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Nephilim Cannabis, Tobacco Experts? Smoke and Fires of Hell Consuming the Earth! (Jaw Dropping Videos!)

Wednesday, February 5, 2014 16:04
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Were you aware that drugs, including cigarette smoking, the use of marijuana, and other recreational drugs are by far more evil than what you may have known?

For example, the fallen angels taught man how to make tobacco products, and may very well have taught Noah how to make wine.

But first, let’s look at what the Bible has to say about drug usage.

Drug Abuse In Scripture, Nephilim, and Widespread Corruption–Drugs Came From Fallen Angels

DRUG ENCHANTMENT

The Greek φαρμακεία pharmakeia (Sometimes φαρμακία)

‘DRUG MAGIC’

In the Greek Old and New Testaments, generally standing for the word, in Hebrew—כּשׁף kasháph the magical plant ‘off-cuttings’, a word used to describe the sorcery of the Old Testament Queen Jesebel, the apocalyptic Babylon, the Mother of Harlots (the N.T. GK. πορν -ᾧν porn -o) and ancient Nineveh as the “Destroyer” (ESV ‘betrayer’) of the families that ‘sold’, or, as the NLT states, ‘enticed’, or NIV translation, ‘enslaved’ the nations)

2 Kings 9:22 = Nahum 3:4, =  Rev. 17:5 / 18:23 KJV

Recorded in Scripture

As eventually to affect the whole of mankind—

‘For by the sorceries – φαρμακεία pharmakeia – ‘enchantment, or magic with drugs’—Were all nations deceived.’

Revelation 18:23

From the literal Greek ‘caused to err, led astray, a philter of deception’

Revelation 18:23The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived.

Although scholars have agreed that a literal interpretation of the Apocalyptic vision as outlined above is possible, it does not mean that every individual of the Apocalyptic age (end times, Revelation) is deceived by the toxic drink of the Harlot’s potion; rather, as with the Egyptians of the Exodus period (‘[That] would not believe anything by reason of the φαρμακείας pharmakeias’ the ‘drug enchantments)’ (Wisdom 18:13)), the nations are deceived as much by the ‘charm’ ‘trickery’ ‘spell’ of pro-drug abuse disinformatiom (sublimation* or psyche) and the contrasting ‘false religious teaching’ of the age than as much to any national (endemic) or individual drug-bondage alone.

(Note: Sublimation (psychology) modifying the natural expression of an impulse or instinct (especially a sexual one) to one that is socially acceptable’)

An example can be seen in Galatians 5:20—

‘The acts of a sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, (πορνεία porn -eia ‘harlotry/pornography’) impurity and debauchery, Idolatry and witchcraft (NKJV ‘sorcery’ from the Greek φαρμακία pharmakia ‘enchantment with drugs’)…hatred…jealousy…envy…orgies and the like’.

Galatians 5:19-21 (abridged) see NIV / KJV / Greek NT

No fewer than 30 further occurrences (including the Apocryphal references) in the Greek Old Testament (LXX) this ancient word φάρμακία, ‘drug enchantment’, generally translated ‘sorcery’ in the English versions, is further reciprocated in many of the Early Christian Writings.

Also, from the above, under ‘Witch, Witchcraft’ in the same Bible Encyclopedia:

The Fallen Angels/Nephilim

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‘And they [the fallen] taught charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made [men] acquainted with plants’

Enoch 7:1 Ethiopic, Translation by R H Charles 1912

In the ancient Ethiopic version of Enoch, which maps the original and last estate of the Fallen (the Hebrew ‘sons of God’ or, ‘gods’ at Genesis 6:1-4 (In the Greek LXX Alex. ‘Angels’) the phrase corresponding with the φαρμακεία pharmakeia or ‘drug magic’ of the Greek Enoch version, New Testament and other related Early Writings (New Testament / Septuagint / LXX Apocrypha) concerning spells, charms, drugs and magic in Scripture is:

‘[A]nd they [the fallen angels] taught charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, [the Old Testament כשף kashãph lit. ‘cuttings’, or magical plant ‘off-cuttings’ LXX / NT φαρμακεία pharmakeía ‘drug magic’] and made [men] acquainted with plants’.

Enoch 7:1 trans. R H Charles from the Ethiopic

Whether one sees these ‘angels’ as a Spiritual reality, or an ancient figure of natural or supernatural phenomenon, must, of course, remain with the reader.  Drug Abuse In Scripture Website

The New Testament cites the fallen Watchers as sinful angels (see 2 St. Peter 2:4, and Jude 1:6.) afterward trapped in the the underworld prison of Tartarus (τάρταρος, 2 St. Peter 2:4 Gk) awaiting the final judgement (the Great White Throne). (Enoch 10:12 coincides with Revelation 20:11-12).

The Nephilim Giants are seen as  annihilated during the Great Flood. Their disembodied spirits damned as demons to roam the earth, and corrupt it until the time of the last judgement.

It is recorded in an ancient historical commentary titled the Jewish Haggada that Noah, who was favoured of God and saved from the flood, also wrote a lost thesis on medicine based on knowledge gained from the antediluvian world; which is, the ‘ancient world’ of the ancients (Nephilim/Fallen Angels). See also 2 St. Peter 2:4.

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The academics of the Cambridge Greek Testament (vol. Galatians ‘Notes’ p.124) point out the connection of such sorcery (Lat. venificia from venefica ‘a drug witch’) with the φαρμακεία pharmak(e)ia, the ‘drug magic’ or ‘enchantments’ of Exodus 7:11 al. whereby the Egyptian magicians – in the translation Greek of the LXX, the φαρμακεύς pharmakéus, literally the ‘drug magicians’, an esoteric priest cult of Pharaohs’ Court – performed there wonders. See also Revelation  9:21, 21:8, 22:15, 18:23. plus Concordance.

The same ancient Greek is used of the corresponding Nineveh in the LXX Nahum 3:4 and of the Idolatrous (the corresponding Babylonian world term remnant) in the New Testament:

‘That repented not of their murders, nor of their sorceries (φαρμακεία pharmakeia, ‘drug enchantments’) nor of their fornication’ – in the original Greek  πορνείας  porneias ‘harlotry’,  ‘pornography’,  ‘adulteries’ [both literal and Spiritual].

 Cf. Revelation 9:21, 18:3, 23.  —Drug Abuse In Scripture Website

If you are smoking cigarettes, or doing any sort of recreational drug, you might want to rethink whether or not you continue doing this thing.  It is apparent that these things originate with the fallen angels, their offspring, and were used in heathen idolatrous witchcraft. Do you really want to put the seeds of the nephilim, the seeds of Satan, inside of your body?

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  • frank

    So is make up , forged metal , medecine .

    • Attention all BIN viewers … This is crazy … Cannabis is a medical miracle if used for treating lung problems with a vaporizer and hemp seed are very nutritious. They my ven cure cancer and hemp competes with DuPont products which is why it is lobbied to become banned. TPTB know the amazing benefits of these natural plants and do not want competition. It hits these multinational corporations in the pocketbook and hurts big pharma. Don’ be fooled by this post and do your own research. Follow the big money …

    • Hell fire and brimstone… preach on Lyn. Why does she believe in the Bible? Because it tells her to. Proof enough! Good thing Animal Farm didn’t say “inspired word of God”.
      If we all lived as sanctimoniously as you, we would have all been killed off by now. When do you post how you walk on water too?
      Clearly you’re engulfed in a world surrounded by evil, demons, nephilim and witches. How ever do you survive day to day? Besides staying penned up behind the computer non-stop generating these pathetic, ill informed articles?

      • @ThirdEyeOpen: Your intentions speak much louder than your words.

  • Lyn, Good post keep up th egood work!

  • Dont take asprin,or penicillin, dont go to the hospital.

  • WTF…where is the evidence for Nephilim teaching mankind about tobacco products? I don’t like smoking, but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

    Why didn’t these Nephilim transport tobacco to Europe and get people smoking? I mean, these alleged Nephilim apparently are idiots–they teach people about tobacco in America hundreds of years before Columbus landed, but wait until European explorers land in the New World before giving it to them.

    I can only conclude that you had no idea that tobacco did not exist in Europe/Asia until after the discovery of the new world.

    Your story makes no sense, but that just makes it like all your other stories.

    • COCONUT

      Why are they OBSESSED about this Nephilim business period??

      • Working the Beat

        Just another race they can blame the ills of their religion on without repercussions. This really is the worst plagurised mess of information ive seen yet.

    • i agree but it could be that the nephilim are spiritual entities so the only way they can influence man is through thought and feeling.

      • Tell that to Lyn, who writes about Nephilim skulls, Nephilim DNA, and pre-historic sites as being Nephilim cities. Of course, the skulls are actually human, the DNA is human, and the sites are pre-historic human…

  • Cannabutter Oil is 100% proven to cure cancer! The Pharma Corps won’t allow dying cancer patients to have it because it grows naturally and cannot be therefore PATENTED!!!! I believe this factoid is the bigger evil-with all do respect. Drug addiction, I agree is an abomination, an epidemic on the social fabric of our society and I SINCERELY HOPE GEORGE H. W. BUSH THROUGH HIS CIA STOPS SELLING IT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SINCE HE WAS THE BIGGEST DRUG DEALER IN THE WORLD RUNNING HIS COCAINE THROUGH PRESIDENT, THEN GOV. CLINTON’S PRIVATE AIRPORT. JUST LOOK UP BILL’S NOSE AND YOU WILL NOT SEE THE MEMBRANE WHICH SEPARATES THE LEFT AND RIGHT NOSTRIL. THIS WAS CAUSED BY TO MUCH PARTYING BILLY BOY BUT AS PAYBACK YOU WERE GIVEN THE PRESIDENCY!

  • Cannabis can cure cancer. If Lynn feels this way well she is entitled to her opinion pray she does not get cancer or her kids because they won’t allow the medicine to be used in order to save their own lives. Reminds me of the Jehovah’s witnesses refusing blood transfusions. Ignorance kills.

    • shes lucky im not the praying type or that is exactly what id be wishing on her and hers.. the thing is a looney.. needs a good solid smack on the back of the head with a lump of 4×2.. might not fix her, but certainly couldnt do any harm..

  • Right on Bro, I love a clown.

    Especially one who has nothing to say and…

    No reason,

    No logic,

    No facts,

    No inspiration,

    No NOTHING.

    “Confederate” has a “hat” and the image of a “has-been” comic duff named Gene Wilder. (Thats all) … A complete idiot with his Troll, Shill bag of Swill.

    A TRASH BAG of comments.

    • ‘I love a clown … especially one who has nothing to say’… So you would define a clown as someone who had nothing to say.

      So what did you say:

      Nothing of ‘reason’.
      Nothing of ‘logic’.
      No ‘facts’ presented.
      No message of ‘inspiration’.
      NO NOTHING!

      If those previous posts fall under the category of a ‘trash bag of comments’ what category would your comment fall under?

      • Krispy Critter was commenting on a post by Confederate, which was subsequently removed.

        • That would be my mistake then.

          My apologies Krispy Critter.

          • No problem. Keep up the good fight.

      • Confederate’s comment vanished.

        I threw a large laxative his way.

        • Did you put the laxative in his cereal :?: :lol:

          • Is current day mary jane GMO, and if so does that change the discussion?

          • Is current day marijuana GMO, and if so, would that alter the debate?

    • Hey… “Confederate” are you still there?

      Wow, I better back of my donut consumption.

      Note: (Check for my coupon on the back of your cereal box)

  • Pix

    This article comes direct from oxymoron central. The nonmoral into worshipping a jealous giant invisible fairy story character that’s into racism, sexism, slavery, genocides, infinite torture for piffling misnomers, and absolutely disgusting blood sacrifices, moralising about other peoples use of recreational substances.

    ~Get a life.

    :lol:

    • I agree with Fix.
      Always the best researched data available.

      (say, ya got any donuts?)

  • From what I heard, juicing raw cannabis will not get you high, it is the heat that alters the chemical composition. I wish it were legal everywhere… I would be juicing it raw for its health benefits!
    IF this article were true, then no more chocolate, coffee, soda, herbs, spices too… ugh, what enjoyment would there be left??!! :shock:

    • Pix

      According to the ‘religious’ life is not supposed to be enjoyable, but a journey of misery so you can appreciate the sacrifice of a jealous narcissistic schizophrenic god with forgiveness problems.

      :wink:

  • Dregone

    Lyn you get more and more crazy everyday! It is kind of entertaining. But I think it is time you really step down and get out of here, please. Go back to the stone ages where you belong. You are afraid of facts, you are paranoid, and you bend quotes to fit your agenda. You are what gives the truthers a bad name. Cannabis oil can cure cancer, Marijuana also can heal many, many other things but I guess that would just be evil, why would your God want us to be healed? I think it is about time you smoke a joint and stfu.

  • “For example, the fallen angels taught man how to make tobacco products, and may very well have taught Noah how to make wine.”

    I’m sorry Lyn, but this really isn’t a Nephilim topic. No angel taught Jesus how to make wine out of water! And Jesus Himself drank wine, did He not?

    The problem is not drinking wine, the problem is if wine, or cigarettes, or whatever, becomes your god. But if God is number one in your life, all other things will fall into their proper place and perspective.

    The big problem with “pharmakeia” nowadays is Big Pharma. It seems like every other commercial on television is about a drug from Big Pharma which have what seems like millions of side-effects. God has provided for us many natural substances that are incredibly good for us that not only cure the things that Big Pharma sells drugs for, but they do the job better and without any of the side-effects. Pure, organic coconut oil has literally hundreds of good uses. Pure frankincense oil from Young Living kills cancer cells without harming good cells. And yes, even marijuana has many positive medical benefits without any of the lengthy side effects of man-made drugs. Cannabis oil cures cancer (google Rick Simpson). Forget about the Nephilim, God has provided these things:

    “He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man”

    —Psalm 104:14

    There are several natural cures for cancer, but since Big Pharma (think NWO) cannot patent and make money from a natural substance, they have suppressed the cures for decades. Big Pharma doesn’t want a cure for cancer, they make too much money TREATING cancer.

    • No where does it say Jesus drank wine.It say’s HE MADE WINE.

      • “The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children.”

        — Matthew 11:19

  • God I hate Christians.

    • He already knows.

      • Archangel Michael

        WHY DO YOU NEED A HUMAN SEX ORGAN IN HEAVEN?

        Aahhh!!!!!!……….. THE HORROR OF christian CREEPS……………. THE HORROR OF christian CREEPS :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

        He already knows that, too, DICK SUPREME!

      • “PlainJane is in fact “Universal Sign.”

        If you look at the similarity’s of “mental attitude,” and the “method of presentation” along with the use of “caps” to express himself, it is unmistakable. This looser has at least 5 user accounts here. He is well known as a phony and a joke around her.

        Look at “Universal Sign’s” alter ego expose itself as “PlainJane” of death.

        Aahhh… The Horror… The Horror….

      • WOW, Oh PlainJane sure resembles a mass of conflicting impulses.

        Note: (Check for my coupon on the back of your cereal box)

  • Hey Lyn, whatever you are smoking to believe this pathetic nonsense is surely much worse for you than a little god given herb…….. by the way what if i eat my pot is there a biblical loophole there? and what about where the bible says that every seed bearing plant on earth was given to us by god for our use? thats the thing with the bible, too many contradictions. you should seek some help b4 this gets out of hand. go look up the cb1 and cb2 receptor sites too. seems god programed us to produce the same chemicals as the cannabis plant.. the only plant that produces these chemicals. there are just so many holes in your theory. my advice to you. go smoke a joint and relax. oh ya those poor Rastafarians are in big trouble in your world.

    • “by the way what if i eat my pot is there a biblical loophole there? and what about where the bible says that every seed bearing plant on earth was given to us by god for our use? thats the thing with the bible, too many contradictions”

      What contradiction in the Bible are you talking about?

  • so jesus drank wine, now what??
    and the only thing that is attributed directly having been written by the hand of god is the ten commandments. everything else, ie the bible, is tainted by the hand of man and those who wished to control others.

    • No one can PROVE that the ten commandments or any part of the Bible was written or inspired by God. It all has to be taken on faith (which is believing without proof). Therefore, it’s blind and will never be proven by the religious, otherwise you’re not a faithful servant. However, those of us who are not scared for our eternal souls actually seek proof. And ironically enough, the proof is to the contrary of the legitimacy of the Bible. People like me are more interested in concerning ourselves with living the life we’re in versus the one we may or may not have after the fact. Either way, we’re here now for a reason or we wouldn’t be here. Enjoy responsibly – cause no harm or loss to others. Easy-peazy!

    • wrong, Jesus (just like the spelling sounds) paid me a personal visit one night sitting on my left just before my death and just as I had opened the cover of a Gideon NT in a last effort of hope, He said my name then “I am Jesus, I died for your sins, believe in Me and you will never perish” -keep in mind previous to this I thought it was all something for the weak-minded

      the odds?

      worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Revelation19

      And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest Acts9

      Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. John5

      directly eh?

      For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward Hebrews2

      Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
      Galatians 3

      God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. Hebrews1

  • blas·phe·my
    ˈblasfəmē/
    noun
    noun: blasphemy; plural noun: blasphemies

    1.
    the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk. :roll:

  • Cannabis oil has a proven track record of curing cancers. How many people have died from smoking cannabis (0). How many have died from smoking cigarettes? Millions. But the fact that cannabis oil cures many cancers is why those “Nephilim” you’re writing about don’t want humans to have access to their own herbs. You should write a truthful piece – for once – and identify the REAL descendants of the angels because you know who they are.

  • I had to make a account for this.. lyn needs to be listed as a fear monger-er there are hundreds of children making it through cancer because of medical marijuana you have been putting dis info out for the last couple months. I do not recommend you read this lady’s stuff anymore. It seems like people are putting what ever they want on here this was once a very respectable site that only had a little nonsense on it but now due to people like lyn your gonna loose some of your most valuable readers.I like this site for the open minded research but now you have people posting things that ALL TRUE BIN readers now is wrong and not the truth. WE NEED THE TRUTH NOT YOU COPY AND PASTE DIS INFO. :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

  • Everything is connected to the nephilim for you it seems Lyn. What a weird mind frame to live in. Is each day a hunt for some juicy tidbit you can dangle here for your own joy of spreading fear porn and strange a semi Christian thinking.

    There are so many topics you could be spreading and if your really bent by Christianity you could paste all your articles on christian sites, there are oodles of them. I am surprised you bother to do it here when you have a ready made audience that will roll with all your fallen angel stuff and gobble it up like manna. Oh wait that is another ~chemical~ created by “God” to help the Israelite’s survive their dread days.

  • Wow, this article is absurd. This makes Christians look crazy. I better leave weed alone and start popping some Oxycontins since it is patented and approved by the God inspired FDA. Yikes.

  • Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 30and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food”; and it was so.…

  • Lynn according to the bible they also taught women the art of makeup……I’ll give up my smokes when you give up your makeup! DEAL? :!:

    • Another hint of the relationship between angels and women is given by Paul in his letter to Corinth. Here, the apostle tells women that they should cover their heads as a sign of subjection to their husbands – and also ‘because of the angels’. Paul apparently believed that a woman’s uncovered head was tempting to angels as well as men. Not surprisingly, Jewish tradition maintains that it was the beauty of women’s long hair that attracted and tempted the angels to sin in the Genesis 6 account.

      Jesus never said it would be easy…

      • “because of the angels” means so as not to offend their sensibilities and their holiness They know full well the sins of man as well as the presence of Christ body and blood soul and divinity in the eucharist and amidst the congregation of worshippers, the latter also in non catholic churches and are offended by lack of reverence otherwise displayed, nothing more. this is the only explanation consistent with scripture, angels are on a higher spiritual plane than man as scripture says “He made man, a little lower than the angels” and therefore cannot be tempted by human sin but are repelled by it. Give the angels the respect they deserve and do not cast aspirsions on them with your silly interpretations of scripture based on previous silly interpretations of scripture

      • @xvleo: who said, “Give the angels the respect they deserve”.

        From Rome to Greece – and before that, to Egypt, Assyria, Babylonia, and Sumer – the earliest records of civilization tell of the era when powerful beings known to the Hebrews as Watchers and in the Book of Genesis as the sons of God mingled themselves with humans, giving birth to part-celestial, part-terrestrial hybrids known as the Nephilim – derived from the Hebrew root word ‘naphal’ meaning ‘the fallen ones’. Genesis 6:1 says this happened when men began to multiply on Earth (Baby-boomers) and daughters were born unto them (Generation X). When the sons of God saw the women’s beauty, they took wives from among them to give birth to their most unusual offspring. The whole of the ancient record is understood to mean that the Watchers wanted to leave their proper sphere of existence in order to enter Earth’s three-dimensional reality. They viewed women – or at least their genetic material – as part of the formula for accomplishing this task. Spiritual things are not allegorical abstractions; rather, reference is being made to beings or things that do not originate in our dimension. Those entities have their origin in the other dimensions known as the spiritual realm.

        Genesis 6:1-7: “And it came to pass, when men began to multiply [Baby-boomers] on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them [Generation X], That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were Nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men [gibborim] which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.”

        The Nephilim that were produced by the angel/mankind marriage were much different from either of their parents. This, too, went against God’s plan for the Earth in which each animal and human being was to reproduce ‘after its own kind’. This is perhaps the best demonstration that the parents of these creatures were not simply descendants of Cain and Seth. Had they been, they would have produced human offspring, rather than the Nephilim. The Nephilim were more than simply large beings or giants. When the Greek Septuagint was created, the Hebrew word Nephilim was translated into Greek as gegenes. This is the same word used in Greek mythology for the ‘Titans’, creatures created through the interbreeding of the Greek gods and human beings. (The English words ‘genes’ and ‘genetics’ are built around the same root word as gegenes; genea means ‘bread’ or ‘kind’.)

        Isaiah 26:13-14: “O Lord our God, other lords beside thee have had dominion over us: but by thee only will we make mention of thy name. They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased [Rephaim], they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.”

        The word Rephaim has been translated to mean deceased; however, this word can also mean ‘giants’ or Nephilim. And when one reads it as such, it takes on a much different meaning. This reading reveals why God found it necessary to destroy these creatures from the Earth in order to save mankind. The reason is that the giants created by the interbreeding of humans and angels will not ‘live again’, i.e., they won’t partake in the resurrection of the dead. For some reason the Rephaim will not be brought back to life for judgment. As such, they enable Satan to destroy mankind by robbing people of the ability to be resurrected to eternal life. For the same reason, it was essential for the Israelites to wipe out the Nephilim which they found in the Promised Land. Unfortunately, they did not appear to succeed (or, if they did, Satan was able to make an ‘end run’ around the actions to produce more Nephilim throughout the world following this period). With the information Isaiah reveals about the giants, we now see that the Nephilim could not be resurrected and also influence people to do evil. Because the Bible makes it clear that the offspring of the Nephilim were also giants, this situation undoubtedly snowballed with more interbreeding between the giants and human beings as well as through the wickedness the Nephilim exerted on those around them. The only solution was to wipe the creatures and those they had corrupted from the face of the Earth.

        2 Peter 2:4-10: “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.”

        Jude 1:5-8: “I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not. And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

        Diodorus: “Although their wives are comely, they have very little to do with them, but rage with lust in outlandish fashion for the embraces of males. And the most astonishing thing of all is that they feel no concern for their proper dignity but prostitute to others without a qualm the flower of their bodies; nor do they consider this a graceful thing to do, but rather when anyone of them is thus approached and refuses the favor offered him, this they consider an act of dishonor.”

        Flavius Josephus: “For many angels of God accompanied with women, and begat sons that proved unjust, and despisers of all that was good, on account of the confidence they had in their own strength; for the tradition is, that these men did what resembled the acts of those whom the Grecians call giants.”

        The corruption of antediluvian DNA by the Watchers was an effort to cut off the birth line of the Messiah. This is why God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and to fill the earth (multiply). The DNA manipulation was to create a hybrid form that neither the spirit of man nor God would inhabit, because it was neither man nor beast, and thus provided an unusual body made up of human, animal, and plant genetics known as Nephilim, an Earth-born ‘fit extension’ into which the Watchers could extend themselves – much like the idea of demonic possession. Only Noah – and by extension, his children – were found ‘perfect’ in their generation. From Jesus’ words we see that there will be no need for any more procreation once we reach heaven because we will be eternal (Luke 20:35-36). Nowhere in the Bible does it say that angels are incapable of mixing their seed with humans. What we learn from Peter and Jude is that they were not supposed to. The fallen angels (sons of God) literally left their proper domain – a spirit realm that is parallel to our own – and came/fell to Earth where they fathered their Nephilim offspring with human woman.

        Dr. I.D.E. Thomas: “It seems clear to me that the ‘sons of God’ are none other than fallen angels, and because of their further sin of lusting after the ‘daughters of men’ many were imprisoned by God. Both the near annihilation of the human race and the incarceration of the fallen angels in Tartarus indicate the magnitude of the sin they committed. By such drastic judgment, God saved the human race from a calamity worse than the physical death originally imposed upon them.”

        Revelation 12:7-9: “And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”

        The term ‘sons of God’ in the Bible is limited to three categories: angels, Adam, and the believers in Christ. So there are only two ways to become a son of God: one way is by being a direct creation of God and the other way is by receiving Christ. If the devil has angels and they are cast into the lake of fire, then they cannot be good angels. Thus they are fallen angels, or also known as demons. The biblical evidence is conclusive that the Nephilim were, in fact, men of extraordinary stature and that they descended from human mothers and fallen angel fathers. The mingling of these two orders of being, was contrary to what God had intended, and summarily led to God’s greatest act of judgment ever enacted upon the human race. God’s law of reproduction, according the biblical account of creation is ‘everything after his kind’. God’s law makes it impossible for giants to be produced by normal parentage. To produce such monstrosities as the Nephilim presupposes supernatural parentage. When one deals with the world of the supernatural, rationality is never an argument.

        The recurring theme is that ‘gods’ came from the sky and dwelt in various places, creating advances in the cultures in which they chose to live. Bolstering this idea is the fact that the figures carved into the earth appear to be related to the constellations in the sky. Another source of information is the abundance of myths, legends, and folklore and fables that speak of giants upon the earth in ancient times, and how there was sexual union between demigods from Heaven and women from Earth. Many scholars believe that myths emerged from a kernel of historical fact. According to Andrew Thomas, mythology and folklore are “thought-fossils depicting the story of vanished cultures in symbols and allegories.” David Flynn told us before his untimely passing that, “Through time and the change of culture the symbols of the mysteries have endured, incorporated into the dogma of…philosophies and religions.” The whole story of Greek mythology is an expanded version of that astonishing verse in the Bible: ‘That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose’. Later, of course, many of these myths and legends developed an overgrowth of fictional imagery and imaginative fantasy, which clung to them like moss to the mill. There can be little doubt, however, that beneath this dense overgrowth lies the plant of truth. What began as factual, historic documentation has ended up as a long-lost legend waiting to be rediscovered at the appointed time when the Lord would raise his watchman in the final hour to warn those with eyes who will see and ears who will hear.

      • Thanks Omega and the Beast for your well thought out and well written posts, they lift the levels of these discussions.

      • You are proven wrong by your own quotation

        2 Peter 2:4-10: “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment.

        I have elsewhere rejected the fallen angel interbreeding garbage and I won’t repeat it. Believe it if you want, but to do so will only undermine your own faith.

        “In the last days mankind will not accept the true doctrine but scoff at it and having itching ears will seek after fables”. Don’t you just love a juicy angel/women sex scandal. Shame on you all. Nephilim means prince or elder nothing more, the pre flood people were “ungodly” nothing more. Everything was gigantic before the flood, people trees animals…and lived long long lives…because of the pristine atmosphere free from harmful radiation courtesy a band of water above the atmosphere. I think the giants post flood were mere mutations.

      • @xvleo…is that really the best that you could come up with?

        Colossians 2:18: “Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.”

        Nephilim (the basic Google defintion): “The Nephilim were the offspring of the “sons of God” and the “daughters of men” according to Genesis 6:4; and giants who inhabited Canaan according to Numbers 13:33. ”

        Your rebuttal, is garbage. It’s not worth my time. Anybody who reads this should read the entire thread and decide for themselves.

        I have one message for you:

        Matthew 7:15:20: “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

        xvleo… if you believe in the Word of God, shame on you…if you don’t believe in the Word of God, may God have mercy on your soul.

      • FYI,

        PlainJane/UniversalSign/etc. :twisted: visited this board with her 4 ID’s and their up and down votes :wink:

      • am123,

        You’re just jealous because I have my own demon and you don’t.

      • It’s funny how Universal Sign THINKS that we are all the same person, but we KNOW all of his accounts. Out of all the nutjobs on this website, Demon Girl is the laughing stock.

      • Demon Girl is demonically possessed.

        No joke.

      • Now BEEF, leave chumlee :wink: out of this :!: :lol:

      • “Demon Girl is demonically possessed.” :twisted:

        I don’t doubt that BEEF, such passionate vitriol.

      • “It’s funny how Universal Sign THINKS that we are all the same person”

        Shhhh Omega, let’s not give it away :wink:

      • If she isn’t possessed, then the alternative position is that she is a normal, mislead young woman who has developed an unusual animosity to all things good. Either way, the demonic influences that have led her astray are nothing to snark at… so I try not to laugh… :roll:

      • For those of you who are following the theological discussion above and are keeping score at home:

        Omega and the Beast……………..1
        xvleo…………………………………….0

      • Chumlee?

        What about Doc? And Muad Dib. And RAMBAM. And Fat Bastard. And Inigo Montoya. And Kurgan. And…

        I think that covers it.

      • Ooops :oops: my bad BEEF :!:

        But who’s keeping score :?: :lol:

      • Our Boss.

      • Touche.

      • Got that right :!:

      • you equate devils with sons of God – that statement is garbage – btw ‘sons of God’ was applied to ‘prince’ or ‘elder’s of the people , ‘men of renoun’ in genesis – would the Bible refer to devils as men of renoun, sons of God?

        What nonsense, blasphemy really. If the nephilim were fallen angels wouldn’t Peter have mentioned this?

        No he says fallen angels went straight to hell and preflood people were simply ‘ungodly’ – if they were fallen angels I think he would have mentioned the fact- as would genesis. neither account does , just your evangelical clap trap – get a grip – you quoted Peter yourself in this, then attacked me for exposing it, trying to bury the fact. attack the man you’ve already lost.

        respect for angels equals worship of angels does it?
        so this implies you have disrespect for angels? – thats pretty creepy – your post stinks to high heaven as does your presumption, preaching, judging and ignorance. but hey you have company, you quote their names even, so you must be right….right???
        actually was anything you said a product of your own thinking or just wringing your sponge brain onto the board?

        - for the benefit of right minded people.

      • “If the nephilim were fallen angels wouldn’t Peter have mentioned this?”

        Hmmmmm…..maybe I missed it :wink: but I don’t see anywhere that Omega said the Nephilim were fallen angels.

      • xvleo,

        The older I get, the more abundantly easy it becomes for me to discern the right and the wrong of a Scriptural dispute. The party who strikes the accusatory and snobbish tone you have just adopted, is always wrong.

        If you fail to see that the Sons of God are in fact the author of the seed which spawned the Men of Renown — then I’m just not sure how you make sense of the entire Old Testament narrative. But more importantly than that, since you have failed to rightly divide the word of truth, you will be ill-prepared to face what’s coming.

        Even if you THINK you’re right — your attitude is all wrong. That alone tells me everything I need to know about the quality of your doctrine.

      • (Sons of God being the Watchers — Angels… and none other.)

      • (My above comment should be taken in the context of the Genesis/Nephilim discussion.)

        Here is every instance of the term Sons of God found in Scripture. ESPECIALLY telling is Job 38:7 — not that the other verses from Job should leave much room for doubt:

        Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

        Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

        Job 1:6 ¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

        Job 2:1 Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

        Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

        John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

        Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

        Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

        Philippians 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

        1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

        1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

      • And in case anyone wasn’t counting — that’s TWELVE instances of the term.

        None should fail to seek for meaning in that fact as well.

      • quote

        “The fallen angels (sons of God) literally left their proper domain – a spirit realm that is parallel to our own – and came/fell to Earth where they fathered their Nephilim offspring with human woman.

        Dr. I.D.E. Thomas: “It seems clear to me that the ‘sons of God’ are none other than fallen angels,”
        unquote

        You may mean well both of you and his post was so long you probably fell asleep before you finished reading the above, in which case I have to call foul on the points and award myself an additional penalty point therefore xvleo win by 2 points.

      • Well, am123, xvleo missed it because he/she was more concerned about the possibility that her/his beliefs are wrong. He/she simply skimmed over what I presented that didn’t conform to her dontrine (ROMAN Catholic, I assume). He/she has failed to validate my claims and has resorted to baseless criticism.

        You said: “btw ‘sons of God’ was applied to ‘prince’ or ‘elder’s of the people , ‘men of renoun’ in genesis”

        I said: “The term ‘sons of God’ in the Bible is limited to three categories: angels, Adam, and the believers in Christ. So there are only two ways to become a son of God: one way is by being a direct creation of God and the other way is by receiving Christ.”

        John 1:12: “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.”

        2 Corinthians 5:17: “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation.”

        Galatians 6:15: “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.”

        In the phrase, ‘the same became mighty men [gibborim] which were of old, men of renown’; the same ‘mighty men’ who WERE the ‘men of renown’; the phrase ‘might men’ was originally translated as ‘gibborim’ (giants, Nephilim offspring). Though expositors tend to view Moses describing a group of ‘ungodly men’, MOSES and JOEL(2:2-11) include ‘gibborim’ in there description in the phrase, ‘the same became mighty men [gibborim] which were of old, men of renown’ and ‘they shall run like mighty men [gibborim]. You can’t honestly believe that the Bible is simply speaking about ‘ungodly men’ after what I just posted.

        You said: “What nonsense, blasphemy really. If the nephilim were fallen angels wouldn’t Peter have mentioned this?” First off, I never said the Nephilim were fallen angels. I said they were the hybrid sons of the fallen angels and humans.

        I said: “For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment (2 Peter 2:4)”… So the question that you should ask yourself is, what did they do to deserve such a punishment? What did the ‘angels who sinned’ do? With that question in mind, I quoted Jude (1:6-7): “And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day… giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh.” Notice that the angels ‘kept not their first estate’; they, ‘wanted to leave their proper sphere of existence in order to enter Earth’s three-dimensional reality.’ Also notice that they were, ‘going after strange flesh.’

        1 Corinthians 15:39-40: “All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.”

        So I also said: “Nowhere in the Bible does it say that angels are incapable of mixing their seed with humans [If you can contradict this statement then please do so]. What we learn from Peter and Jude is that they were not supposed to. The fallen angels (sons of God) literally left their proper domain – a spirit realm that is parallel to our own – and came/fell to Earth where they fathered their Nephilim offspring with human woman.”

        And in case you were wondering, God made like animals of different breeds capable of reproducing. For example, horses can propagate with other mammals of the equidae classification (the taxonomic ‘horse family), including donkeys and zebras. It would not have ‘provoked the Lord’ for this type of animal breeding to have taken place, as God Himself made the animals able to do this. If, on the other hand, the Watchers were crossing species boundaries by mixing incompatible animals of one species with the other, such as pig DNA with humans like science is doing today, this would have been a different matter and may cast light on the numerous ancient stories of mythical beings of variant-species manufacturing that fit perfectly within the records of what the Watchers were accomplishing. Understandably, this kind of chimera-making would have ‘provoked the Lord’, and raises the serious question of why the Watchers would have risked eternal damnation by tinkering with God’s creation in this way. God had placed boundaries between the species and strictly ordered that ‘each kind’ reproduce only after its ‘own kind’. Was the motive of the Watchers to break these rules simply the desire to rebel, to assault God’s creative genius through biologically altering what He had made? Or was something of deeper significance behind the activity?

        You said: “so this implies you have disrespect for angels? – thats pretty creepy – your post stinks to high heaven”

        I said: Colossians 2:18: “Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind.” Find me one verse, from either testament, in which God tells us to worship angels. We are to worship Jesus, and Jesus alone.

        Need I say more?

      • “Dr. I.D.E. Thomas: “It seems clear to me that the ‘sons of God’ are none other than fallen angels,”
        unquote”

        What does that have to do with what I said :eek: :?:

        I was strictly speaking about the Nephilim :wink:

      • “PlainJane is in fact “Universal Sign.”

        If you look at the similarity’s of “mental attitude,” and the “method of presentation” along with the use of “caps” to express himself, it is unmistakable. This looser has at least 5 user accounts here. He is well known as a phony and a joke around her.

        Look at “Universal Sign’s” alter ego expose itself as “PlainJane” of death.

        Aahhh… The Horror… The Horror….

      • Here is a verse which makes matters ever more difficult for any stance which denies that the Sons of God are OTHER than men…

        Psalm 89:6

        For who in the HEAVEN can be compared unto the LORD? who among the SONS OF THE MIGHTY can be likened unto the LORD?

        Heaven: H7834 שׁחק shachaq From H7833; a powder (as beaten small); by analogy a thin vapor; by extension the firmament: – cloud, small dust, heaven, sky.

        SONS OF THE MIGHTY: Ben’ei El’im (singular EL אל ‘êl Shortened from H352; strength; as adjective mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity): – God (god), X goodly, X great, idol, might (-y one), power, strong. Compare names in “-el.”)

        WHO IN THE HEAVEN – effectively rules out men. And you can strike ‘effectively.’ The Sons of the Mighty are not the sons of Adam. ‘El’ is translated as God all throughout the English translations. This is a THIRTEENTH occurrence of Sons of God, one which should remove all doubt about the intended meaning of the term.

      • CRABB —

        Try to keep up please.

        You’re so far behind, you think you’re first.

      • @xvleo: the sons of God (1/3 of the angels in heaven) became the fallen angels.

        Revelation 12:4: “And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.”

        I understand exactly where you are coming from.. Jesus taught that we would be hated for his Word so our churches chastising those who are aware of the times should reveal to us their true character. Whether they have succumbed to the temptations of Satan or have been duped, these preachers have been told to ignore any gloomy, end times prophecy because such teaching is generally not allowed in academia or supported by those who provide funding for the ministry. It’s sad to see…really… Churches, and people like you, focus on the good Word but these watered down, cookie cutter teachings will not equip, strengthen, enlighten, or draw people closer to the truth but further away from it. All those trapped in the Babylonian system, will simply grow sleepier and sleepier and unless they begin to heed the cry of God’s watchmen in this late hour to come out of her, they will simply be pulled right into the delusion being created for its proper time; and they will accept it blindly.

        2 Thessalonians 2:11:”And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.”

      • “You may mean well both of you and his post was so long you probably fell asleep before you finished reading the above, in which case I have to call foul on the points and award myself an additional penalty point therefore xvleo win by 2 points.”

        To the contrary, xvleo is penalized for hitting below the belt—trying to make hay using a false claim :!:

        So for those of you keeping score at home, the final results are in. The judges official scorecard reads as follows:

        The winner, by TKO, is Omega and the Beast because xvleo was too dazed and confused :???: to continue fighting—I mean debating :!:

        He totally mischaracterized and missed completely what Omega said and was swinging and hitting nothing but thin air :!:

        Ding ding ding, this fight—I mean debate—is over :!: :lol:

      • “You’re so far behind, you think you’re first.”

        You may be right BEEF, but do you have to be so…..well……crabby about it :?: :lol:

      • @Omega,

        You said:

        “the sons of God (1/3 of the angels in heaven) became the fallen angels.
        Revelation 12:4: “And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.”
        ——————————–

        That is the first thing I’ve noticed from you Omega that I have a different view on. But then again, I have a different view than the orthodox view on this particular verse.

        I realize this is tangential to your lopsided :lol: debate with xvleo, but for what it is worth, here is a different take on REV 12:4:

        I don’t believe the dragon knocking a third of the stars down to earth with his tail speaks to Satan deceiving a third of the angels. I believe the dragon knocking down a third of the stars to the earth with his tail speaks to war breaking out in heaven and the dragon not only knocks down a third of the stars to the earth, but he stomps on them. For speaking of the little horn in Daniel (who corresponds with the beast), it says:

        “And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.”

        —Daniel 8:10

      • Evangelicals are brainwashed, just like jehovah’s witnesses , scientologists, church going protestants, and even catholics of which i am, but old school, where you are taught to nurture your relationship with christ, the father and the holy spirit, not your preacher and his doctrine. An example of this dangerous brainwashing is when you can’t differentiate between the meanings of the words ‘respect’ and ‘worship’.
        But I’ll give you the benefit of presuming your intent is good which is all that counts and pray for you and call it even.

      • @am123

        I very well could be wrong…I’ve got mixed views on it myself, but I am always open to their being a new understanding. I try to use other apocryphal texts like Enoch, Jubilees, and Jasher to get a better understanding of those things that the Bible skips right over. Obviously, I consider these with a grain of salt because they aren’t the official Word of God. So I could be wrong. Until this moment, that was simply the theory that made the most sense to me, but I will definitely have to reconsider and keep an open mind. I hope that you continue to show me when I could be wrong, the last thing that I want to do is minister a false message. I’ll do my homework before I make that statement again.

        To me, it has seemed as if there is a pattern between the number (1/3..33.33) and ‘rebellion’. Here’s a few examples:

        Enoch describes the angels as stars (1 En 86:3).

        Jasher 9:26: “And all these people and all the families divided themselves in three parts; the first said We will ascend into heaven and fight against him; the second said, We will ascend to heaven and place our own gods there and serve them; and the third part said, We will ascend to heaven and smite him with bows and spears; and God knew all their works and all their evil thoughts, and he saw the city and the tower which they were building.”

        Enoch 6:4-6: “Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.’ 5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it.”

        Mount Herman of the Golan Heights in the land of Phoenicia (modern day Syria), is known throughout ancient mythology as the first location where the fallen angels fell to Earth. This is supported by the Book of Enoch and many of the other apocryphal texts discovered in 1947 with the Dead Sea Scrolls. What’s interesting is that Mount Herman is located exactly at 33.33° North and 33.33° East; exactly 2012 nautical miles from the equator and 2012 nautical miles from the prime meridian (look at David Flynn’s work). Considering the occult theology behind the number ’33′ that would seem to be more than a fascinating coincidence. Without being given a direct answer to this question in the Word of God, I am left to speculate whether the ’1/3 of the stars’ from Revelation 12:4 were referring to those involved with the initial rebellion.

      • @Omega,

        No harm no foul. I’m glad to hear you will keep an open mind about it. I merely presented my alternate viewpoint on that particular verse because I think it takes on a different look if you look at it in conjunction with Daniel 8:10.

        If I may expand on that a little further using something from a western analogy: there are good angels and bad angels if you will. To differentiate them, let’s say the good angels are wearing white hats and the bad angels are wearing black hats. The traditional viewpoint on REV 12:4 is the dragon knocks down with his tail stars/angels wearing black hats. What I am saying is he is knocking down with his tail stars/angels wearing white hats.

        It’s been a pleasure Omega, keep up the good work :!:

        And BEEF, stop being so crabby :!: :lol:

      • crab crab crab crab crab crab

      • hmmm, maybe not – just a bunch of 7th day adventist cult nut jobs out on a picnic.

        I love the “I don’t want to do wrong preaching” line – priceless. you should do stand up.

        My bad, I won’t swallow your fallen angels copulating with humans heresy therefore I’m caught up in the end time deception. :shock:

        You wrestle with and toss out scriptures to your own destruction my friends. You have an outward form of faith but it is hollow….and just a little creepy.

        thewarningsecondcoming.com

      • You are not very good with handling defeat are you?

    • **her** acounts… My apologies demon girl

  • Lee

    fallen angels did corrupt but man is inherently wicked, just as responsible for creating this stuff as much as them, be set free, repent. Ask Jesus into your heart

  • Great Story…I want to hear more about the Nephelim!

    • Read my post a few comments up.

    • 1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

      2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives, whomsoever they chose.

      3 And the LORD said: ‘My spirit shall not abide in man for ever, for that he also is flesh; therefore shall his days be a hundred and twenty years.’

      4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown

      —Genesis 6:1-4 Masoretic text

  • one part of Benet’s writings which has attracted some modern attention is her claim that the herb known as kaneh-bosm or kneh-bosm mentioned in the Hebrew Bible may relate to religious use of cannabis. Kaneh-bosm is listed in the Book of Exodus as one of the ingredients of the holy anointing oil used in the tabernacle and later in the temple, and has historically and also by modern lexical and botanical scholars today interpreted as calamus or related plants. By an argument based on comparative etymology Benet asserts that the word kaneh-bosm actually refers to the drug cannabis and was used in ancient Jewish religious rites, possibly as an intoxicant. Some pro-cannabis advocates have cited Benet’s work as evidence that cannabis use has a long culturally important history, and that the criminalization and demonization of cannabis is a recent invention. According to Benet, cannabis appears in ancient Hebrew texts spelled with the Hebrew letters: “Kuph, Nun, Hé ­ Bet, Shin, Mem,” translated into western alphabetic forms as ¹aneh-bosm, kaneh-bosm or kineboisin. The book of Exodus records the event of Moses receiving the instructions for making and distributing the hemp enriched holy oil, in the most auspicious tones

  • Where can I get this Nephilim bud?

  • Dear Lyn,

    I find most of what you post to be interesting, but this time I feel you missed the mark but its when we make mistakes we learn from them.

    Please don’t be insulted, as I really do like you, you seem to be a very sweet and good person who is looking to do the right thing.

    First off as noted by a few here, “Cannabis can will cure cancer” and in just under 3 months too in most cases.
    I know this for a fact, as I was in stage 4 cancer I was told I had very little time left.
    That was in January 2009, today 2/6/2014, I am quite healthy, as well cancer free.

    Now on that point, I was guided by non other than: GOD who spoke to me to look up Rick Simpson’s web sight, from whom I gained the information on how to make Hemp Oil.
    Thus I cured Cancer for under $4000.00.
    Try that based on the AMA’s methods of madness by giving you waste materials for around $600,000.00 +++++ PLUS, with around a 10-30% chance of coming out the other end.

    Lyn, if I could have grown it, I could have cured the cancer for almost FREE!

    Now, to a few facts: you as well all humans produce “Cannabinoids” in your own body – did you know that?
    Its true, as well its science, Plus its 100% provable, we just call it by its generic name “Endorphins.” But its still “Cannabinoids.”

    Cannabinoids are the active chemical in cannabis, thus when you hurt yourself GOD planted this special compound in your system to aid you with the pain.
    But on that note, please do keep in mind what we produce in our system is far more powerful than anything you could ever smoke etc…

    I note in your presentation what’s being written about is nothing more nor less than “OPIUM.” Its still the root of most drugs used even today, legal or otherwise.
    Sadly that’s also the reason why we have troops in the Afgan region protecting the Big Pharm co’s crops, so they can profit off all Humans and we pay with our children and family members life’s as well.

    Shalom with Love TIME

  • Where on earth does it say nephilim made pot. That’s something from the mind of a mad man. What the nephilim made pot on the 8th day? Maybe they made pharmaceuticals but God made the pot.

    What does the bible say about judging and trying to spew scriptures to control people?
    Matt 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
    Matt 7:1-5 Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

    What does the bible say about the herbs made for mans use.
    Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

    What does the bible say about working out ones own souls salvation:
    Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

    Seriously if you want to teach people about Christ teach them about his love and grace. I get disgusted by people who try to use the bible as a weapon of control. A way to prove some dysfuntional crazy idea. It’s a sickening thing that churches and fanatics have turned Christianity into a way to control, judge and condemn and they are turning people off to the very thing they are supposed to be attracting people to.

    • NewIDTest

      What does the bible say about the herbs made for mans use.
      Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

      So you would eat a poison ivy salad? Drink some hemlock tea? Have a toadstool stir fry? Where is that verse saying, “…therefore, eat anything in sight”?

      I have something from the Bible for you. “Come now, let us reason together.” I know that’s a foreign concept around here.

    • NewIDTest

      It’s a sickening thing that churches and fanatics have turned Christianity into a way to control, judge and condemn and they are turning people off to the very thing they are supposed to be attracting people to.

      Yeah. Next thing somebody will claim the Bible judges and condemns sin. Maybe some free drug samples or pole dancers in churches would “attract” people.

  • you do realize the fallen demon angels are still hard at work to reek havoc on our poor planet. they put their evil thoughts and spirits in man and make man believe that good is bad and bad is good. gmos are evil. mixing animal genes to make some mutated thing is evil. marriage between two of the same sex is evil. what happened to the 7th day Sabbath? divorce is evil. being self centered is evil. the demons are having a field day. don’t help em out.

  • Nice synopsis Lyn of Enoch and scripture in regards to pharmacopoeia. I’m amazed at how many folks get their collective panties in a knot over dissing their pot. I smoke Marb reds and have for along time – I don’t need anyone or thing to tell me how wrong they are, however it’s no surprise as to the origins.

  • And Booze is Ok ? How dumb is That

  • Bearing in mind that the Nephilim were supposed to be giants… just how big would a Nephilim joint have been??? Inquiring minds want to know :grin:

  • Hi Lynn,
    Well, cannibus is a green herb, which is much stronger when eaten.

    Cannibus was used in Exodus 30:23-25 as
    one ingredient of the holyanointing oil_that’s part of all the
    ingredients that were cooked firstw,per verse 25.
    Cannibus is used elsewhere also and can be found witha simple search_like at studylight(dot)org.

    If one were to use calamus as the KJV and others put up they wouldbe taking exctacy with the included hallucinogen properties_woop !

    It really helps to confirm every word in the Bible to see if it is from God or not.
    Otherwise the Muslims also hold their book up and nclaim it is of God, and we know what that looks like.
    Cannibus is good ! Genesis 1:29___vs. 31_Very Good !

    Thanks Lynn.

  • Angels also taught men how to read and write and add… And so so so many others things… In fact Angels taught men how to lie and murder and kill… What have you learned?… That’s why only men were given the ability to reason between what’s wrong and right… That’s why Angels were called to see the image that was created for them to learn… The Chosen Image that some of those Angels denied… The Image Of Man And His Reason For Being… Now Come And See… Are you better than an Angel?… Were are you in this line and image of reason?…

    As written it is not what goes in one’s mouth that destroys them… It is truly what comes out the mouth that saves or condemns one… The Truth…

  • I think some one is on drugs, Noah and wine? Odd thing considering Jesus turned the water into wine and the old drunk guy commented on how good it was.

  • Human bodies produce their own drugs as well called endorphins. I guess that’s evil as well. This kind of nonsense is what lead to the Enlightenment 400 years ago.

  • It’s amazing how ignorant most of these comments are.”God is Spirit and must be worshiped in spirit and truth”Do yo know what that means.It means,our puny minds could never comprehend the things of God.It’s amazing how smart us puny humans think we are,and how we have it all figured out.People,hey,We’re talkin about God,the creator of the universe,knows the beginning and the end,and provided a perfect redemption plan for mankind.What do you think our sin tainted mind could comprehend him.?Only he can open our spiritual eye’s to comprehend him.All you have to do is seek the truth instead of making ignorant,unfounded,Christian hating comments on this site..

  • This is one of the biggest loads of poop of an writing, such a fairytale like all Susan’s writings.

  • The more I see from Lyn the more I’m convinced she’s a disinformation shill.

  • My story has to do with the healing power of Rick Simpson cannabis oil.”My sister Khloe, age 65, was diagnosed with Bone Cancer on the inside of her backbone 2 years ago, which had metastasized from breast cancer she didn’t know she had. I prayed for a total healing with NO operation, no chemo and no radiation. not everyone has had the experience of knowing Rick Simpson as their Healer… but they can! Rick Simpson, father of all natural hemp.

    May the grace of God be upon Rick for his good work and courage; and with his Hemp we are healed”.
    Early this year i traveled to Europe( Slovak) to visit a good friend of mine when i heard Rick was around so i traveled to him and meet him one on one and purchase the healing oil from him, now am so happy and filled with joy that my sister is no longer a cancer patient and she’s completely healed with his miracle healing oil. The doctor himself confirmed to us on Tuesday last week that my sister Khloe is fully OK. No sign of cancer in her bone or breast again….Wow…Am so so happy that my family and I have been thanking Rick for his good work of saving this world with his cannabis oil. Please people i don’t know how to thank him enough so am dropping his contact here*** [email protected] *** +447024078253 ***, am begging if you can spear 5 minutes of your time and please help me to thank him, he is truly a hero of this world and i pray for God’s strength and wisdom upon him.

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