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Now, check out David Vose’s video below:
David Vose, from his YouTube Channel:
IS anybody telling the truth anymore? Are we getting our news from a propaganda room? Is it really a SPIN your hearing. Who’s Spin will you believe? Is it odd to you that We cannot know for sure if our government is telling the truth and many are finding the Russian Government more credible? Thats what is happening. We are only beginning to wake up and only a few of us. NOT enough I’m afraid. We better stay wait untill ALL the lies come in and then try to see behind the cover up. Maybe we can figure out whats going on.
With so many different stories and different takes; different questions and different answers, it leads one to wonder, “Just WHO is telling the truth, and WHAT really happened?”
Don’t get me wrong. As a watchman, I know that we are to watch the end times events unfolding and we are to show people. There’s nothing wrong with that. What I am talking about is the mass confusion and dwelling on ‘why’ or ‘how’ it happened.
It seems, as of late, whenever tragedy hits, there are always a gazillion conspiracy theories, a gazillion mainstream theories, and a gazillion blog posts and videos all over the internet to where nobody really knows for sure what to believe.
Are we supposed to have mass confusion whenever a tragedy occurs? Maybe we should be taking a closer look at this obvious problem as opposed to looking at the tragedy itself. Sometimes, when we are hung up on one event for such a time, our backs are turned and we are missing something else that might be even more important.
Someone, or something, wants mass hysteria and confusion whenever a catastrophe happens. When we can figure out the answer to this question, the truth we’re seeking won’t be so hard to find.
I can tell you that soon…VERY SOON…bigger and more catastrophic events than have ever happened in history will be unleashed. If you think this is hysteria and confusion, you haven’t seen anything yet!
Logically it can’t be the alt media as there are 5 different conflicting stories going around
Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
You should cite the source of that quote: Doyle’s “Sherlock Holmes”.
“IS anybody telling the truth anymore?”
Nope, but they never have told the truth. If you think they have ever told the truth you’re stupid and gullible.
SORRY but Im sticking with Carlos the Kiev Air Traffic Controller whose life was put under threat on the 17th after the tweets he sent out.
Im now worried sick about him and his family because having followed his tweets periodically since May only on the 17th was this the FIRST time his Twitter was “suddenly” and abruptly “SHUT DOWN.
He has the true answers because he was an eye witness. There were 2 UKRANIAN JETS tailing the plane 3 minutes before it crashed.It was the UKRANIAN Military whom shot it down.
He was there in the Air Traffic Control tower when it all went down.
They may have abruptly shut down his Twitter but I had the Foresight to COPY his tweets and store them all.
Shortly after this ALL AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS including him were “whisked out of the country” and replaced by Foreigners.
Here are his Tweets from throughout the day.
Please pray for him as his life may well now be in danger!Hes a good man and has been a valuable source for the past several months for getting Inside info out concerning whats been going on in Ukraine.
Spanish Air Controller @ Kiev Borispol Airport: Ukraine Military Shot Down Boeing #MH17
Eyewitness Accounts July 18, 2014 Comments: 5
Translated from Spanish by Luis Lopez
Source: Tweets by Spanish Air Controller – @spainbuca
10:21 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Autoridades de kiev, intentan hacer que pueda parecer un ataque de los pro-rusos
“Kiev Authorities, trying to make looks like an attack by pro-Russian”
10:24 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Ojo! Que puede ser un derribo B777 Malaysia Airlines en ukraine, 280 pasajeros
“warning! It can be a downing, Malaysia Airlines B777 in ukraine, 280 passengers”
10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Cuidado! Kiev tiene lo que buscaba
“Warning! Kiev have what they wanted”
10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Vuelven a tomar la torre de control en Kiev
“[Miitary] has taken control of ATC in Kiev”
10:27 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El avión B777 de Malaysia Airlines desapareció del radar, no hubo comunicación de ninguna anomalia, confirmado
“The Malaysia Airlines B777 plane disappeared from the radar, there was no communication of any anomaly, confirmed”
10:30 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Avión derribado, derribados, derribado no accidente
“Plane shot down, shot down, shot down, no accident”
10:31 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Kiev, tiene lo que buscaba, lo dije en los primeros tw, kiev es responsable @ActualidadRT
“Kiev have what they wanted, I said in the first tw [Tweets], Kiev is responsible @ ActualidadRT”
10:35 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Un accidente muy normal no es, no están amenazando en la misma torre del aeropuerto de kiev,
“An accident that is not quite normal, they are threatening us in the same tower of Kiev airport”
10:35 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nos van a quitar, nuestros tlf y demás de un momento a otro
“they will take from our phones and others stuff at any moment”
10:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Antes de que me quiten el tlf o me rompan la cabeza, derribado por Kiev
“Before They remove my phone or they break my head, shot down by Kiev”
11:12 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nosotros tenemos la confirmación. Avión derribado, la autoridad de kiev, ya tiene la información, derribado, estamos tranquilos ahora
“We have confirmation. Plane downed, Kiev authorities already have the information, downed, we are calm now”
11:13 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Que hace personal extranjero con autoridades de kiev en la torre? Recopilando toda la información
“What are doing foreigners with kiev authorities in the tower? Gathering all the information”
11:15 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Cuando sea posible sigo escribiendo
“When possible I´ll keep writing”
11:48 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El avión B 777 voló escoltado por 2 cazas de ukraine hasta minutos antes, de desaparecer de los radares,
The B777 plane flew escorted by Ukraine jet fighter until 2 minutes before disappearing from the radar,
11:54 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Sí las autoridades de kiev, quieren decir la verdad, esta recogido 2 cazas volaron muy cerca minutos antes , no lo derribo un caza
“If kiev authorities want to tell the truth, It´s gathered, 2 jet fighters flew very close minutes before, wasn’t downed by a fighter”
12:00 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nada más desaparecer el avión B 777 de Malaysia Airlines la autoridad militar de kiev nos informo del derribo, como lo sabían?
“Malaysia Airlines B777 plane just disappeared and Kiev military authority informed us of the downing, How they knew?”
12:00 – 17 de jul. de 2014 A los 7:00 minutos se notificó el derribo, más tarde se tomó la torre nuestra con personal extranjero q siguen aquí
“7:00 minutes after [plane dissapeared], the downing was notified, later our tower was taken with foreigner staff, they still here ”
12:01 – 17 de jul. de 2014 En los radares esta todo recogido, para los incrédulos, derribado por kiev, aquí lo sabemos y control aéreo militar también
“all this is gathered in radars, to the unbelieving, shot down by kiev, here we know it and military air traffic control also”
13:15 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Aquí los mandos militares manejan y admiten que militares a otras órdenes, pudieron ser, pero no, los pro-rusos
“Here the military commanders manage and support it could be military following other orders , but no, the pro-Russian”
13:29 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El ministro del interior si conocía que, hacían los cazas en la zona, el ministro de defensa no, .
“Interior Minister knew what the fighters were doing in the area, the defense minister didn’t.”
13:31 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Militares confirman que fue ukraine, pero se sigue sin saber de donde vino la orden
“Military confirm It was Ukraine, but still does not know where the order came from”
13:36 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Hace dias lo dije aquí, militares de kiev querían alzarse contra el actual presidente, esto puede ser una forma, a las órdenes de timoshenko
“Days ago I said here, kiev military wanted to rise against the current president, this may be a way, ordered by timoshenko [following timishenko orders]”
13:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Los cazas volaron cerca del 777, hasta 3 minutos antes de desaparecer de los radares, solo 3 minutos
“The fighters flew close to 777, up to 3 minutes before disappearing from the radar, just 3 minutes”
13:43 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Se cierra el espacio aéreo
“Airspace closed”
13:45 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Se cierra el espacio aéreo, por miedo a más derribos
“Airspace is closed, more downings feared”
15:17 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Control militar entrega ahora mismo de forma oficial que el avión fue derribado por misil
“military control now officially [say] the plane was shot down by missile”
15:23 – 17 de jul. de 2014 El informe oficial firmado por las autoridades militares de control de kiev ya lo tiene el gobierno,,,, , derribado
“Government has the official report signed by the control military authorities in Kiev,,,, [plane] shot down”
15:26 – 17 de jul. de 2014 En el informe se indica de donde abría salido el misil, y se especifica que no proviene de las autodefensa en las zonas rebeldes
“The report indicates where the missile had come out [from], and specified is not from the selfdefence in rebel areas”
15:34 – 17 de jul. de 2014Los radares militares si recogieron los datos del misil lanzado al avión, los radares civiles no
“Military radar collected data from missile fired to the plane, civilian radars didn’t”
15:36 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Los altos mandos militares no ordenaron el lanzamiento del misil, ,,alguien se le fue la mano en nombre de ukraine
“military high command did not gave the order to fire the missile, someone screw it ine the name of ukraine”
15:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Para el que no lo sepa, digamos así, hay militares a las órdenes del ministro de defensa y militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior
“For those who do not know, Let’s say, there are military under the orders of the defense minister and military under the orders of Interior Minister”
15:38 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Los militares a las órdenes del ministro del interior conocían en cada momento lo que sucedió, .
“The military under the orders of Interior Minister knew what happened all the time .”
16:06 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Mandos militares aquí (ATC) torre de control, confirman que el misil es del ejercito de ukraine,
“Military commanders here (ATC) control tower, confirm that the missile is from the ukranian army,”
16:07 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Mandos militares que si lo sabían y otros mandos que no,
“military commanders that knew it and others didn´t ,”
16:08 – 17 de jul. de 2014 290 personas inocentes muertas, . Por una guerra inútil, donde el patriotismo se compra con dinero
“290 dead innocent people. What a useless war, where patriotism is bought with money”
16:09 – 17 de jul. de 2014 La forma de tomar la torre de control minutos después sabiendo todo los detalles, rápido nos hizo pensar que habían sido ellos
“Thw way the control tower was taken minutes after & knowing all the details, made us think that they [made it]”
16:10 – 17 de jul. de 2014 La cara de los militares que llegaron más tarde diciendo pero que habéis echo, no dejo dudas
“The face of the soldiers who came later saying [what you just did], no chance for doubts”
16:12 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Es tal la decadencia que los militares acompañados de extranjeros que llegaron primero nos llegaron a pedir que dijéramos su versión
“Such is the decline that military who came first accompanied by foreigners came to us asking us to tell their version”
16:13 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nuestra respuesta, fue, estos radares no recogen el lanzamiento de misiles, los militares si, ya no quedaban dudas
“Our response was, these radars do not collect the launching of missiles, the military ones does, there were no doubts”
This is very interesting. This in fact seems to be a smoking gun. It seems Kiev is guilty of a horrendous crime and indeed looks like a false flag. I believe your right, he is in grave danger. There is more than one government that would not want first hand info like this out.
You look and sound exactly like a fish caught on the hook, line and sinker.
How do you know he’s telling the truth? Or that he is indeed an air traffic controller? I think you’ll find that 99.99% of stories in the news or internet, have no credible 3rd party verification if they have any at all.
Having said that the odds are good it was a Ukraine government thing because the rebels were blamed before anyone knew anything, they did the same with 9/11 with their use of “muslim terrorist attack” every other sentence. You have to watch for those accusations they tell before they know anything, it’s a good clue.
That is an appalling translation. For example: “16:13 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Nuestra respuesta, fue, estos radares no recogen el lanzamiento de misiles, los militares si, ya no quedaban dudas
“Our response was, these radars do not collect the launching of missiles, the military ones does, there were no doubts”
All radars collect and record everything especially air traffic controllers. They have no way to work out what anything is, it’s human operated, not A.I., and cannot fail to record something that has been detected.
It’s suspect, the person making the a claim is showing they know very little about radar and how it’s recorded… Foisted by their own petard.
I knew it wouldn’t be long before Lazy leahz would cut and paste and capatilise on on this subject when people have died – a pathetic human being.
CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. Are you saying no-one should report anything? Im neither defending nor denying her but the more sources of information you have the better your decision making process. Theres certainly plenty of bs going around (as expected with an event of this sort) and time will tell what really occurred, but for the time being all need to be alert so we can sort through this mess to arrive at the truth.
Well you wont get it from here.
That’s for sure. And not from CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. either. It’s a lot of work to find the truth these days, esp. truth that isn’t mixed with lies.
That was my point, HB.
At least she is doing something. And you Mr. Investigative Reporter? Astound us with your in depth analysis. I’m sure you must have something relevant to say. With all the breaking news around the world and you being a foreign correspondent and investigative reporter and all, I would think you wouldn’t have time to read a little ol’ cut ‘n paster like Lyn. Truth is Not Working the Beat she puts you to shame. And check out Liberty’s post above; take your lazy butt and run with that info and blow this wide open or do you not have the quill for it?
“Is it odd to you that We cannot know for sure if our government is telling the truth and many are finding the Russian Government more credible? ”
Erm, no it’s perfectly logical. Actually you can pretty much guarantee they are all lying their arses off in a grand Hollywood style performance. The one thing you’re not going to get is the truth, because it’s all about getting one group of people to forget that other groups of people are human.