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The “Blood Moon” War Commencing Now as Reports Surface of Nukes!? Is the Middle East War About to Fulfill Ezekiel’s Prophecy? Major!!!

Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:35
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By: Lisa Haven

Rumors of an Iran and Israel war have surfaced for years and raised the eye brows of many Bible prophecy scholars. The reason for this is because when it comes to end times the Bible has alot to say about Israel and her neighbors. In fact Iran (which was the Biblical Persia) was specifically mentioned in the Scriptures 2,600 years ago in Ezekiel 38. And today there is talk of three nuclear war heads in Iran, which they could very well use in attempt to ‘wipe Israel off the map’.

 

If one carefully studies the scriptures they can see the alignment and fulfillment of these end times prophecies. In the video below I dive through the possibilities of this war, the nukes in Iran, the link to the blood moons, and what could be ahead….

 

 

 

“Gog and Magog War” that is the dubbed name given by eschatologists to the prophecy found in the book of Ezekiel 38-39. In this prophecy Magog (Russia) and their counterparts unite and rise against the nation of Israel.  We have yet to see the fulfillment of this Biblical prophecy, however today we are witnessing the formation of this alliances.

 

“The word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog [Russia], the chief prince of Meshek and Tubal [Former Soviet States]; prophesy against him and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog [Russia's Leader], chief prince of Meshek and Tubal.” Ezekiel 38:1-3

 

Russia is Magog and Gog is their leader. Meshech and Tubal are believed by many to be the former Soviet States, which includes Ukraine. It is clear according to these Scriptures that the Russian leader will rule over some of the former Soviet States, which is exactly what we witnessing in Ukraine. Furthermore in 2008, Russia invaded the country of Georgia attempting to take the South Ossetia from them. Could these aggressive acts by Russia clue us into Putin’s desire to rebuilt the Soviet Union and fulfill Biblical prophecy?

 

“I will turn you around [Russia and its alliances], put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords.” Ezekiel 38:4

 

Putting hooks, or a bit into the jaw of an animal is a way of forcing the animal, such as a horse, to move in the direction the rider desires. This means that Gog–Russia’s Leader— will unwillingly be influenced to lead this war by God Himself. In other words, circumstances will be such that Gog will have no choice but to follow God’s will.  It is theorized by some eschatologists that Russia could get pulled into the war in attempt to retaliate for an offence committed by Israel to one of their allies.

 

“Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.”Ezekiel 38:5-6

 

Iran is Persia. Cush is Ethiopia and Sudan (Algeria and Tunisia are possible candidates also). Libya is Put. Gomer is Germany and some other European counterparts. Armenia and Turkey are Beth Togarmah. These countries form the rest of the participants in the Gog and Magog War. Ezekiel tells us that this will be a massive army with many people under the leadership of Russians leader, who the Bible dubbed as Gog.

 

Before this portion of the prophecy takes place, however, Russia must govern a portion of the former Soviet States (Ezekiel 38:1-3) which is what we are now witnessing. Russia flexing their muscle to invade Georgia in 2008 and recognizing South Ossetia as an independent state, and invading Ukraine in 2014, with Crimea breaking away and aligning with Russia.

 

One common denominator that we see in this nation alliance, in Ezekiel 38:5-6, is that many are Muslim nations. This is important because at the very core of Islam is the belief that Israel does not have the right to exist. Many believe Allah called them to destroy the Jews and re-take Jerusalem.

 

Furthermore what is interesting is that Persia is listed as Russia’s alliance. Currently, both Russia and Iran are teaming up. But what makes this alliance more unsettling is the fact that Iran is developing nuclear technology and their Islamic ideology suggests that these weapons could be used to destroy Israel and any nation that stands with them.

 

It is believed by many that when Israel feels threatened enough they will strike Iran with nuclear power, which would spark the Gog and Magog War and force Russia into battle in retaliation for their alliance with Iran. At that point many Muslim believing nations: Ethiopia, Sudan, Libya, Turkey, Armenia, parts of Europe and the others, will join in battle with Russia against Israel.

 

“Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog [Russia's Leader]: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.” Ezekiel 38:14-16

 

Israel will be dwelling in their land safety when Russia decides to attack. This could be due to the fact that a ‘peace treaty’ is signed that ushers in “false peace” in Israel. It is this peace-treaty which ignites the start of the Biblical tribulation and aids in ushering in the Antichrist. Either way, whatever makes Israel feel safe, this is what draws Russia into the battle.

 

“‘This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign Lord. In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel.  The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man’s sword will be against his brother.  I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him.  And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.’” Ezekiel 38: 18-23

 

God will reveal Himself in this war through judgment and he will pour out his wrath on the nation of Russia and its allies. He will cause earthquakes, volcanoes, thunderstorms, and the like to fall on  this army. Some eschatologist believe Israel will use nuclear force. Either way, this will be one of the most horrific events in history and it will shake the very foundation of the world.  

 

“Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshek and Tubal.  I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand.  On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and to the wild animals.  You will fall in the open field, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord. I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the Lord.

 

“‘I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the Lord am the Holy One in Israel.  It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign Lord. This is the day I have spoken of.” Ezekiel 39:1-8

 

Critical Reads: You Need to Know What Lies Ahead by Lisa Haven- Click Here! 

 

For More Information:  

Blog Talk Radio Caller: (About 1:49) http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jenniferbrower/2015/01/12/newsmax-mark-langfan-1st-hourthe-israel-project-leslie-ann

Iran Nukes: http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/middle-east/the-arab-world/iranian-dissident-claims-his-country-already-has-nukes-10925

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/27/iran-already-has-nuclear-weapons/?page=all

Blood Moons: http://www.endtime.com/four-blood-moons/

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  • The Gog and Magog prophecies in the Bible are not something that plays out in the dispensation we now find ourselves in. It plays out after the Millennial Reign. Here is the timeline of end time events in regards to the Second Coming, the 1,000 year Millennial Reign, the battle of Gog and Magog, and the new heavens and new earth:

    The Second Coming is when Jesus returns on the clouds:

    “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him…”
    —Revelation 1:7

    That is the end of this age, the end of mankind as we know it. The Second Coming occurs at the 7th trumpet, which coincides with the 3rd woe, which coincides with the rapture, or the meeting of the Lord in the clouds:

    “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
    —1st Thessalonians 4:17

    So believers meet Jesus in the clouds at the Second Coming (rapture) to be with Him forever more. Then the 1,000 year Millennial Reign takes place. Then after the Millennial Reign, Jesus sets foot upon the earth as described in chapter 14 of Zechariah:

    1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
    2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
    3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
    4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
    5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
    6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
    7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

    —Zechariah 14:1-7

    Verses 2 and 3 above are the battle with Gog and Magog, which corresponds with Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 and Revelation chapter 20, which takes place after the 1,000 year Millennial Reign:

    7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
    8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
    9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

    —Revelation 20:7-9

    Notice above in Zechariah 14:6-7, it talks about the unique time, where it is always light. This corresponds to the new heavens and the new earth (which are created after the Millennium) and the new Jerusalem:

    23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
    24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
    25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.

    —Revelation 21:23-25

    So to recap, the Second Coming/rapture occurs and believers meet Jesus in the clouds. It is from heaven where the saints reign over the earth from during the 1,000 year Millennial Reign. And then, after the 1,000 year Millennial Reign, the nations surround Jerusalem and the battle with Gog and Magog takes place where God utterly destroys them and Jesus sets foot upon the mount of Olives. And then the new heavens and new earth are created and the New Jerusalem comes down out of heaven and this is the unique time where there is no night in the New Jerusalem. It is then when the sons of God rule and reign over the earth from the New Jerusalem.

    • Want to explain your incorrect use of ‘gog and magog’? In fact, it is ‘gog OF magog’, a direct reference to the Prince (or king, ruler, etc.) of Magog, and a reference to not only the leadership but the lands of what is now Eastern Russia down to Turkey.

      The prophecy is that this ‘old territory’ will be led by ‘Gog’ South, into various areas now ideally noted as Syria, Jordan, Western Iraq and even to the borders of Israel, because of an ‘out-of-control’ power lust that he ‘must pursue’ (i.e.: hooks in his mouth).

      Again, get it right if you actually want to understand what the true signs will be. We aren’t there yet, until Gog goes against Israel.

      • “Want to explain your incorrect use of ‘gog and magog’? In fact, it is ‘gog OF magog’”

        Try looking at REV 20:8, which says, and I quote “Gog, and Magog”. So please stop pretending you know what you’re talking about.

      • Ever notice how, the closer we get to the end of the age, the more fellas want to throw out the Book of Revelation?

      • Yep BEEF. And it should be the complete opposite, there’s a blessing for just reading it.

    • I was about to get on here an type this same thing. Revelation 20 says this battle if after the millennium.

      Here’s something that I researched and found after God himself told me that there was no pre tribulation rapture.

      Daniel 9:24-27 “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”

      BC1491 {The children of Israel left Egypt(Scofield bible)}
      + AD1967 (Israel got Jerusalem back)
      _______________
      3458 years

      3458 / 70 = 49 This is 70 seventy sets of 49 years.

      The 49th year of the 70th week begins in 2016, ending sometime in 2017.

      3458 / 70 weeks equals 49 years per week.

      7 weeks 7 x 49 = 343
      AD1557(the eastern gate blocked)
      – 343
      _______________
      AD1214

      7 sets of 49 years. Around AD1214, Sultan Malik-al-Muattam rebuilt the walls of Jerusalem the first time only to have them destroyed again by other Muslims. These people have been fighting for years over which branch of Islam will be leader of their Caliphate. Then Suleiman had them built again.

      62 weeks

      The 62nd week, where Messiah was cut off would fall not around his crucifixion, but sometime around AD1547. In 1541 the walls of Jerusalem were rebuilt by Suleiman the magnificent, an Islamic Caliph(or maybe his father, Selim). Then around AD1547, the Eastern gate was closed, blocked with huge stones, and a graveyard was set up in front of it. Dates vary from site to site but all of this can be found on the internet. They say this was an attempt to keep the Elijah from coming back. Jewish people don’t walk across graves or something. None-the-less, Messiah was cut off. These idiots did not realize that when Yeshua comes back, there will be an earthquake that will move every stone out of its place, then Yeshua will raise the dead with the brightness of his coming, for he is the resurrection and the life. These were futile attempts to keep Messiah out. Ezekiel 44 tells you this gate is closed.

      62 x 49 = 3038

      BC 1491 (The Children of Israel exit Egypt)
      + AD 1547 (Caliph Suleiman blocked the eastern gate, Messiah cut off)
      ____________
      3038 years
      3038 years / 49 years = 62 weeks of 49 years each.

      Since the last week of 49 years started in 1967, the middle of that week would have been 1991. We have to divide 49 in half and see where the covenant was broken.

      49 / 2 = 24.5

      AD1967
      + 24.5
      _________________
      1991

      God gave them the land back and the USA along with the UN forced them to divide the land back up. They gave the Palestinians some of it. They broke the covenant and let part of the land go back to the Muslims. It looks like we may force them to give back even more of it resulting in the whole world coming against Israel. The United States has no authority to take the land from the Jews but Osama Bin Bama is going to try. This will be the end as Netinyahu says he will continue to build Jewish settlements in the Palestinian regions, he says he will not obey these people and this shows you that God is behind him.

      Benjamin Netinyahu: Prime Minister of Israel.
      Benjamin Strongs H1444
      בִּנְיָמִין Binyamiyn
      I.Benjamin = “son of the right hand”

      Netanyahu is a derivative of Nethaniah
      Strongs H5418
      נְתַנְיָה Nĕthanyah
      I.Nethaniah = “given of Jehovah”

      Has the man of sin been revealed? Was Yeshua hinting at who that man would be?

      Barack Obama: President of the USA
      Barak Strongs H1301
      בָּרָק Baraq
      I.Barak = “lightning” or “lightning flash”

      Obama Strongs H1116
      בָּמָה bamah
      I.high place, ridge, height, bamah (technical name for cultic platform)
      This is the only time this word is in the bible.

      When Yeshua returned to heaven with the sacrifice completed, the accuser was tossed out.

      Luke 10:18 “And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.”

      Do you think this is coincidence with the name of these two men?

      AD1967 (Israel got Jerusalem back)
      – 1335 (Daniel 12:12)
      __________________
      AD 632 (Muhammad died and Abu Bakr took over as caliph or leader and Islam was born.)

      AD1967 (Israel got Jerusalem back)
      – 1290 (Daniel 12:11)
      _______________
      AD 677 (Construction started on the Dome of the Rock.)

      AD1967 (Israel got Jerusalem back)
      – AD 707 (Construction on the mosque sitting on the temple mount was completed)
      __________________________
      1260

      The mosque sitting on the temple mount is the abomination that causes desolation. Mark tells you that it will be an “IT,” not a “HIM”

      Mark 13:14 “But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:”

      I have spent the last year studying Islam and this all started because in the middle of 2013, God himself told me there was no pre tribulation rapture. I have read their Qur’an several times and most of their Hadiths.

      Their Mahdi, 12th and final Imam, is our antichrist. Could this be Obama?
      Their Isa, fake Jesus will be our false prophet who will come back to convince the world that he did not die and has been in heaven with God the whole time.

      Some of the Islamic hadiths say that their black stone is supposed to come to life and speak to tell us that the only true religion was always supposed to be Islam, even though it only began around AD632, our image of the beast in Revelation.

      They hate women, and say that 70% of the occupants of hell will be women. They rape, beat, stone, and sexually mutilate women. Daniel 11:37 “…..nor the desire of women…”

      The say they are the children of Muhammad, who is the son of Kedar, who is the son of Ishmael, who is the son of Abraham. They do not worship the God of their fathers Daniel 11:37 “Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers…nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.”

      They are trying to enforce their holy days and their Sharia laws on the rest of the world. Obama already tried to move Christmas from its date in December to sometime in January, not that this date is really the birth date of Yeshua but that idiot does not know this.

      In Revelation 12:6 “And the woman (Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.”

      America maybe?

      Daniel 7:4 “The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.”

      In the original text there were no chapters and verses but in God’s divine wisdom look where he put this Daniel 7:4 7/4 July 4th, our Independence Day?

      Revelation 11:2 “But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.”

      42 months x 30 days =1260 days or 3 1/2 years. This could have started in the middle of the year 2012 when Obama was re-elected?

      Could the death of the two witnesses be when Islam kills both Judaism(Jews) and Christianity(Christians)?

      We are about to go through some major persecution.

      The mark of the beast will be the very last thing.

      In chapter 13 of Revelation you see the antichrist saying that we will have to take the mark.

      Revelation 13:7,8;15-17 “And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world… And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

      but…… right as this starts to happen, Yeshua comes back, with his 144,000, not the pre tribulation raptured saints.

      Revelation 14:1 “And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.”

      Yeshua is here in our presence at this point and no one will be able to deny him. The angel is screaming, “Worship God, don’t take the mark.”
      Revelation 14:7-10 “Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:”

      Don’t even think about the Battle of Armageddon for Revelation 20 lays out the course of events. The Battle of Armageddon will not occur according to the 20th chapter of Revelation until after the Millennium. Also, according to the 20th chapter of Revelation only those who are beheaded, or otherwise martyred will see the millennium with Christ.

      “And they loved not their lives unto the death.”

      “Blessed are they which die in the Lord.”

      Wake up, people, we do not have long and it’s going to get really bad from here on out. We are living the fourth seal right now, it looks like!

  • The problem with this scenario, is that the people who are inhabiting Israel are not descended from the ancient Israelis. They are descended from none other than Esau- the brother of Israel, and Turkish tribes that converted to Judaism many centuries ago. The ARE however, mentioned in the Bible in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. They are referred to as the “Jews who are not Jews, but are of the synagogue of Satan”. This people group originated from…… the area that is now called Russia!!! THEY are the invaders who invaded the land of Israel. They are not descended from Jacob AKA Israel. They are anti-Christian, anti-Christ, and their bogus “star of David” (which has absolutely NOTHING to do with David) stands for 666. This is the deception that deceives the whole world.

    • The jews no longer exist, except as a zionist nightmare resurrected by the Rothschild crime syndicate.
      Their lineages were destroyed by Titus in 70 AD. Their house was left unto them desolate. The fig tree which refers to them was cursed by no less a personage than the Son of God, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. “Let there be no fruit from thee henceforth for ever”. The returning nobleman in the parable required that His enemies be brought before Him and slain. And again, “The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof”. John the Baptist prophesied about them, “And now also, the axe is laid unto the roots of the trees”. When a root is struck, there is no hope whatsoever of regeneration or renewal.
      The anathemas are legion. “Let Me alone, that I may destroy them, and blot out their name from under heaven, and I will make of thee a nation mightier and greater than they”.
      “For thus saith the Lord of Hosts, even so, will I break this city and this people, as one breaketh a potter’s vessel, that cannot be made whole again.”
      Jeremiah informs us that the jews did “nothing” of all that YHVH commanded them. ( 32, 23 )
      Those who promulgate a gospel containing the fleshly jew in any way, are of the spirit of antichrist.
      The nation of Israel that Lisa refers to therefore, is not the fleshly race, defined by the antichrists presently dwelling in the stolen Promised Land.
      It is that nation, rather, referred to in 1 Peter 2, 9-10.

      For the avoidance of doubt, there is no millennial reign of Christ upon this earth.
      Revelation 20, 1-7, is the only place in the NT where this alleged period of time is mentioned; and we require the witness of two for doctrinal certitude. John informs us that at His return, “All that are in the tombs shall hear His voice and come forth”; ie there is only one resurrection therefore, not two, as millennialists imagine.
      There is a time of Tribulation; there is a rapture of the saints, and then there is a time of vengeance; the Day of the Lord.
      Paul at 1 Cor 15, 23 refers to Christs’s coming, “Then cometh the end”.
      “The day” in which He will be revealed is echoed by “the day”in which Noah entered the Ark, and “the day” in which fire and brimstone rained down on Sodom.
      “In like manner shall it be in the day that the Son of Man is revealed”.
      The saints of God will be allowed to understand that scripture, that “Where I am, there you may be also”. Note that we go to Him; He does not come to us. This place is the New Earth, upon which will descend the new Jerusalem.
      And beneath our feet, consumed in the inferno of the Old Earth, the wicked will be burned to ashes; they will return to that earth, their thoughts will perish; the memory of them will be forgotten.

      • HereAmI,

        I am curious as to how you fit in your theology with what Paul said of the Jews in chapter 11 of Romans. All of the following verses are from Romans chapter 11:

        Paul told us that God has not forsaken the Israelites:

        1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

        And God always keeps a remnant:

        5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

        Their unbelief at this time is according to God’s plan:

        8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

        But they have not stumbled to their ruin, as you have implied:

        11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

        The Jews are God’s beloved because of the patriarchs:

        22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

        23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

        24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

        25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

        26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

        27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

        28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father’s sakes.

        —Romans 11

      • HereAmI wrote:

        “For the avoidance of doubt, there is no millennial reign of Christ upon this earth. Revelation 20, 1-7, is the only place in the NT where this alleged period of time is mentioned; and we require the witness of two for doctrinal certitude.”

        You really find no witness for Revelation 20:1-7?

        Isaiah 24:22-23

        “And they [the host of the high ones and the kings of the earth] shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited….

        “Then the Moon shall be confounded, and the Sun ashamed, when YHWH Sabaoth shall reign in Mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before His ancients gloriously.”

        And if the ‘shabua’ (the ‘week’ of seven days) is any indication – six thousand years (6 days – 2 Peter 3:8) is followed by the seventh millennium, aka the Seventh ‘Day’ SABBATH, and Messiah is LORD ALSO of the Sabbath.

        Too bad you choose not to directly answer any of these conversations you start. Then you might like to explain how it is you believe Revelation 20:1-7 could possibly be wrong. Seems to me that passage HAS to be right. And there are plenty of witnesses for it written throughout the Testaments.

        I will look for hints of a reply in your future postings.

      • ERROR in HereAmI’s TIMELINE, who said:

        “There is a time of Tribulation; there is a rapture of the saints, and then there is a time of vengeance; the Day of the Lord.”

        It is the tribulation period, the three woes, which are the time of vengeance known as the Day of the Lord, and that vengeance concludes with the third woe, the exclamation point at the end of this age commonly known as the Second Coming when Jesus comes riding on the clouds as per REV 1:7 and those who welcome Him will meet Him in the clouds at that time to be with Him forever more amen! Hallelujah!

      • “I will look for hints of a reply in your future postings.”

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re72di5phM0

        :lol:

  • just more fear porn to controll you and your thoughts. illuminati is looseing controll so they need a new peal harbor just like 911 ,fear allows them eazy controll, the more they feel their looseing it the more of this you see, it worked for them for years so dont think they wont try it again.

  • That “wipe Israel off the map” meme that you and others continue to push, has been debunked for years. It’s something used by racists, warmongers and fans of Apartheid-
    If you want people to take you seriously, stop lying, or stop believing everything you’re told because it fits your pre-existing bias’.

    • max jones

      ….Attention doubters…..Look around you, what do you see? Its coming, just like the Lord laid out. Nothing you can do about it. Do you really want to go on like its been going on…..Why? There is a better home waiting for you. A better YOU waiting for you too. repent…take part….be free. :cool:

  • TWF

    It always seems that when it comes to prophecy of WWIII, that Russia is the bad guy. Why? Russia is no longer the Marxist, Bolshevic, Jewish, Communist state. In fact, if you study who, what, and where about Putin’s background you will learn he was used to route those intrenched oligarchs out. And he is still trying to get the central bank (which is connected to the IMF, World Bank, etc…) close down. More than I can say for Americans.

    I find this dialectic quite often in judeo/christian circles (by the way I am a believer, so you can’t call me a heretic).
    The reason this happens is the need to fit a pre-determined agenda into the prophecy. Now, let me play the devil’s advocate here (on myself). I too believe Russia will be involved, BUT not for the reason you mistakenly purport.

    The American government is now the bad guys. I mean that literally. But that does not mean the people are corrupt. It means we have lost control (for various reasons not pertinent to the discussion) of our government. All peaceful redress of grievances available, ie – voting people in both congress and senate, courts, etc… are broken. Now we have a rogue government that is making regular Americans enemies of the world.

    Then comes along Putin. Using strong arm tactics against former oligarchs that had control on Russia from former communist Marxist days. When he removes people like the criminal head of Yukos oil, he gets labeled commie.

    Putin is not perfect but thumpers need to get over the “Good Ol’ Days”, because Russia is no longer communist.
    I had my doubts for a long time, but researched it and changed my mind.

    Now before you say I”m ill informed let me say this. I have smuggeled Bibles into communist countries, I got caught, but I escaped. So I know a commie country when I see one.

    Here is what will happen; America will attack Russia first because of those that dictate American policy, and that isn’t the American people. Russia will be forced to defend itself, and will win. And by the way Russia never attacked the Ukraine. And they only annexed Crimea after those people voted nearly unanimously to do so. And why not let them do what they want. Who are we to say they cannot execute their will.

    If Texas or any other state vote to leave the USA, tons of good Americans would move there because of what is happening in the USA.

    So, get over the fact that Russia is the bad guy, it’s America that is the bad guy. And as a believer do you really think God will ignore the corporate sins of this nation? I think not !!!

    • max jones

      ….HereamI….My studies tell me a story.
      A couple of hundred years before the birth of Christ, the Government and priestly duties in Israel, were taken over by Kenites. They were in charge when Jesus was killed. Sorcerers…practitioners of Satanic magic: as a family heirloom. These were the people Jesus addressed when He referred to the son’s of Cain (first murderer), and “synagogue of Satan”.
      …These priests organized and refined their father’s mysticism, and found dark power. There were very, very few hereditary Jews, involved with temple activities after this time.
      ….If the Rothchilds got this same strain of Satanism, called Talmudic magic, they got it from Benedictine monks, or the Swiss Guard, coming home from the holy land, late in the Crusades. Or from priests, disguised as refugees.
      …..How far back can we trace the Rothchilds? Where and when did they become such a power?
      ….Since the Nation of Israel was wrecked by Titus, this dark knowledge probably found a way into the Catholic church, also. A very valuable commodity.
      ….It would not surprise me if the illuminatti, and the Masons are tangled in it, too.
      ….All these outfits seem to have the same smell…. :cool:

      • Wrong Reply button max? :wink: :lol:

        Seriously max, to put things in perspective, in the end, all that stuff you mention, all the conspiracy and commotion and whatnot, it does not matter because all the trash is going to be picked up and thrown into the fire that never goes out on the Day of Judgment.

        And it matters not what those who belong to the darkness do in the end times for at the very end of the end times, the light wins and darkness loses:

        /prophecy/2013/10/shocking-nephilim-reptilians-watchers-things-that-go-bump-in-the-night-underground-beings-the-days-of-noah-spooky-not-2454990.html

      • max jones

        …123…hey bud, since I’ll be here with the Holy Spirit, as we together stand before the devil…I look at it as “takin’ the trash out, too.
        …Preacher told me one time…”You don’t need to read the book of Revelation…boy…we gonna fly outa here, long before that stuff happens.” uh huh, right…..
        …..There’s a danger in making your beliefs determine your interpretation of scripture…Its supposed to be the other way around.
        …You believe you won’t be tempted…Jesus was tempted. Why not you? That is exactly what the PTR is….its a temptation to take the easy way out of this mess… that we ALL are responsible for, by the way.
        ….Now, you could rapture your butt out of here tomorrow, that’s fine….but i know what i have to do.
        I’ve waited too long for this….I was made for these times. :cool:

      • “…You believe you won’t be tempted…Jesus was tempted. Why not you? That is exactly what the PTR is”

        You’ve got me scratching my head max :roll:

        I mean the above was not addressed to me right? You were addressing someone else perhaps? :wink: :lol:

      • max jones

        …123…it says 123…..

      • max jones

        …123….I got confused with your usage of the word ‘rapture’…..I thought you were a NoPTR? But I went back and read it again, and there you were …you little rascal. I’d like to find another word for rapture…..the way you used it….i got confused. :cool:

      • Surely you don’t think I subscribe to the PTR do you max? :wink:

        Was there ever a post you’ve seen where I have done so?

        Obviously you don’t even pay attention to these threads you jump in max and shoot off your mouth about things in such a haphazard manner and many times without Scriptural backing, and in this case, with a clear case of mistaken identity or complete obliviousness as anyone who is a regular reader of the rapture threads here on BIN knows. I guess you haven’t seen any of the discussions I’ve had with, for example, HumanBeing on BIN? Perhaps you are just joking, right max? I mean, just what was it to lead you to the belief that I subscribe to the PTR? Was it perhaps one of the articles I reference in many of my posts in the PTR threads here on BIN, like this one perhaps:

        “RAPTURE ALERT: Millions of Christians have been deceived!”

        /alternative/2013/02/rapture-alert-millions-of-christians-have-been-deceived-2561260.html

        …or this one:

        “The Pre-tribulation Rapture Trap”

        /spirit/2013/02/the-pre-tribulation-rapture-trap-2475160.html

        …or this one perhaps:

        /spirit/2013/04/hows-your-eschatology-good-it-had-better-be-2476720.html

      • “i got confused”

        I’ll say :wink: :lol:

      • Here is my definition of the rapture max, this specific event:

        15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

        16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

        17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

        —1 THESSALONIANS 4-15-17

      • “I’d like to find another word for rapture”

        How about yahoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
        :lol:

      • max jones

        …123…These black magic tyrants are affecting all we do. Maybe I’m champing at the bit. You’re probably right. I find the whole story fascinating….The violence all around us IS THEM.
        …so that brings another subject to mind….How much “prepping” to do…and how about weapons? to help protect our families?…. :cool:

      • max jones

        …123…I love you ,man….please gimme a break….. I had a heavy day with my mom…she’s harder to watch when she’s feeling good, I’ve been chasing her around the house all day. she’s 83, and has alzheimers..maybe I caught it :oops:

      • “…123…I love you ,man….please gimme a break…..”

        I hear ya max no problem. Just let grace find you and give you the strength you need to do what you need to do I’ll agree to that with you in Jesus name amen?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqd8MoiCbcI

        “How much “prepping” to do”

        As much as you can reasonably do, I mean it never hurts to buy extra toilet paper, toothpaste, and other supplies does it?

        “…and how about weapons?”

        That would be an affirmative :wink: :lol:

        Once the doo doo hits the fan and the economy collapses, weapons will be very desirable will they not? You don’t think the police will be able to get to everyone that needs them do you? And did not Jesus tell His disciples to buy a sword, the gun of their day? If they had guns back then, Jesus would have told them to pack heat.

        Do whatever you can and give the rest to Him and He will give you rest in Him!

      • max jones

        …123…Yeah…been stocking up on staples…right I’ve got a baseball bat and a katana. I want a shotgun, I thought about trading a guitar for one, but I can’t yet. I’m :cool: hoping to have a use for guitars.

      • “I want a shotgun, I thought about trading a guitar for one, but I can’t yet.”

        Here’s a thought max, maybe you can combine the two:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBmwUTjAYes

  • There was several blood moons that nothing happened. And beside THEE Gospel has not gone out two all the world yet. Specifically two two countries, CUBA and NORTH KOREA!

    WHEN THEY FALL (and they will) GET READY. We don’t need no frigg ‘n blood moon for that.

    Two-ting my horn…. 2 -2 `t!

  • Lisa, this is what Ezekiel 38:11 says: And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

    Is Israel at rest? Is Israel a land with unwalled villages? A walled village is a village that has a military defense. Israel is not at rest, has a powerful military and is NOT dwelling safely at all. It is UTTERLY IMPOSSIBLE that the Ezekiel 38 war could happen at this moment. CAREFULLY READ the Bible.

    • max jones

      …Spirtitual Israel is not Israel in the middle east….It is the inheritors of the blood of the ten northern tribes of the ‘diaspora’…..basically it means you and i, and our brothers and sisters in Christ. Ezekiel 38 could….happen at any time, during the season of the locust. :cool:

  • Israel should be whipped off the map!

  • Haven doesn’t like Veterans posts to educate her ass on the Military.

  • ALL RELIGIONS ARE FALSE AND SHOULD BE DESTROYED! WE ARE NOT IN THE END TIMES! THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A RAPTURE! GOD OR JESUS IS NOT GOING TO SAVE ANYONE! THERE IS NO SATAN OR ANTICHRIST! THERE IS NO GOOD OR BAD! EVERYBODY GOES TO HEAVEN TO BE WITH GOD! DO AS YOU WILL, WITHOUT ANY FEAR OF ANY JUDGEMENT! THIS IS THE TRUTH! HANDLE IT!

  • Actually ‘Gog and Magog’ do not refer to Russia. it’s been proven that this assertion comes from a false interpretation of later texts. It comes from ‘Gugu and Magugu’ which mean ‘Gyges (of Lydia) and his Land (ma)’, who was a King of Lydia. What is Lydia ? A region in the center of Turkey, near Phrygia.

  • “The word of the Lord came to me: “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog [Russia], the chief prince of Meshek and Tubal [Former Soviet States]; prophesy against him and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog [Russia's Leader], chief prince of Meshek and Tubal.” Ezekiel 38:1-3

    Meshek and Tubal are in Turkey and not in Former Soviet States]
    But you probably already knew that and did on purpose just to have more clicks.

  • to me MaGog and Gog is so obviously America and Israel

  • Ashmine

    “Persia” means the empire, not just Iran. The bible doesn’t say that Gog or Magog have anything to do with Russia or the USSR. The bible also doesn’t mention “blood moons”. That’s why the notion had to be conveniently “revealed” to Mark Biltz in 2008. The bible does mention that the sun will turn black and the moon red. But, this pertains to a solar and lunar eclipse happening simultaneously. Hence the chaos that ensues it, which includes a third of the stars falling like meteors. This dual eclipse will be Jesus’ sign of his deity, power, and coming vengeance. But, the liars that want to establish the visions, aka the Illuminati, have come up with false teachings to make it seem like prophecy is being fulfilled. Of course, they skew the events to suit their luciferian religion. For they want to establish the Antichrist’s kingdom. The irony is that, a, there have always been groups of the sons of belial trying to establish the visions, and b, they have always failed. Knowing how these people are, Jesus told us that when we see wars, earthquakes, famine, etc, we shouldn’t think that the end has come. For, such events have and always will occur. That’s also why Jesus went on to say that we need to only pay attention to one sign, ie when the abomination of desolation stands in the holy place. We know from Daniel that this is when the Antichrist will sit in the third temple as God. It’s only then that we will know that we are living in the final stage of the end times. Until then, we don’t know if it’ll be another 3000 years before the prophesied events occur. If you truly want to escape Satan’s deceit, you must let go of all modern bibles and their associated teachers, teachings, concordances, commentaries, etc. And, you must let go of man’s traditions. Ask God for wisdom and understanding, only read the King James bible, and have faith. Only then will you truly be free of Satan’s lies.

  • It isn’t Russia. Never was. Never will be. This crap sprang from cold war propaganda.

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