all the characters of the Mystery of God’s story for man.

    The true battlefield is your heart. The outside world is merely an image of the Son’s heart in us. Your chariot driver is the Lord (Mind). The mind of collective humanity always reflects our current development on the timeline God designed. It knows and is fully Arum (full of knowledge and cunning). You are Arummim (naked) until you are more cunning than the one ruling you. The only way out is the narrow path of virtue according to God’s will. God can only give. Thieves take. It’s the essence of our graduation to self-governance from tyranny by law.

    Today, we face the tyrant. He is the Lord. He is also our Redeemer if we get the point of God’s lesson to us as newly created sentient life.

    Enjoyed your version. God Bless!

  • Is this what this entire article about? THAT YOU MOCKED GOD AND DIED???

    Oh, if you did that to a MOB boss or something you would say he deserved it. Here, you do it to your OWN CREATOR and say you don’t deserve to DIE!!!

    Well, you should of OBEYED GOD AND LIVE!!!

    • ja brother, i see, that you see.

  • Wow, thanks very much, great truth! How do I know that beyond the obvious cries of the brainwashed objectors?

    Because of the all-too-common use of the lie which is constantly repeated by the Illuminati/Freemasons in one of their “Churches” where it is emphatically repeated ad-nauseam. Sooner or later it is backed-up by a call for “obedience”. Repetition, repetition, repetition, does that sound like it isnt mind to control to anyone with discernment or knowledge of the truth?

    How could it be possible this is not a tool for control of mankind, instead of the freedom of will as established by the Creator? For the love of Christ, if its permissible to kill or make slaves out of humanity because we all have freewill, surely freewill trumps guilt, which is only used to empower your slave masters.

    Yes objectors, be a proud slave, anyway! Do you believe that is what the Benevolent Prime Creator gave you freewill to do, to love your slavery like you are a farm animal for your masters? :lol:

    • I am free to do God’s will. Yes, I do have a choice in the matter.

      Try this on for size: (john 8:36)
      Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.

      sorry bud, but it is you who are a slave to the devil, flesh, and world. You have to do every wicked thing your sinful body wants. So you are the one in bondage, not me.

      Think about it, before you blast away next time.

      • None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

  • Kundalin is about awakening the serpent within but what you are actually doing is allowing a demonic spirit into yourself by emptying your mind.

    What a demonic spirit is the evil spirit of a human and a fallen angel union producing a demigod (nephilim) whose mortal body was drowned in Noah floods and these evil spirits are looking for someone to let them in as they fill naked without a body but their influence on the person once in is to turn that person away from God and take their soul to Hell.

    Adam and Eve were created in the image of God and God is Father, His Word (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit (Arch angel Michael) so Man is also Father to the words that come out of him and his angel if allowed by God will carry it out.

    Original sin happened when Adam joined with Eve’s angel (Satan) and Eve joined with Adam’s angel (Lucifer). This joining messed up the human race as men were tainted with femininity and women were messed up with masculinity and their became a confusion of the sexes among other things, the further you were away from God usually the more confused you become. Adam and Eve were naked because their angels left them and no longer covered them with their glory.

    Cain was the child of the union of Lucifer and Eve who killed his human brother Able. Later on we read that more of these half breeds were produced and all life and plants were being mixed up like what’s happening today and Jesus said He would return and the days would be like the days of Noah. All these half breeds were wiped out in the flood, the fallen angels that were producing them were locked up in Hell and the only fallen angels that are loose for now are Satan and Satan’s angel who were not doing this, it is why there is such a goddess worship!

  • SIF

    CTrent33 is right sexual sin is at the very heart of A and E eating from the Tree of Knowledge. They ate from the tree of life making them to be like God and then they ate from the knowledge tree. They wanted to be like God, that is the original sin. Learned this as a baby Christian over 40 years ago. We see it everywhere in the very poor way we treat each other because we have to win over the other in order to prove our divinity. Chop down the other tree in order to make theirs appear taller. Viz a viz They were here first, therefore everyone bow and kiss the ground they walk on. Sorry…NO.
    In addition, stop blaming the Christians. Almost every religion recognizes man blew it and that an evil force really exists. Ex Navajo religion, “first man became a witch.” :evil:

    • Few people realize the facts of 3 short chapters. First, in Genesis 1, Adam has a Father (Elohim) and Mother (Ruach Elohim). Use the NOG (Names of God Bible to see this clearly). The image of God is both male and female joined as one, which Adam was. You then get to Genesis 2, when the Elohim (parents) rest. We then meet Yahweh, who promptly divides Eve from Adam, makes Satan, then places them together. The interesting thing to recognize is that Adam and Eve were formed (not created) naked (Arummim). Satan was made cunning (Arum). While Adam and Eva had no knowledge, Satan did. The tree bearing the fruit of Satan was Yahweh. Follow the story far enough and you get the essence of the mystery, which I outline in my articles here and in my blog ( Read my previous comment above.

      The story resolves to why we sinned in the first place. We were devoid any knowledge about our actions, holding us justified to this day. There is a scapegoat in this story and the solution to the mystery resolves to his identity. Yahweh is the old nature of the Lord we call Christ. As he did, we must all do. We must all walk away from our old self. The entire story is the same as every philosophy from antiquity. Know thyself. Even the Son of God had to do this to overcome his old nature as Yahweh / Satan. The identity of the Devil was told to us by Jesus in John 8.

      See this Article:

  • Man

    God is all knowing so he knew what would happen. he is the creator of everything and thus also sin. and somehow he is so inept in forgiving that he needs to kill a part of himself to get it all corrected.

    what part of that makes sense? none

  • If you want to understand Original Sin, read “Thinking and Destiny by Harold W. Percival”. The Bible presents this in a ridiculous way that conceals rather than reveals the truth of the matter.

  • I have no idea where this person is getting their info. Certainly not from the scriptures, which is the only place you will find the recorded story of Adam and Eve. This article is written solely on conjecture, and a desire to self justify the act of sin itself. Might as well add a car chase and shootout to the story to give it a little flare.

  • Hey Mr. James the author….here’s a story for you…

    The preacher was visiting the local insane asylum. He noticed one of the patients outside the building on a day pass. The patient was vigorously digging up the foundation of the building. He was doing his best to undermine the foundations.

    “Hey”, the preacher said, “don’t you know that if you keep that up, the whole building will fall down?”

    “That’s no problem”, the patient said, ” ya see…I live on the sixth floor!”

    Moral of the story: you liberals and humanists have done your best to undermine the foundations of western civilization in the last 100 years. Okay, you’ve won. A good working understanding of biblical literalist bible truth has informed our world for centuries, but you people don’t want that anymore. After all, you are children of the enlightenment, and therefore are morally superior, intellectually superior, and above the benighted conservatives who cling to old beliefs like original sin.

    You’ve won, but what have you won? Our country is falling apart at the scenes with accelerating moral decline, and who knows where it will end? You have undermined the foundations well, but this has the effect of collapsing the figurative sixth floor where we all have to live in the 21st century. I would start to list recent examples, but it would be simpler to refer you to the evening news.

    The bottom line is that you liberals, socialists, humanists, and atheists do not have anything really superior to what has worked for so long. You like to refer to France as a model of enlightened modern civilization. If you have been watching the news, you will have notice that France has turned fascist and repressive in response to the terrorism of recent times. They already have 70% tax on the middle class. This is based on the ethic that they must take money from those who get educated and work, and then give it to those who abhor education and will not work. Why? Because those people are poor. Boo Hoo, they must rob the middle class to help those poor dears.

    Think about where you liberals are leading us if you really think that socialist, fascist France is a national role model.

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