Veterans Urge Drone Operators to Refuse Orders to Fly

(Before It's News)

Vatic Note:   He is right, what these drones are doing is in violation of international law and the oath taken by these soldiers says he agrees to follow all LEGAL ORDERS…. which means he is not required to follow any illegal orders and these drone flights that murder people are illegal just because its not a fair fight, its murder, not war as defined by international law.

So we will see what these soldiers do.  If they refuse to follow illegal orders, they cannot be punished, kicked out of the service or had pay withheld.  If they do these drones on unarmed civilians, its even worse…. and we are not going to be passed up for such treatment and we better get that, and soon.  I am heartily encouraged by the fact that veterans are doing the encouraging, since that gives credence to the illegality of those acts of violence.

I am anxious to see how this turns out in the end.  Will our soldiers follow ALL ORDERS, or only those that are legal.  What I really like is that they listed all those signing the letter to stop these drone attacks.  I also like the fact that the Nuremberg trials are still a possibility under the still existing Nuremberg protocols. I guess we will find out sometime in the future. 

Veterans Urge Drone Operators to Refuse Orders to Fly
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/06/16/veterans-urge-drone-operators-to-refuse-orders-to-fly/
By  David Swanson, Veterans Tody,  on June 16, 2015

Letter Reinforces Call Made in National TV Ad Campaign
 by David Swanson  Hastings on Hudson, NY – An increasing number of United States military veterans are counseling United States military drone operators to refuse to fly drone surveillance/attack missions – the veterans are even helping sponsor prime time television commercials urging drone operators to “refuse to fly.”

In a letter released today by KnowDrones.com, 44 former members of the US Air Force, Army, Navy and Marines whose ranks range from private to colonel and whose military service spans 60 years, “urge United States drone pilots, sensor operators and support teams to refuse to play any role in drone surveillance/ assassination missions.  These missions profoundly violate domestic and international laws intended to protect individuals’ rights to life, privacy and due process.”
 
Among those signing the letter are retired U.S. Army Colonel Ann Wright, who resigned from her State Department post in 2003 over the U.S. invasion of Iraq, and former Marine Captain Matthew Hoh, who, in spite of pleadings by Obama Administration officials, resigned his State Department post in Afghanistan in 2009 in protest over U.S. strategic goals and policy there.

Also signing are former U.S. Army Captain and CIA official Ray McGovern; former U.S. Navy Lt. Barry Ladendorf, president of Veterans for Peace; and former U.S. Army Sgts. Aaron Hughes and Maggie Martin, co-directors of Iraq Veterans Against the War.
 
Speaking to the issue of disobeying military orders, the letter says: “Those involved in United States drone operations who refuse to participate in drone missions will be acting in accordance with Principle IV of the Principles of International Law Recognized in the Charter of the Nuremberg Tribunal and the Judgment of the Tribunal, The United Nations 1950,” that states:
 “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him of responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible.”

“The people signing this letter know that they are asking drone operators to take a heavy step,” said Nick Mottern, coordinator of KnowDrones.com, “but we feel it is perfectly legitimate to advise military people to stop taking part in illegal activity that has killed thousands without due process, is terrorizing thousands more and is wracking their own ranks with moral injury and PTSD.”

To advance the “Refuse to Fly” initiative, KnowDrones.com has been airing 15-second television commercials (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdmex_AA3I&feature=youtu.be) on CNN, FoxNews, MNBC and other networks in areas near drone intelligence and control centers in the U.S. The paid spots, the cost of which has been partially covered by members of Veterans for Peace, show the human toll of drone attacks and urge drone operators to refuse to fly. 
 
The ads have appeared in Las Vegas near Creech AFB and in northern California near Beale AFB. They are currently airing in upstate New York near Hancock Air National Guard base outside Syracuse and the Air Guard base near Niagara Falls; more showings will be scheduled soon elsewhere in the U.S. 

Below is the letter:  

RETIRED AND FORMER U.S. MILITARY PERSONNEL URGE DRONE OPERATORS TO REFUSE TO FLY MISSIONS
As retired and former members of the United States military, we urge United States drone pilots, sensor operators and support teams to refuse to play any role in drone surveillance/ assassination missions.  These missions profoundly violate domestic and international laws intended to protect individuals’ rights to life, privacy and due process.
 
At least 6,000 peoples’ lives have been unjustly taken by United States drone attacks in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, the Philippines, Libya and Syria.  These attacks are also undermining principles of international law and human rights, such as those enumerated in the United Nations International Declaration of Human Rights, written in 1948 under the guidance of Eleanor Roosevelt with the blood of the atrocities of World War II freshly in mind.  The United States is a signatory to this declaration. (VN: and they are listed on the right hand side of our blog along with the US bill of rights.)

Those involved in United States drone operations who refuse to participate in drone missions will be acting in accordance within accordance of Principle IV of the Principles of International Law Recognized in the Charter of the Nuremberg Tribunal and the Judgment of the Tribunal, The United Nations 1950:

“The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him of responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible.”
So, yes, you do have a choice – and liability under the law. Choose the moral one. Choose the legal one.
Signed:

• Kenneth Ashe E3 US Army Vietnam 1969 – 1971
• Wendy Barranco   SPC US Army 2003 – 2006
• Barry Binks E5 US Army 1964-1967
• Russell Brown CPL US Marine Corps 1966- 1968
• Ben Chitty PO2 US Navy 1965 – 1969
• Gerry Condon PVT US Army 1967 – 1969
• Bill Distler E5 US Army 1966 – 1968
• Arthur H. Dorland   YN3 US Navy 1964 – 1967
• Kelly Dougherty   Sgt. – E-5 US Army National Guard   1996 – 2004
• Jonathan Engle   SFC (E-7) US Army 2004 – 2013
• Mike Ferner HM3 US Navy 1969 – 1973
• Bruce Gagnon   SGT US Air Force   1971 – 1974
• Bill J. Gilson   AE2   US Navy   1954 – 1958
• Mike Hastie   E5 US Army 1969 – 1972
• Michael Hearington   E1 US Army 171^st Infantry 1970 – 1971
• Dud Hendrick CAPT US Air Force 1963 – 1967
• Herbert J. Hoffman   SPC3 US Army 1954 – 1956
• Matthew Hoh   CPT US Marine Corps 1998 – 2008
• Matt Howard   CPL US Marine Corps 2001 – 2006
• Aaron Hughes   SGT (E-5) Illinois National Guard  2000 – 2006
• Tarak Kauff   PVT   US Army Airborne Infantry   1959 – 1962
• Barry Ladendorf   LT US Navy 1964 – 1969
• Erik Lobo PO3 US Navy 1976 – 1982
• Maggie Martin   SGT E-5 US Army 2001 – 2006
• Kenneth E. Mayers   MAJ US Marine Corps Reserve 1958 – 1966 (active duty) 1967 – 1978 (Reserves)
• Ray McGovern   CPT US Army   1962 – 1964
• Nick Mottern     LTJG US Navy 1960 – 1963
• Carroll Nast CAPT US Air Force 1969 – 1979
• Tom Palumbo SGT US Army/US Army Reserve 1978 – 1992
• Bill Perry   US Army 101st Airborne/Tet Offensive 1966 – 1968
• Kyle Petlock   0-1 US Air Force 2000 – 2002
• Charles R. Powell   E4 US Air Force   1961 – 1965
• Doug Rawlings SPC4 US Army Vietnam 1969 – 1970
• John C. Reiger   SPC5 US Army 1959 – 1962
• Jovanni L. Reyes   SSG US Army 1994 – 2005 Active Duty. 2005 – 2007 Reserves
• Hannah Roberts   LT (03) US Navy 2009 – 2014
• Steven E. Saelzler   E1 US Army Vietnam 1969 – 1970
• Benjamin Schrader   E-4 US Army 2001 – 2005
• Chuck Searcy   E5 US Army 1966 – 1969
• Robert L. Stebbins   1stLT US Army 1956 – 1958
• Will Thomas E3 US Navy 1961 – 1963
• Cres Vellucci E-5 US Army Vietnam 1969 – 1971
• Zachary Wigham   SSgt. Massachusetts Air National Guard 2006 -2012
• Ann Wright Colonel US Army (Retired)

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