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The Pre-Tribulation Rapture lacks any clarity to ascertain that it may be a reality. Folks, it may well be that we are here until the end. Consider the following and you decide.
If there were to come a silent pre-tribulation rapture – why does Jesus Christ never mention it? What follows here explores that question – take a few moments and test the spirit and these scripture verses and you decide. Let’s start with why no mention of it in Matthew 24:29 where he could had said: ‘before’ the tribulation I will return for my people…but he says no such thing – not even close, in fact what he does say is, his return for his people is ‘after’ the tribulation…
Jesus looked ahead and said: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days…” Matthew 24:29 If what follows in verse 30 is in chronological order – “…then shall appear the sign of the Son of man…the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” Clearly, that is not silent or secretive as in verse 31 we know for certain it is not; furthermore He has returned after the tribulation for his elect.
Verse 31 – “And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather his elect (Saved Christians!) from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” This is much more then just the saved Christians as the angels are gathering “…from one end of heaven to the other.” This implies finality, a gathering of “all” saints.
When Jesus returns, at his coming, it will be the end. Jesus will have delivered (gather his elect) the kingdom of God, and punished with destruction the unsaved and all enemies – and this, we learn, is after he has been reigning! That may need confirmation for some as it should:
“Then cometh the end when he shall have delivereth up the kingdom to God (the elect) …when he shall put down all rule and authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet…” I Corinthians 15:23-26. The end comes after he reigns.
Revelation 1:9 John tells us he is our brother in the kingdom of God and the tribulation. Likewise, Paul refers to the tribulation and the kingdom of God as present tense as well:
II Thessalonians 1:4, 5 “in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure…that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer…” Paul is writing to them and responding to there “here and now” of that time by noting their enduring the tribulations and they are counted worthy of being in the kingdom of God.
The kingdom of God is a spiritual world where us mortals can not see anymore than we can see God or Jesus Christ.
So the kingdom of God is the spiritual world where the Holy Spirit is within us (Luke 17:21) and since his ascension Jesus has reigned over all power and authority from heaven in this spiritual kingdom of God.
If I tell you, ye will not believe…Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.” Luke 22:67, 69 this, on the day of the crucifixion and after three nights and three days Jesus rose from the dead in victory and forty days later he ascended to the right hand of the power of God.
“Who being the brightness of his glory…upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high…” Hebrews 1:3
“…when (time of crucifixion) he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty (God).
Hebrews 10:12, 13 “But this man (Jesus), after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand side of God; (v.13) From henceforth expecting til his enemies be made his footstool.”
These verses are saying: Right after Jesus was crucified, plus the forty days, He sat down on the right side of God and there He reigned from that time “…til his enemies be made his footstool.” In other words ‘til his enemies faced “judgment and destruction”.
Jesus Christ, “Who is gone into heaven (past tense), and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.” I Peter 3:22
Peter is saying that as a result of Jesus ‘currently’ reigning, they, in the ‘spiritual world’ were being made subject unto him, which is present tense. They were being made his footstool. This is an on-going process throughout the Christian era until ‘all’ enemies are under his feet. Clearly, Jesus is reigning victoriously now! He has throughout the Christian era in the ‘spiritual world’.
Let’s review the repetitive and ‘loud’ signs of Jesus’ only return: The seventh angel sounded a great sound of a trumpet; the last trumpet to sound is the trumpet of God. When Jesus returns and gathers the saints, there is judgment and the wrath of God befalls Satan and an unsaved world; for the day of the Lord, the great day of God, the last day is upon them all. The righteous, removed from God’s wrath on that day, will for “…ever be with the Lord”. (Nothing else is prophesised beyond forever, ever-lasting or eternity.)
I Thessalonians 4:16, 17 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
Matthew 24:31 “And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other”. There is nothing silent or secretive about what Paul or Jesus is telling us and they are telling us of the same event.
Another sign that gives continuity to this ‘day’ is the analogy about the hour, watching and not being caught off guard, this does not imply secretiveness, rather awareness:
Matthew 24:42, 43 “Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.” (Watch! Be aware!)
I Thessalonians 5:1, 2 But of the times and of the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourself know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.” (Paul’s vote of confidence that the Thessalonians know and are aware.)
Revelation 3:3 “Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.” (Again, watch and be aware!)
All three verses give a warning of awareness – and on what day? The day of the Lord!
In II Peter 3:10 Peter repeats Jesus, Paul and John and gives us more ‘loud’ information:
“But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt fervent heat, the earth also and the works therein shall be burned up.” This day (event) is anything but silent!
We have now read that on the day of the Lord there will be a great noise and we know that: “…he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet…” when we are gathered together. Paul tells when: “Then cometh the end when he shall have delivereth up the kingdom to God…” The end “is” the last day – The day of the Lord!
These verses together describe a continuous single event. When Jesus returns it begins the day of the Lord! The “ONLY” thing we are told that happens there after for the righteous is that the righteous (go) into life eternal… and so shall we ever be with the Lord…forever!
Christ Returns and takes Vengeance (Judgment) on the Unsaved
This is the beginning of the day of the Lord, the great day of God, the last day. Here it needs to be clarified that this “day” could be a prophetic day. Some theologians believe it to last any where from 5 months to a year. But let us not forget also that with Almighty God – anything and all things are possible so it may very well be a 24-hour day.
Matthew 25:46 “And these (unsaved) shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.” The end of the Olivet Discourse begins life eternal for the righteous.
Only the righteous (go) into life eternal while the unsaved go away into everlasting destruction, the day of the Lord is wrath and judgment and when it is over, it’s forever! Nothing more is prophesied to happen.
Jesus says when he returns; He will judge the sinners and remove all sin from “…the presence of the Lord.” Think on this, if Jesus has removed “ALL” sin – it will never appear again. So it cannot re-appear in any form ever again (like the end of a future millennium).
II Thessalonians 1:7, 8, 9 “…when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord…”
Jesus Christ returns on the last day and the world sees it and there is judgment and there is wrath from God, and this is, the day of the Lord the same as the great day of God and the last day.
Revelation 16:14-17 “…gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon…and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, it is done.” Done, there is no more time and note the repetitive signs (underlined).
The day of the Lord, is the great day of God, the last day, climaxes into Armageddon!
Revelation 10:5, 6, & 7 “And the (seventh) angel which I saw…And swear by him that liveth for ever and ever…that there should be time no longer…when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished…” Time is no longer as it is finished.
Revelation 11:15 “And the seventh angel sounded: and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.”
We represent the kingdoms of this ‘mortal’ world and we become glorified ‘immortals’ in the kingdoms of our Lord, which is the heavenly kingdom. In heaven there is no longer time, as Jesus will forever and ever reign in eternity, which is beyond (outside of) time.
Matthew 24:31 “And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet…”
I Corinthians 15:51, 52 “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet will sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.”
We shall all be changed is the same as become the kingdoms of our Lord and it happens when Jesus returns, once again, all these things are happening at the beginning of the day of the Lord, the great day of the Lord and the last day.
I Thessalonians 4:16, 17 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
Here, forever can mean forever, time ends and certainly the world sees it! Please take to heart that the message of Christ’s return is always loud and repetitive! Over and over again we read that Jesus, Paul, Peter and John mention the following: Loud sound, great noise, and trumpet sounds, all to alert us Jesus is returning! All indicate one event. The warnings to watch, the gathering of saints, the dead will rise, judgment takes place, sin removed, destruction and always ends with us going into everlasting life, life eternal, forever…
Don’t be deceived is a warning we read throughout the New Testament. It once again needs to be given. Today throughout the world of Christianity is a body of believers that sincerely believe that Jesus is going to return and save them from seven years of tribulation. I ask you, please reconsider what you have been told and re-examine the scriptures. Ask yourself why, if so important, why did Jesus never mention it? The Olivet Discourse has Jesus telling us all he will return for “us” and then there is judgment and “we” all are going into everlasting life with Him! Never a mention of a silent or secret rapture, nor a 7-year time period or that Jesus’ reign will be in the future.
There it is with clarity, Jesus returns once and amidst a lot of loud sounds.
Ah, common sense indeed
I would also like to add the following:
Jesus was extremely adamant about warning us not to be deceived in the end times (the times in which we live):
“And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.”
—Matthew 24:4
“For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”
—Matthew 24:5
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”
—Matthew 24:11
“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
—Matthew 24:24
Who was Jesus talking to? To the body of Christ of course, to believers. What time period was Jesus talking about? The final generation, the one that sees His return.
We know from the Scriptures that the Antichrist
will come with his great magic to deceive people. We also know that anyone who is deceived and receives the mark of the beast will suffer the full wrath of God and will end up in the lake of fire. So it is vital not to be deceived. Hence, we get repeated warnings from Jesus and the Apostles to not allow ourselves to be deceived.
So I ask this of those Christians truly seeking truth:
If Jesus is going to rapture the Church out of here before the Antichrist comes upon the scene, why then did He warn us so adamantly about being deceived? If Christians aren’t going to be around for the great deception, the great falling away, there would be no reason to warn them about it.
The truth of the matter is this: Jesus warned us because we WILL be here during the time of the beast, for Jesus prayed this to the Father:
“I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.”
—John 17:15
The truth is our faith my Christian brothers and sisters must be strong!
We must be able to stand against the wiles of the Devil
and his cohorts! It is only by the precious blood of Jesus and the words of our testimony that gives us victory of the Devil
!
If your faith is not firm, you will not be able to stand until the end. And only those who endure until the end are saved:
“But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.”
—Matthew 24:13
Therefore it is imperative that you study the Scriptures for yourself. Read, pray, and meditate upon the Scriptures. Search the Scriptures diligently and do not rely on what others say for many of them will be, and have been, deceived, by this doctrine of demons known as the pre-trib rapture theory.
It would do Christians of today well to consider what one of the greatest scientists of all time, Isaac Newton, said concerning the importance of Christians knowing the end time prophecies. Newton drew a parallel between how the learned Jews missed the first coming of the Messiah because they were deceived and how it will be no less possible for Christians to be deceived by the Antichrist. Newton said if God was angry with the Jews for not searching more diligently into the prophecies which He had given them to know Christ by, why should we think He will excuse us for not searching into the prophecies which He has given us to know the Antichrist by, for surely it must be as easy for Christians to be deceived by the Antichrist as it was for the Jews to reject Christ Newton postulated, saying it is as much our duty to endeavor to be able to know the Antichrist and avoid him as it was the duty of the Jews to know Christ and to follow Him. I agree with Newton here.
The study of eschatology should be no small matter to Christians today. But sadly, many Christians today are indifferent and apathetic to eschatology because of this false belief that they won’t be here when all hell literally breaks loose, and so they are severely ill-prepared for what is about to happen and therefore in grave danger.
This doctrine of demons known as the pre-tribulation rapture theory has bamboozled so many so-called Christians it’s no wonder Satan
has perpetrated this myth, for it serves his purposes greatly—the warnings of Jesus about not being deceived have fallen on millions of deaf ears
So am123 you say a Jesus is returning one day. I can gurantee he won’t since he didn’t exist in the first place.
Anyway you say this Jesus is going to return how will you know what this individuel will look like? It is clear that the picture that you have of Jesus as your avatar is not what he would look like. As a matter of fact if there was a reall Jesus it would be more then likely that he would be black are very tan. The oldest paintings of a Jesus are of a black man.
See here:
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Jesus/Jesus.htm
Yes, Jesus is real, and He is returning. This is what He looks like:
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
—Revelation 1:12-16
Truthseeker007 – You say you can ‘guarantee’ and and you have ‘facts’ If you choose to rely on them – that’s your choice – good luck with that…as I am sure ‘am123′ would testify…we do not ‘need’ the proof you seek – we have faith in our beliefs and through that faith comes spiritual discernment. That’s a concept, without faith, you could not possibly comprehend and there in, it appears, lies your doubts and your reliance upon ‘your’ so called ‘guarantees and facts’ of which, given the time to explore most likely would not hold up or you would have stated them…some unknown on a slanted website is neither proof but simply – someone other than you – opinion and by all means if that’s what you wish to believe – that’s your choice. We will continue to believe what Jesus Christ said.
But you can’t call it faith when there are shed loads of evidence that proves your religion is plagairised paganism. What you have is denial of reality.
Amen CS!
How many black Jews do you know?
The idea of the rapture came from a kid caught day dreaming instead of doing their chores. The excuse given was they had seen a vision of people literally being caught up in the air with Jesus. Which is a typical childish thing to do, both with the ridiculous excuse and with the literal interpretation of scripture.
What it actually is, is a misinterpretation, to be ‘caught up with’ something is to become involved with something, and air/sky/heaven in the bible is always an allegory for the mind, thought processes. So it’s actual meaning is ‘caught up with an idea’.
If it was literally only Christians caught up in the sky, how is that going to work?.. the giant invisible fairy story character is going to get out its giant invisible vacuum cleaner to suck up all the Christians?
Now that I would pay money to see. Good riddance to bad rubbish, the meek inherit the Earth… Atheists.
Pix – if you chose not to believe – that is your choice! There is no argument anyone can debate with someone that choses not to believe what is being debated.
If we attempted to debate wether man went to the moon – we would first have to agree that men exist; otherwise, a debate about whether man went to the moon is futile.
Your incoherent ramblings indicate you know little about what you don’t believe; which in and of itself actually makes sense, why would you be well versed in what you don’t believe?
NO