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No Matter How Bad Obama Is the Republicans Forfeited Rights to Rule on 9/11
It doesn’t matter how bad Obama is, the Republicans with the neocons in charge, are worse. I think this Obama drone warfare is evil, is murderous, and innocent first responders die. Yet we cannot take our eye off the ball. The neocons in the Republican Party planned 9/11/2001 and they planned the resulting wars.
Obama’s NSA abuses of privacy are becoming well documented, but George W Bush started that ball rolling, and the Republicans can add even new calls for attacking American citizens.
I have written in my ebook False Flag Murdering Neocon Crazies on Amazon, that the Republicans were responsible for 9/11. It is a conspiracy. It was an act that was the single most criminal act in the history of mankind. There were bigger criminals than W Bush and Cheney. Hitler comes to mind. But there was no bigger crime.
Until the neocons are purged from the Republican Party, the party cannot be trusted regarding new false flags.
I have explained on BIN how Obama is not the biggest false flag threat.
But my argument does not end there. The Republicans must be punished through withholding your votes. They lied. They killed Americans. They went to war illegally for oil and for the pipeline to Halliburton investments in the Caspian Sea. They must be punished because they have not changed. Patrick Clawson proved they have not changed!
Obama, as disgusting as some of his policies are, has wound down wars, wound down the killing. He has not stopped all the killing, but McCain would still have us waging major battles in the middle east. The neocons want endless war.
I can’t believe that the readers of Before It’s News want endless wars. I would go so far to say it is not patriotic to want endless wars.
So, if the readers of BIN really want to be patriotic, they will seek to avoid endless wars, and will not vote for the neocons under any circumstances.
I have gone on record opposing the lack of regulation that the libertarians and Ron Paul want regarding the bankers. But with regard to peace, Ron Paul is absolutely correct. The neocons are dangerous. You don’t have to trust my words. Here is Ron Paul saying that very thing.
I have often believed that the liberal Democrats and the libertarians (who are still Republicans) should create an alliance for peace. Neither has to give up their core beliefs or even switch parties. But they have more in common in hating what the neocons stand for than they have in opposition! It is time.
Even the gun lobby should not support the neocons. I went hunting with my dad as a kid. But that alone would not allow me to support the neocons. It is one thing to shoot a shotgun, and quite another to lob nuclear weapons around the world. The gun lobby cannot embrace neocon madness! It is time.
I make this plea to the libertarians and patriots who want freedom here. Expose Obama where needed, but don’t lose sight of the ball. The ball’s direction is to keep the neocons out of power and that should be our most important cause.
You’re nuts.
So, Banderman, if you say I am nuts about 9/11, you should buy the book. It may change your mind.
No matter how Obama is?
Wait.
The birth certificate you mean, would get him Death Row.
You are comparing a birth certificate with the murder of over 3000 innocent people on 9/11? You have to understand just what evil took place on 9/11. I don’t know how old you are but surely that is imprinted in your mind. If it isn’t something is very wrong.
Obama’s worse than Bush.
Obama’s a total fraud.
He’s got no ID.
Shambhala, we have had more trouble with neocons of duel citizenship than we ever had with Obama. He had a US citizen parent.
From Wikipedia:
The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. A 2011 Congressional Research Service report stated that
The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term “natural born” citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “by birth” or “at birth”, either by being born “in” the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship “at birth”. Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an “alien” required to go through the legal process of “naturalization” to become a U.S. citizen.[1]
and:
Ted Cruz (born Rafael Edward Cruz in 1970) is a Republican United States Senator from Texas who has publicly expressed interest in running for president in the 2016 United States presidential election.[114][115] Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada,[116] to a “U.S. citizen mother and a Cuban immigrant father.” Although there are some uncertainties about the exact definition of “natural born citizen,” Professor Chin believes that Cruz “likely” qualifies for the office.[117]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen
and from the Cornell edu code:
(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years…
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
and:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
Gary here: As to the Cornell code, even if Obama was not born in Hawaii, his mother was a citizen, and lived two years in the US after the age of 14.
But you cannot prove that he was not born in Hawaii because an official of Hawaii said he was. Case closed.
We don’t know who Obama is.
That’s certainly not his real name.
I don’t know who Obama is.
No doubt. Can anyone possibly see the video of Bushy Tushy in that classroom on 9/11 and tell me that wasnt an entirely feigned reaction. George Bush’s vacuous look didnt translate well to acting. One need look no further than that to know that Bush Is NWO. They got Barack In there because hes a genuine first degree liar…
Thanks for agreeing about Bush. My view regarding Obama is that he was strongly controlled by the neocons until the second term. He lied for Bush, maybe under threat. But he has quietly replaced the neocon generals with generals who are slow to war.
That could end up being the most important accomplishment of his presidency.
i’m gonna pop so popcorn,, stay back in the cut ,, sit this dance out..
good luck ,gary.. don’t take it personal.. an come back often.. i do like your passion an fight..
by-the-way.. i’m a major 9/11/01 false flag fan.. it was my hobby for months..
9/11 was the grandpappy to get all that came & that’s coming rolling.. patriot act , dhs , tsa ,wars collapse false flag , obama shoe in ect.. hang in there..
Thanks for your grudging encouragement Grubby!
Gary you have as usual a small part of a big thing right, and all the rest is wrong as usual……..
You poor lost soul, (((THEY ARE ALL BAD))), AND Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Silverstein, they could not of gotten away with it with out LEFT cover as well as the right, ITS GLOBALISM THAT’S THE DEVIL IN THE DETAILS AND THEY ARE ALL IN ON IT THERE IS NO GOOD GUY OR BETTER GUY.
mac jam’s locked on.. that saying ‘vote for lesser of two evils ‘ is still a vote for evil..
really can you imagine if bush/cheney did what cool hip slick obama got done.. then can you imagine how bad things would be if McCain was potus or romney ( by-the-way where is he ) ..
it’s all planned an picked.. what one party can’t do the other can..
side note:: the past election votes where tallied in spain.. a counting firm called STYCL or SYCTL whatever ,, they offshored the vote.. sowhatwhocares..
LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT DOWN THE DRAIN WE GO AND AS WE GO SO GOES THE WORLD!!!!!!!!
AND IT SEEMS NO ONE CAN SEE IT, EVERYONE THINKS THERE SIDE IS THE GOOD SIDE.
And they fight to get there less evil guy in and then they protect them as being less evil than the other guy it’s Friggen Ridiculous.
Mac, I never said there was a better guy. I have said many times that there is the lesser of two evils and that this is a crucial distinction for world peace.
Crabby, Obama is evil and Hitler was evil. Obama has my vote every time. Be real.
Mac, there are two arguments that the Republicons make and most people on this website have swallowed. First, by saying they are no more evil than Obama, the neocons hope to come to power again. Second, the bankers want to share the blame for the housing bubble with the borrowers, and thereby lower their chances for jail. But it is mostly the bankers’ fault as most home buyers were not speculators. Only a few were. Most had no clue the housing market would crash.
But that is what evil people do, try to share the blame. And you swallowed it Mac.
I swallowed WHAT YOU FOOL it’s like you make assumptions based on nothing your the one who has swallowed HOOK LINE AN SINKER you advertise it almost daily.
And i don’t have room here to explain in detail the SO CALLED HOUSING BUBBLE but again
(((((IT WAS DONE ON PURPOSE))))) just like every thing else its a move to crash the entire monetary system and (FOR A FEW TO GET UNGODLY RICH) move to WORLD GOVERNMENT and if you would do research beyond NEWS WEEK articles or any of your other favorite propagandist you might know this.
Like Ron Paul, Peter Schiff was predicting the 2008 economic meltdown long before it occurred. Schiff is the president of Euro Pacific Capital, a firm that pursues investment strategies based upon Schiff’s contrarian economic analysis. Clients who took his advice over the past decade did very well, even after the financial crisis.
Both Paul and Schiff are proponents of the Austrian school of economics, which emphasizes free markets, sound money and Carl Menger’s subjective theory of value. Asked to describe what the “Austrian school” is, Schiff quipped, “It’s kind of like you’re asking me ‘What’s Science? Or what’s astronomy, because you believe in astrology. Austrian economics is (((ECONOMICS))). Keynesianism is like a witch doctor. It’s all a bunch of nonsense, but politicians love Keynesianism, because it justifies what they want to do to get elected, which is spend more money, promise something for nothing, play Santa Claus.”
Schiff was Ron Paul’s economic advisor during the 2008 campaign.
And although i disagree with Schiff on the reasons behind Keynesianism and the reasons behind all bubbles and crashes i do agree that the Austrian school of economics, IS ECONOMICS. And you Sir should look into GLOBALISM IT IS YOUR REAL ENEMY
and BUSH CLINTON BUSH OBAMA HAVE ALL JUST BEEN TAKING US THERE
with the help of NEOCONS on one side and PROGRESSIVES on the other and The Federal Reserve bank along with Goldman Sachs and all the giant mega banks ITS A PLAN FOOL
Just like Pinky and the Brain WORLD DOMINATION
Mac, get ahold of yourself. Don’t call me a fool. I learned many years ago that the housing bubble and crash were premeditated. I know that the bubble was caused by the central banks adopting the Gaussian Copula that did not take into account that all mortgages could go bad at the same time. It was thought up by Li at JP Morgan. And then the central bank adopted it, off balance sheet banking, and derivatives trading without limitations.
While I personally think the NWO already exists, with the banksters in the background, I agree with you on the rest of it.
I know who Peter Schiff is and I knew of the housing bubble because I lived in Reno, Nv at the time in 2005, long before Schiff started talking about it.
I am tired of being accused of being stupid by a bunch of grouchy characters who have fallen for the Republican mantra that both parties are exactly the same.
Yes, both parties were involved in the housing bubble but the Republicans sponsored it. The most crucial characters in the housing bubble were Republican, Greenspan, Phil Gramm, Wendy Gramm, and Henry Paulson. There were plenty of Democrats in on it like Ruben, Geithner, Clinton, etc.
There is a problem with BOTH Austrian economics and Keynesian economics. Austrian economics is the economics of austerity, holding to the idea that depressions are ok. But they are not ok. They are a way for the wealthy to get even more wealthy. Some depressions are shortlived and not as serious, like the 1921 depression. But other depressions are credit based depressions and they linger a long long time.
As for the Keynesians, you cannot have all the stimulus go to the top. The banks have to lend into the economy and if they don’t we need state banks to fund the local banks as Ellen Brown has called for. Keynes only works where there is regulation of the bankers especially with regard to speculation. Now there is no regulation of our banksters with regard to hoarding and futures speculation at all. Keynes won’t work now as most of the money actually goes to raise the cost of living while wages stagnate.
I hope that clears up my position, Mac.
When you say i am Republican and i fell for this or that. THAT’S just one of the things that makes me call you a FOOL just where do i say i am a Republican I fight with Republicans daily. Its like we are not even talking on the same level its like you are talking to someone else. You take my attacks on Obama and Liberals as support for Republicans now its true that philosophically i do align more closely with the right side of the modern political spectrum, but i am more Jeffersonian Constitutional Conservative Libertarian than anything else and i believe that would of made me a liberal in those days. I also believe that the richest Country on Earth should not have a health care system that says if you are rich you live and if you are poor you die so again i part ways with both Republicans and Libertarians. And on health care we in this Country don’t even have health care we have chronic illness care it makes you sick and keeps you sick all to make a buck thanks to our Food and Drug Administration being in bed with drug companies and the for profit Health care system in general. I also think that in the wealthiest country in the world or any country for that matter, that no one should have to worry about paying for an education befitting your ability so again i part with Conservatives of pretty much every stripe. But i do not believe in taxing citizens into oblivion and i think the system is so corrupt and so far gone and has long ago left, “for the people by the people” in the dust that i think it is time to start over. School from kindergarten to the highest University education is a psyop, all media from news to television to print and movies is a psyop Government is a psyop everything in every day life is a psyop all designed to manipulate and steer the masses Social Engineering. I spend a lot of time arguing with so called Conservatives who are so dumb they just want to kill every one they are so misled they think if we only had Bush back every thing would be just hunky dory i sometimes get so many people on certain chat sites so mad at me the system gets clogged because everyone is trying to curse me out at the sometime. I also argue with Liberals who are also so dumb that if you put a good name on a bill they will vote for it and demonize anyone apposing it. You could have a bill called MAKE EVERY ONE A MILLIONAIRE BILL and the Bill in the fine print legal ease would say just kill everyone who is not a millionaire and if you tried to tell them that they would call you a racist or bigot or a fascist that just doesn’t want them to be rich. That’s why i believe in a Constitutional Republic but we just pay ours lip service when it suits the political moment modern politics on every side are either a angry lynch mob or people who have just shut down and do not even participate. Irrationality is the name of the game nowadays people are all to far gone.
YES I AM A CYNIC AND A CURMUDGEON
Ok Mac, you are like me. You have a more complex view of things than the average guy who just spouts talking points. I get that.
I said attack Democrats where they deserve to be attacked, but at the end of the day realize the party that murdered the most people and the most Americans, is Republican. That is all I am saying.
The Dems p**s me off every day. But the alternative is much worse.
As far as libertarian is concerned, I think banks should be regulated. Lighten up on regulation for other industries, but banks should be regulated. Can you imagine a monopoly game where the banks own most of the properties? That is what we have.
But I get where you are. You are wanting to start over. That is a revolution requirement, to start over. I think that in a system as we have that would not be such a good idea, because we are more interdependent than those in Jefferson’s times. But I see you are frustrated. I get that.
I believe people have to be informed. That is what drives me to share my views.
Include abortion and destroying a race of people not to mention eugenics (Margaret Sanger)is pretty much a left wing concept and then where are you in a body count. The republicans have only been world class bad since old man Bush. And that bank regulation thing you keep talking about Libertarians want to “End the Fed” and the giant Mega Banks should not even exist so again i do not see what you mean when you say libertarians don’t want to regulate banks under a libertarian system things would be so different as to be unrecognizable from its current form its like in the beginning of Windows overlying it on Dos it didn’t work right same analogy. I have never herd of a libertarian saying not to regulate banks quite the contrary Glass Steagall for instance Ron Paul says repealing Glass Steagall was one of the worst things ever to happen it turned banking into a funding system for investment gambling and speculation, along with tons of other deregulation that let banks go hog wild so again i say which libertarians are you speaking of, the anarchist branch? That does not even really exist i have never met one in real life they only exist in the media to scare people away from forming a third party.
I look at abortion as something that is wrong from a personal standpoint. But I also believe separation of church and state trumps the need for draconian abortion laws.Women will get them, safely or not.
As far as Eugenics is concerned, I wrote an article about Romney who is even closer to Eugenics than is Obama:
http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romney-is-moving-close-to-eugenics-and-really-bad-beliefs-2012-9
It is more likely that unifiers won’t go for Eugenics to the extreme as much as dividers like Romney and the Republicans.
Obama and the Democrats the great UNIFYIER’s HA HA HA HA HA thats FRIGGEN GREAT I WANT TO CALL YOU THAT NAME AGAIN WHAT A ********
Ah Mac, you have to keep the lesser of two evils thing in play. I know Obama has a guy in his employ who is into Eugenics and population control. I am not stupid.
But again, which party is more likely to act out it’s wishes for superiority? I would tend to think the Republicans are more willing to do so based upon their historical track record. Romney caught talking about the 47 percent pretty much proves that.
Obama is false flagging Syria, to get to Iran for Israel and the Bankers and it will draw in Russia & China, they are killing Christians with American weapons and funding(And i am not a Christian). WW3 is imminent race war imminent financial collapse imminent probably as soon as November. And you still think there is not a MASTER PLAN? and that dumb bit about Romney whom i happen to think is bat poo crazy is about the only thing he said i agreed with and the fact that you think its a scandal proves you are Liberal MSNBC watcher explaining your complete BLINDNESS to REALITY
I will continue to pop in and harangue your foolishness from time to time but its a waist of my time to debate you because and yes once again, YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That may be true. Those emails are disturbing that reveal the intent in January. But Syria is not NYC.
The problem with your argument is that there are Democrats that are neocons and support these policies. You know, Liebermann, Pelosi, Obama, Schumer, etc, etc… Obama has wound down the wars? Why don’t you tell that to the people of Libya and Syria.
These lesser of 2 evils argument are no longer viable. WE ARE SICK OF IT!!! Stalin wasn’t as bad as Hitler. Give us a break. We could not have gotten in this position without the collusion of both parties.
Why don’t you take this crap to DU….
I totally understand what you are saying. However, the generals have been put into place who oppose military action against Iran. That is crucial.
nope obama’s government is the worst we have ever had
No, the false flag government on 9/11/2001 cannot be topped for being worst. It is the worst and will likely always be the worst.
Pearl Harbor- false flag- democrat
Murrah Building OKC- false flag- democrat
Gulf of Tonkin- false flag- democrat
TRY AGIAN….
I guarantee you that a democrat would not have done 9/11.
That’s an opinion. 3000 Men died at Pearl Harbor as well. Yes, a democrat would do a 911.
Elect Republicans and your chances for WW3 increase massively.
Republicans = WW3
Democrats = 25,000,000 illegal immigrants will be granted American citizenship with all the benefits. Police agencies across the county will become fully militarized. The US Constitution and it’s amendments will be nullified. Non citizens can become president…WW3
Choose your poison….
I wouldn’t choose the Republicans if I were you. At least we buy time that way.
Exactly… now everyone live with the consequences of GWB AND Dick. Cheney’s act.
I agree, and we now have information that Bitam Defense Corporation could have been setting up or at least considering false flag gas attacks in Syria. We need to get out of the middle east. Period.
Sorry, Britam Defense.
For decades I have wanted a third independent party…but then I realized these blood-suckers would take that over too. Back to the lesser of two weevils….if our votes even count anymore…which I highly doubt…especially since Bush’s main campaign contributors company got the contract to count my states’ votes.
Hmmm….wonder my state is ALWAYS on the news in every election for problems……hmmm…….wonder which presidents brother was governor at the time this company got the contract…..hmmmmmm……….
HMMM wounder if anyone gets into high office without approval from the powers that be HMMM
I doubt it Mac. But there are some differences still. Hey, you want to get involved? Email this damn private defense company, Mac:
/war-and-conflict/2013/08/i-sent-this-email-to-britam-defense-who-emailed-about-a-syrian-false-flag-2447766.html
And tell your friends to do likewise!
Gary You don’t get it, probably never will.
And i should probably not be so hard on a disabled person such as yourself.
You have a terrible affliction CONGENITAL LIBERAL DISORDER and i don’t think its curable.
But i have herd it can be treated so maybe there is hope.
boy are you confused.
Hay Anonymous; Why did you change photo’s? i thought your last avatar photo was really good
Hey anonymous, I suggest you read this. Obama is the only leader in the free world not hot for war:
/obama/2013/08/are-france-britain-and-turkey-the-new-neocons-calling-for-syrian-intervention-obama-says-no-2454830.html
Wake up people.
Hey Obatron…Obama
is getting ready for war in Syria now…and says he likes shipping them arms.
BTW Y..Ill talk 9/11…and i will also talk Gulf Oil Spill ..that was an Obama FF that has already killed more people than 9/11 with all the CoreXit spraying and oil contamination..
remembe all the turn downs of help and they are still spraying…but whose counting when your in love with Barry right????
Sorry, No Spin, we have to agree to disagree. I guess the only way to prove what I am saying is by the outcome. I hope for a peaceful outcome and no troops on the ground. Yes, I have no doubt the rebels have been shipped arms.
The lesser evil – that’s how he got his second term. “The Lesser Evil” – nice legacy – look good on a plaque wheresoever. I mean, that’s a slogan we can all get excited about – a rallying cry.
But I can’t see the youngsters who put him in, bothering to vote for the next one.
No, you may be right. The next election may have a Republican neocon, the worst of two evils, and we will have WW3. Be sure to register to vote for WW3.
obama is intentionally destroying America as a would leader. Who ever fills that void will be a lot worse than the USA ever was.
obama the destroyer is intentionally destroying our economy.
When he is done transforming the USA he will go down in history as the worst president ever.
The one who led us into a time of despair.
W got the ball rolling, plus he started dreadful wars that Obama wound down. Again, Obama is holding back major war in the middle east. Hopefully he won’t adopt the shelling, but maybe Russia would tolerate that. I don’t know. Russia will not tolerate US soldiers on the ground.
The objective of the Obama ADMIN all along has been
to kill the DOLLAR and I think that time has finally arrived
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_I67IQmKTk#t=42
That’s not to say that killing the DOLLAR has been there only objective
That’s just a means to a BEGINNING of the end of the UNITED STATE OF AMERICA.
And the beginning of a
GLOBAL SCIENTIFIC OLIGARCHICAL TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT.
What a mouth full aye
Obama is a dog all dems are dogs and all republicans are dogs
When the flock are you people going to see that
Want change QUIT PAYING TAXES AND START RIPPING OFF THE SYSTEM ALL U CAN