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Obscure Scotus Case Pending: Obama Could Take Out US Constitution In One Fell Swoop (Scary)
You can’t make this stuff up, a federal case making its way through the Supreme Court is anything but a work of fiction. In fact, many people including Ted Cruz, are saying this case is actually the federal government’s attempt to circumvent the United States Constitution in favor of U.N. Treaties and International Law.
There is a reason why the United States flag is always to be place above any other flag that hangs with it. Sovereignty. Our sovereign powers must always take precedence over any UN treaty, world court or European desires about what we do here in our country.
Attorney General Eric Holder, currently has Justice Department attorneys advancing an argument at the Supreme Court that could allow the feds to invoke international treaties as a legal basis for policies that conflict with the U.S. Constitution.
The case, Bond v. United States, involves a woman charged with violating the international ban on chemical weapons because she used toxic chemicals to harass a former friend who had an affair with her husband. While this may seem like an odd case to get involved in, especially at a federal level, its outcome has far-reaching repercussions.
Under the Constitution, most cases like this would be handled at a state or local level; but by inserting themselves into this case, and prosecuting the woman under the Chemical Weapons Convention Implementation, the Federal Government is attempting to by-pass the Constitution in favor of international law.
What this women is accused of doing is no doubt a crime; but for the federal government to step in and charge her based on an international treaty, is not only unconstitutional, but it has far-reaching consequences that some say could affect every single person in this country.
Before giving a speech on the issue, Senator Ted Cruz earlier today told the Washington Examiner, “The Constitution created a limited federal government with only specific enumerated powers.” … “The Supreme Court should not interpret the treaty power in a manner that undermines this bedrock protection of individual liberty.”
In his speech, Cruz went on to warn that what the Federal Government is doing is not only “absurd” but it “could be used as a backdoor way to undermine” Second Amendment rights, and other areas of the Constitution.
Why Would the Justice Department take such a seemingly arbitrary case?
In my opinion, this case is anything but arbitrary. If the Justice Department wins this case, U.N. Treaties and international laws could be used to abolish pretty much any part of the Constitution. The very fact that they are arguing for the right to use these international treaties as a way to sidestep the U.S. Constitution, in my opinion, tells you exactly why they took the case to begin with.
I mean come on, it’s not like this woman is exactly a terrorist mastermind. She put a chemical in the muffler of a car that was owned by a woman who had an affair with her husband. Stupid yes; but did the federal government really have to charge her with violating an international treaty? Or is this an attempt to make these international treaties the law of the land?
Should the DOJ win, they will have landed another major blow against the Constitution, and against State Rights. And with that win, these treaties could be used to argue against everything from your second amendment right to own a firearm, to your right to own property in this country.
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the federal government has long since forgotten the limitations of it’s territorial jurisdiction. the constitution FOR the united states of America spells it out precisely!
why does no one challenge jurisdiction??? the feds have ZERO jurisdiction in this case!
Exactly right, the Federal government’s reach extends only within the boundaries of the District of Columbia, all Federal employees, and territories such as Puerto Rico. All executive orders from any president have these same limitations, they can only be enforced as law in the above three areas and persons.
Has anyone ever visited a Federal building in any city in the United States of America? Why do you suppose these buildings have cameras on the outside and on the inside, armed guards, secure parking, metal detectors at every entrance, perimeter spikes and barriers, and require a valid identification to enter? It is because this is a Federal building under all of the draconian executive orders that have ever been issued by any president. I feel really sorry for those who are Federal employees, they are in a lifetime prison with no parole, even when they retire they receive their pensions which makes them subject to the Federal government. A sovereign state or local county building has very few, or perhaps none of the above security measures, and the employees are not under executive orders.
If the Supreme Court rules in favor of this, it is only going to affect Federal employees and the buildings they work in, territories such as Puerto Rico, and those living within the boundaries of the District of Columbia. All a ruling will do will put the above in a tighter box.
It is all just a kabuki dance. The POTUS has the power NOW to institute Martial Law in the case of national emergency. And he has been quietly removing any military brass that won’t go along with arresting, imprisoning or executing American citizens under such a scenario. So don’t get caught up in Constitutional jurisprudence, or the Separation of Powers, because none of it has any efficacy anymore. Overt dictatorship is coming very soon. Cling to Jesus, He will get you through the Great Tribulation, and the reign of the Antichrist.
I can’t tell you what I am thinking because it would get me into trouble but let me say it is not good and I have never thought of it before no matter who the president was but now I am and hope it happens.
I will say it. The traitors that took this case to the supreme court are traitors and they should be put against a wall and shot.
Yup, it’s treasonous. Any outcome is null and void according to the Constitution. If SCOTUS is really SCOTUS (which we know it isn’t) then they will throw the case out.
Trying to get a treasonous act under the pale of law is doubly treasonous.
Holder and Obama’s actions are liken to making war on the Republic. The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land. To say that a Treaty could change it contra to Article V is just wrong. To advocate that the Constitution could be changed in violation of Article V is treason. Reid v. Covert is the precedent setting case whereby the Supreme Court affirmed the Supremacy of the Constitution over ratified treaties. Moreover, Reid v. Covert found that American Citizena do not lose the rights afforded under the Bill of Rights when traveling or residing outside the confines of the Continental United States. Consequently, Holder and Obama are guilty of murder because they killed US Citizens overseas without the citizen being charged with a crime.
Lets be very clear about the ramifications of Holder and Obama’s actions to abrogate the Constitution. Such an act will result in a civil war. Congress has the duty to stop the treasonous activities of this administration. I am but one citizen expressing my opinion while I can. But, there are legions behind me. Let not this time in history result in the demise of America by two African American citizens. How ironic that the Democratic party is finally getting its revenge after losing the civil war. More ironic is that the party is using the very race that the Republicans fought so hard to free from slavery.
Arm up and get ready.
If you haven’t already, you are going to be in for a world of hurt-soon.
“beware the wrath of a patient man”
Semper Fi.
It was my understanding that the Supreme Court ruled years ago that treaties superseded the Constitution.
I may have misheard that.
A treaty, once ratified by the Senate, supersedes federal and state law, and federal and state law must be amended to agree with the treaty. It has never been the case that treaties supercede the Constitution.
Throughout all of human existence constitutions, rules, laws, customs, etc. come and go at the pleasure of the person(s) with the biggest stick. The universe is dynamic, and so is the context in which humans live. It appears that the US is well underway for some fundamental changes to its constitution. The citizens just aren’t aware of it yet, still clinging to an illusion that the old rules still apply, but the ruling faction is already functioning under a clandestine construct that will soon displace the foundation of the republic!
The success of the installation of the new format depends on the psychological characteristic that, for whatever reason, most humans tend to cede to authority. With authoritative reinforcement, not necessarily violent, popular resolution seems to settle at around 90% compliance!
A new world is upon us. Be brave!
“Boxed in Freight – writes…
Exactly right, the Federal government’s reach extends only within the boundaries of the District of Columbia, all Federal employees, and territories such as Puerto Rico. All executive orders from any president have these same limitations, they can only be enforced as law in the above three areas and persons.”
Then, might it not be asked, what gives the President, as Commander in Chief, the right to send drones in pusuit of ‘terrorists’, into foreign sovereign territory (Pakistan for instance) yet argue Pakistan (or any other country) has no legitimate right to pursue enemies of it’s state into US territory?
The answer is quite simple. The Constitution may be suspended as and when the ruling body determines it to be appropriate. In times of war, or extreme national emergency, for instance. To claim the Constitution is somehow ‘carved in stone’, immutable, unchangeable, flies in the face of history. Senator Cruz is correct. The Constitution must be the supreme authority governing the actions of every administration. That it will continue to be ignored, misinterpreted, or misused by those in Washington who have other agendas, will remain a contradiction in law.
The US Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 is already a dead entry, thanks to Communist George Soros’ million$, complicit traitorous Congress, and nine unSupreme Court cowards. Let’s not forget GW Bush too when caught with his pants down on a constitutional issue: “It’s just a damn piece of paper.”
I just wish fellow posters would stop referring to Soros as a ‘Marxist’, ‘Communist’ or any other form of political colour. Soros is one thing and only one thing…. a globalist. A tool of the New World Order… a self deluded psychopath, who really does believe the Rothschilds will accept him as an equal? Soros will end in the gulag long before many of the great unwashed. He is a liability once they have won. Surely Soros has read the history of the Russian revolution?
The question he really needs to honestly answer is this; do they really see me as nothing but an expendable fool…? A ‘useful idiot’?
Your rational thinking has been affected by your surname.
They always call out Soros, and ignore Murdoch.. they are both Globalists, one hiding behind the Dem Donkey flag, the other behind the GOPPER Elephant flag…. Both are media mercenaries that created George Orwell’s Ministries of Propaganda…
and NEITHER is from the USA… one a BRIT Globalist, one an AUSSIE Globalist..
People may want to consider the reality that America from its inception, has always been like the Twin Towers of 9/11…. Built up, to be destroyed later. There is a hidden hand guiding this agenda, seemingly beyond human, that thinks in time frames that far surpass any of the longest long-term plans people think in… When one factors in the notion of how, hypothetically an astronaut could spend three days in a distant, clockwise orbit around earth and then return to earth to find that seven days had actually passed here on earth, while his/her watch shows only three days or 72 hrs. If you consider this concept on a vastly larger scale, then it becomes easier to contemplate how something outside of earth and earth time could look at the entire history of America as but a brief speed bump/ stepping stone towards bringing about something “it” perceives America’s necessary birth and destruction as but a step to further an ancient agenda. – only theorizing of course..
Absolutely correct davosurf…. ‘beyond human’… is the key to understanding our current problem.
Come on, people! Obama AND every appointee in D.C. – all appointed ultimately by the SAME PEOPLE: Rothschilds & Co. – have a crystal clear agenda: Fascist America and the Depopulation Agenda. Seriously, take a look; you don’t even have to bother with all the legal shenanigans like this one. Chemtrails that are full of toxins, almost all aimed at the human immune system. Vaccines that damage the immune system and cause other major problems, including CAUSING the disease they’re supposedly given to protect against. GMOs that now going to be injected with pharmaceuticals on top of what they do to the human digestive system. Cell phone radiation direct to the brain (when MK Ultra has learn to do a human brain “entrainment” with a 30 second microwave exposure that permanently alters mood, any number of other things. HAARP, now KNOWN to be able to make people feel ill to the level of incapacitation, not to mention multiple other effects. The food supply in America has been reduced to almost nothing;one real disaster and tens of millions – at minimum! – will starve while the rest poison themselves with the GMOs that are all that remains. Microwave towers everywhere, which have been known since the 60′s to cause cancer, while microwave ovens destroy the food value of food cooked in them, and alter others to become toxic. Organics and health, living raw foods are constantly under attack by the Federal Government, which insists such things, which have nourished humans since the beginning, are BAAAAD for us, so the FDA and CDC are driving such farmers, or even just your neighbors, out of business as fast as they can do it! Look at medicine: we KNOw the pharmaceutical paradigm is DEAD wrong! SSRIs cause young children especially to become suicidal/homicidal, and now it’s clear that young adults are also damaged in this way by as well as in oother ways. Statin drugs kill or damage their share, and the list just goes on and on.
Then there’s our militarized police force all over the country. They hire THUGS, very often despite a history of violence. Per Norm Stamper, former Chief of Police in Seattle during the World Trade Conference there, says police are being conditioned to see “civilians” (which police are too; only military are not) as The Enemy! Ordinary citizens are more and more frequently ATTACKED, beaten, tased, even murdered outright before witnesses while the police usually suffer NO consequences. There’s So much more, but no room here, so just consider all of the attempts by the Obama (illegal, illegitimate) government to tear down our Constitutional rights, over and over and over again! perhaps one of the worst thing, though, is our complicit news media – the “elite” owned MSM. Anything we get we get LATE, and too often totally wrong. Most Americans have no idea what’s been going on! Obama himself is a usurper who had his background “sanitized” enough to get him elected, whereupon he classified every record from his life that he could. He attacks whistleblowers who bring information to light that shows a VAST organizations within our government that are there apparently solely to bring Americans under control and get them used to dictatorial abuse by the government. The NSA has decided that patriots are likely terrorists while Obama violates the NDAA (he’s immune to the law – ANY law, like any other dictator) and supplies al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood! We have a known criminal, immune to the Law as well, as our Attorney General! Meanwhile Obama keeps firing anyone who might inconvenience him, like those last 7 high-ranking military who are loyal to their oaths. Can’t have that, apparently. Folks, Americans, if not America, are at WAR! We are and have long been under a constant, clandestine attack that becomes more and more open as the usurpers grab more and more power without paying any consequences.
WE. ARE. UNDER. ATTACK!!!
If hose we elected and hired to protect the Constitution, our laws, our institutions and citizens are NOT going to do the jobs they were hired by We the People to do, then we are empowered to institute an better government BY THE CONSTITUTION! Time is running out, as is our health, the sabotaged U.S. infrastructure and our freedom to act as we see fit! Thomas Jefferson once said that if you need help to interpret the Constitution, look first to the Declaration. It’s very, very clear:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”
“…whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government…” I’d say we’re long past that point. This is not “our” government; it has been bought and corrupted by the wealthiest of the wealthy who believe that the Earth and everything and everyONE on it belongs to them. Per them, we have gotten out of line so it’s time to remove 90% or so of us. Personally, I disagree, and I have no intention of cooperating with these lying, murdering, psychopathic thieves! Over and over again Obama has expressed his contempt and lack of understanding of almost everything American, and he has shown that contempt in his usurpation of the office and of the Law itself, as in this case. He has already BEEN impeached, and convicted EVERY TIME, but no one in the government who is supposed to have the authority to ACT on it will do so. The current illegitimate “government” is stocking up, arming up, they have their prisons – concentration camps – built allover the country and connected by trains, no less! Our own people in the police, the military and other organizations have been conditioned and armed against us, and in cases where they simply will not follow such clearly illegal, murderous orders, troops have been imported, hidden, and constantly drilled for raiding, disarming and emptying entire cities. Depopulation.
To quote a well-known Englishman it’s gotten down to bedrock, and the situation is now: “To be or not to be; that is the question.” we’d damned well better have our answer and be ready to go with it, else it will answer itself and we will have NO voice at all. Ever again.
Wow, Anon, I really appreciate your rant and agree with every word of it. It’s good to know that not everyone has their head in the sand protecting their ‘free stuff.’ I am waiting for a revolt to jump into and I probably have a very long wait.The repugnants will not help us, they intend to avoid making waves because if they do, they might lose the prominent positions that were guaranteed them in the NWO.
Oh, you have just made Obama’s poopy list, like myself. Welcome aboard.
This is immediately about the UN small arms treaty signed by John Kerry only weeks ago. If this particular suit gets decided wrongly by the supremes, we WILL lose all of our firearms. All rules and regulations for firearms would then be handed down by the united nations,literally a cadre of our dire enemies, will tell us what to do with our weapons. I agree with Frank95054′s comments below, this will lead to civil war…
As an outsider, but a student of American history, I really don’t see the parallel between today and 1859-61, when the Civil War was fomented. America was a much more homogenus society, mainly rural and certainly not a consumer society as we know it today. There were no centralised utilities or food production systems. Self reliance was essential to survival. The railroads, equivalent to our highways, were developed as a necessity of war. Likewise the telegraph. If you check the history, the Confederate cavalry spent more time cutting telegraph lines and ripping up rail tracks than almost anything else. Gettysburg was lost because of it.
The fighting that’s going on in Syria, is indicative of what would happen in any Large US city. Fighting in any built up area is referred to as a ‘troop burner’, by military planners. If the civilians were left without significant assets to prosecute the war, unlike the Syrian rebels who are supplied by the Saudis and Israel, not to mention all the covert western assistance, then there will be no civil war, but a bloody, short lived masacre. The Libyan uprising would have failed without NATO air intervention. The question is; would the Guard step up to the plate and back the ‘rebels’ or would its ‘federalized’ command retain control.
The issue of command and control has not even been considered. The federal forces will have jam resistent, encoded signal systems – probably with satellite servers, which the rebels will find impossible to interfer with. The rebels will lose all communications, except by hand delivered note, in the first minutes of the war. Once the power supplies to water systems, lighting and sewerage are turned off, things will indeed look bleak.
The federal forces will have the most sophisticated medical systems in areas well away from the fighting. possibly in Canada. The rebels will be lucky to survive even minor wounds. The ‘fortunate’ ones will die quickly. But, apart from all this, what about the basements full of terrified children and mothers? The federal forces will only need to turn off the power, and within 36 hours, most centers of resistence will collapse. More than 2 million Syrians have fled to neighboring countries when faced with such realities of war.
I caution those who speak so lightly about civil war, to be careful what they wish for… Pirric victories are always to be avoided, where possible. I don’t see the so called FEMA camps as prisons… they will have been constructed as ‘safe havens’.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. HAS NO AUTHORITY TO SUSPEND, TAKE OUT, OR RESCIND THE U.S. CONSTITUTION. –
Any idea that any president – let alone Pres. Obama could “take out” the U.S. Constitution is absolutely ludicrous.
The only thing that President Obama and/or any of our representatives can UNLAWFULLY do is violate, usurp and ignore the Supreme Rule of Law. No law, Act or any other venue can disband, suspend or dissolve the constitution.
The ONLY means to AMEND or RESCIND the U.S. Constitution is through an Article V action and ONLY an Article V proposed action of the U.S. Congress and the valid ratification of 3/4′s of the several States.
Article 5 – Amendment – -”The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.”
Folks … it’s this simple; the US Constitution is the supreme law of our land. There is no authority the UN has to override this compilation of laws. No US government official has the authority to suspend the Constitution in lieu of anything the UN may pass, and/or mandate compliance thereof. If there is any attempt whatsoever to forego the the Constitution and mandate outside authority over our nation we will have not only grounds for impeachment on the charges of sedition but also the duty and obligation to refuse to comply with any perceived authority ordering suspension of the Constitution and therefore we will have grounds for war. Whoever it is that is contemplating such a hostile takeover better read our national history again.
YOUR POLICE GANGS are now in charge of america, your US constitution is gone,OBOOZO has a new one he’s going to be using,YOU NEVER inforced the old one,so it was scraped,now you’ll get a new one weather you like it or not,thats the price of being a coward,SLAVE CAMPS and death,thats whats coming your way now….and the RUSSIANS and CHINESE, have been given everything you owned,to help…and when they KICK IN YOUR DOOR,just remember,you never lifted a finger to stop it…………….
Sadly Anonymous is correct. I don’t agree that no one lifted a finger to stop it, but it required more than just a finger to stop what was planned more than a century ago. It required the same level of ruthlessness shown by the enemies of civilization. Unfortunately, ‘we the people’ believed such behavior was ‘uncivilized’, and ‘the slippery slope to anarchy’.
As much as I disagree with Islam, I have to admit, they at least are prepared to die in the defense of what they believe to be right. America has now reached that point of decision.
over many dead bodies. and it is written that while many of us must die, in the end God and his followers will be victorious.
THEY NEED TO START PROSECUTING THESE PEOPLE FOR TREASON. ANYONE WHO WOULD DO THIS TO HELP CIRCUMVENT THE U.S. CONSTITUTION IS AN ENEMY OF THE STATE AND SHOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON AND PUNISHED.
The g to defeat American sovereignty. They want to erase over 200 years of freedom, individual liberty. Traitors put into power by Obama, are using every trick to make America subservient to powers working to kill individual liberty, and Constitutional Law. If Eric manages to seduce the Supreme Court to rule his way, the slide to a Socialist Dictatorship will progress at light speed. It is more imperative than ever we take complete control of Congress, the House and Senate. Do not evade your responsibility as a free American citizen. Be involved in the coming elections from vetting candidates, picking the right ones, working to elect them, and keep them aware of what they were elected to do. Do not stay on the sidelines and let freedom and liberty die.
Treaties do NOT supercede the U.S. Constitution. “Any Law that is repugnant to the U.S. Constitution is null and void”-Marbury v Madison, SCOTUS,(1803).