| Online: | |
| Visits: | |
| Stories: |
| Story Views | |
| Now: | |
| Last Hour: | |
| Last 24 Hours: | |
| Total: | |
Horus Verses Jesus. Was Jesus A Real Person? And Does Such Information Help Evolve Your Soul In Truth?
Source: Is it Spiritual Nonsense? Divine Love Spirituality – blog
The information below (in purple) is from an email to me.
It summarises a lot of what is said against the existence of Jesus, and against what is attributed to Jesus.
Personally I don’t dispute the information, however I do believe Jesus is real and did come with Mary Magdalene all those years ago.
And I find what’s said helpful in unraveling the mystery as to how the Catholic Church in particular and a lot of what’s in the Bible came about, shedding light on the doctoring of information over the years. All of which I’m not really interested in.
I only care about whether the information will or won’t help one evolve their soul in truth; and whether “Jesus is a mythical figure in the tradition of pagan mythology”, doesn’t have that much to do with it.
For me, everything about my spiritual growth changed when I read the Padgett Messages; and even whether or not it is actually the real Jesus speaking with James Padgett – for how can one really tell?, what is said in those messages had a profound effect upon me. And from my own experiences, when the Divine Love flows into your soul there is no disputing it.
I did what Jesus in the Padgett Messages said – I longed for the Divine Love; and I felt it come into my soul, and so that was enough for me. I believed what Jesus in the Padgett Messages said, I did what he said to do, and I still do it, and it’s greatly enhanced my soul condition.
How I tend to look at the information below is that owing to the Rebellion and Default, the Mother and Father sent Mary and Jesus to Earth so as to give them the greatest most beneficial experience they could have helping them become the best and most sympathetic rulers possible of their universe Nebadon (this being largely covered in The Urantia Book).
And the Mother and Father also knew, it being what They wanted, that we humanity wouldn’t be able to readily accept Mary and Jesus because of being in rebellion against them. So we’d take all Mary and Jesus said and turn it into more rebellion against them, as that’s how we were, and it’s how we still are – rebellious. So to give us a helping hand in that, what better way than to incarnate Jesus into a family and situation similar to that of Horus and all that had gone before.
So Jesus could say who he was, and we humanity could take what he said basing it on Horus and others before him, thereby misinterpreting it all and producing the anti-truth religions we have today that say they are supposedly following Jesus.
If we are to maximise our evilness, to indulge thoroughly in our denial of the truth, so deny the ones who are the greatest truth in Nebadon – Mary and Jesus, then what better way than to make up false religions based on them, which purport to ‘do as Jesus said’ yet will if adhered to, only lead one further against the very person one is supposed to be following.
It couldn’t be a better masterful ploy to keep the Rebellion going, because we had to do something to reject Mary and Jesus, so why not pretend we are doing what they said when in truth we are doing the very opposite.
Anyway, if one wants to get caught up in whether there was a real Jesus or not, or whether it’s all really Horus or someone else, that’s fine, but it’s still all mind stuff, which is still doing exactly what the Rebellious Ones want you to do – keep busy in your mind so you keep your mind off your feelings. Tie your mind up with meaningless things that are made to seem important, all so you don’t have to face the truth of your feelings.
However I do think the truth of what did go on concerning Jesus is important, and a lot of people have done a lot of hard work with the evidence available to them, and it needs to be respected; but still, as I said, all I’m concerned with, which is why I’m writing about this, is to show that really it’s only about whether or not you are advancing your soul in truth, and that being, truth coming up within you from your own feelings.
When I met Marion and she told me about the importance of feelings, how they are the way to uncover the truth of myself, and how much I was denying them; and then having worked on my Feeling Healing over the years, I’ve come to see that this way of living – fully honouring, expressing and seeking the truth of your feelings, together with longing for the Divine Love, involves the only two things that give real tangible spiritual results – I can feel my soul evolving – growing in truth.
And on a daily basis, whereas nothing I did before these things, nothing religious or in the New Age made me feel how I do now. Nothing helped me change how I am, nothing helped me truly feel better about myself, nothing made me feel like I am actually healing my evilness and working my way toward becoming true.
The final thing I want to say, thanking The Urantia Book for it, is more about understanding what the Spirit of Truth is. From my personal speaking with Mary and Jesus (and how can I be sure they are who they say the are?), and their explaining more about the Spirit of Truth, it becomes essential that we do actually, and very personally, accept Mary and Jesus, as being both real and who they say they are; and then more importantly, want to be like them, want to ‘follow’ them. And as we do by longing for the truth of our feelings, so this allows their Spirits of Truth to become ‘active’ within us, thereby helping us see the truths as they saw them. And without such help from their Spirits of Truth everything would be that much more difficult so far as seeing and understanding the truth.
So then it does come down to our having to personally decide whether or not we accept Mary and Jesus (and both of them, not just Jesus or Mary), and whether we want to be the truth as they are. And if we do, then it is to our feelings we are to look so as to uncover those truths for ourselves, just as they looked to their feelings uncovering the truth for themselves.
So if you continue to deny Mary and Jesus, and by deny them I mean, deny yourself access to the help of their Spirits of Truth, so don’t want to follow them and be like them in truth, then you are putting off your soul growth, denying yourself the truths and information that will come to light through your feelings.
It’s no good just ‘believing’ in Jesus, Mary and Jesus, or just Mary. A mere belief that they are real does nothing for you. It’s actively seeking the truth through your feelings that is the way, just as it was for them. We have to do what they did to uncover the truths they uncovered.
And what they did was seen in how they attended to their feelings, expressing them fully whilst looking to them for their truth.
They didn’t get all caught up in their mind. Certainly they used their minds to their optimum, but all in support of their feelings and not helping to deny their feelings. Mary and Jesus didn’t shy away from or block out any bad feelings, they allowed themselves to feel them, they didn’t resist them, and so the truths they needed to see surfaced in them, just as it will in you when you stop rebelling against the truth of your own feelings.
To end our personal rebellion against the truth, which is against the truth of ourselves – so our own soul, means we will end our rebellion against our feelings. We will stop denying ourselves all we are to feel, going with our feelings into wherever they take us within ourselves, and see all they are to show us. Which means going into our childhood and seeing how unloved we actually were, bringing to light the whole trauma of our wrongness.
And as we end the rebellion against ourselves, so too will we be ending our rebellion against Mary and Jesus, and so too against our Mother and Father.
But we have to start with ourselves. And even if you don’t know about Mary and Jesus’ existence but still long for the truth of your feelings, you’ll still gain the help you need from their Spirits of Truth, because it’s not them, themselves, that is important or who are the important ones, it’s the TRUTH that is ONLY important.
So as long as you long and want with all your heart the Truth, and look to your feelings for it, you’ll make spiritual headway. Mary and Jesus are the only way to the truth, they are examples of being the Living Truth we can look to, but they are not our ‘parents’ or controllers, they are only showing us the way by being the Living Examples of the Way of Truth.
So no matter what information might come your way, long for the truth of the feelings that it stirs up and makes you feel, and then you’ll be able to work out, again through your feelings, what it is you actually think and feel and understand about the information. So if it sits well with you and ‘rings true’ you’ll keep it, and if it doesn’t you’ll discard it. And you might pick it up and drop it a few times as you keep going growing in truth through your feelings before you feel fully settled as to what you do think and feel about it.
So as you read what is below, if any feelings, particularly any bad ones, surface, then allow yourself to fully feel them, don’t shy away from them; then try and express those feelings the best you can speaking (or writing if you have no one to speak to about such things) about all you feel; and whilst you do, long for the truth those feelings are to show you about yourself.
“What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!”– Pope Leo X
(As attributed by John Bale, Bishop of Ossory, in The Pageant of Popes, p. 179, 1574)
Shocking as it may seem to the general populace, the most enduring and profound controversy in the subject of Christianity is whether or not a person named Jesus Christ ever really existed!
“Jesus is a mythical figure in the tradition of pagan mythology and almost nothing in all of ancient literature would lead one to believe otherwise. Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it.” – C. Dennis McKinsey, The Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy
“There is not a conception associated with Christ that is not common to some or all of the Savior cults of antiquity.” – JM Robertson, Pagan Christs
“The gospel story is an artificial, non-historical work. It has been fabricated from source materials that can be identified and traced to their incorporation into the gospels. There is not a particle of hard evidence that ‘Jesus of Nazareth’ ever existed. – Harold Leidner, The Fabrication of the Christ Myth
What do these people know that the Church isn’t telling you?
“Prayers offered up in Christian worship in the earliest days of the faith were addressed to ‘Our Lord the Sun,’ evidencing that ‘primitive’ Christians were quite in the spirit of Pagan forms and ideologies.”– Alvin Boyd Kuhn, Easter: The Birthday of the Gods
“The Christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: Both are derived from the worship of the Sun. The difference between their origin is, that the Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.” – Thomas Paine, Age of Reason
“The Sun has attracted the attention of mankind for adoration all over the world from the very beginning of human history. It has attained the position of pre-eminence among the deities of nature in ancient times. The prominence and glory of the solar orb, its beauty and splendour, its importance in the creation and maintenance of life, its regularity in diffusing light and enlightening the whole earth, its primal role in the cosmic evolution and consequent mystery surrounding it, had secured for the Sun a history of interest and importance equalled by none to which every age and every race has contributed its pages.”– V.C. Srivastava, Sun-Worship in Ancient India
Could it be that Jesus Christ is another mythical god in the long line of other mythical gods, like Hercules and Zeus?
Introducing The Christ Conspiracy
Contrary to popular belief, there was no single man at the genesis of Christianity but many characters rolled into one, the majority of whom were personifications of the ubiquitous solar myth, whose exploits were well known, as reflected by such popular deities as Mithra, Heracles/Hercules, Dionysus and many others throughout the Roman Empire and beyond.
The story of Jesus as portrayed in the Gospels is revealed to be nearly identical in certain details to that of the earlier savior-gods Krishna and Horus, et al., who for millennia preceding Christianity held great favor with the people in much the same way as Jesus does today.
Thus, the Jesus character is not unique or original, not “divine revelation.” These redeemer tales are similar not because they reflect the actual exploits of a variety of men who did and said the identical things, but because they are representations of the same extremely ancient body of knowledge that revolved around the celestial bodies and natural forces. The result of this myth making has been The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold.
In this highly controversial and explosive book, independent scholar of comparative religion and mythology, historian and linguist D.M. Murdock, aka “Acharya S,” marshals an enormous amount of startling evidence to demonstrate that Christianity and the story of Jesus Christ were created by members of various secret societies, mystery schools and religions in order to unify the Roman Empire under one state religion. In making such a fabrication, this multinational cabal drew upon a multitude of myths and rituals that already existed long before the Christian era, and reworked them for centuries into the story and religion passed down today.
The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold today!
Excerpts from The Christ Conspiracy
From the very beginning of our quest to unravel the Christ conspiracy, we encounter suspicious territory, as we look back in time and discover that the real foundation of Christianity appears nothing like the image provided by the clergy and mainstream authorities. Indeed, far more rosy and cheerful than the reality is the picture painted by the vested interests as to the origins of the Christian religion: To wit, a miracle-making founder and pious, inspired apostles who faithfully and infallibly recorded his words and deeds shortly after his advent, and then went about promulgating the faith with great gusto and success in “saving souls.” Contrary to this popular delusion, the reality is that, in addition to the enormous amount of bloodshed which accompanies its foundation, Christianity’s history is rife with forgery and fraud. So rampant is this treachery and chicanery that any serious researcher must immediately begin to wonder about the story itself. In truth, the Christian tale has always been as difficult to swallow as the myths and fables of other cultures; yet countless people have been able to overlook the rational mind and to willingly believe it, even though they may equally as easily dismiss the nearly identical stories of these other cultures….
We have seen that there is no evidence for the historicity of the Christian founder, that the earliest Christian proponents were as a whole either utterly credulous or astoundingly deceitful, and that said “defenders of the faith” were compelled under incessant charges of fraud to admit that Christianity was a rehash of older religions. It has also been demonstrated that the world into which Christianity was born was filled with assorted gods and goddesses, as opposed to a monotheistic vacuum. In fact, in their fabulous exploits and wondrous powers many of these gods and goddesses are virtually the same as the Christ character, as attested to by the Christian apologists themselves. In further inspecting this issue we discover that “Jesus Christ” is in fact a compilation of these various gods, who were worshipped and whose dramas were regularly played out by ancient people long before the Christian era….
Horus of Egypt
“Egypt, the primeval seat of learning, was the high seat of Sun adoration. The Sphinx, with the face to the east, represents Harmmachus, young Horus, or the rising Sun. The orb is Osiris, the ruling god of day. In its descent it is the dying deity, going below to the land of Shades; but only to be resurrected as the victorious Horus, piercing the head of the dragon of darkness.” –James Bonwick, Irish Druids & Old Irish Religions
The Egyptian sun god Horus (or one of the gods to whom he has been assilimated, such as Osiris or Ra) predated the Christ character by thousands of years and shares the following in common with Jesus:
• Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three “wise men.”
• His earthly father was named “Seb” (“Joseph”). Seb is also known as “Geb”: “As Horus the Elder he…was believed to be the son of Geb and Nut.” –Lewis Spence, Ancient Egyptian Myths and Legends, 84.
• He was of royal descent.
• At age 12, he was a child teacher in the Temple, and at 30, he was baptized, having disappeared for 18 years.
• Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus or Iarutana (Jordan) by “Anup the Baptizer” (“John the Baptist”), who was decapitated.
• He had 12 followers and/or fellow gods, two of whom were his “witnesses” and were named “Anup” and “Aan” (the two “Johns”).
• He performed miracles, exorcised demons and raised El-Azarus (“El-Osiris”), from the dead.
• The Egyptian god walked on water.
• His personal epithet was “Iusa,” the “ever-becoming son” of “Ptah,” the “Father.” He was thus called “Holy Child.”
• Horus was transfigured on the Mount.
• The Egyptian god/Osiris was killed, buried for three days in a tomb, and resurrected.
• Horus, Osiris and/or Ra were called the “Way, the Truth, the Light,” “Messiah,” “God’s Anointed Son,” the “Son of Man,” the “Good Shepherd,” the “Lamb of God,” the “Word made flesh,” the “Word of Truth,” etc.
• The Egyptian god was “the Fisher” and was associated with the Fish (“Ichthys”), Lamb and Lion.
• He came to fulfill the Law.
• The Egyptian god/Osiris was called “the KRST,” or “Anointed One.”
• Like Jesus, “Horus was supposed to reign one thousand years.”
Furthermore, inscribed about 3,500 years ago on the walls of the Temple at Luxor were images of the Annunciation, Immaculate Conception, Birth and Adoration of the pharaoh Amenhotep (Horus), with Thoth announcing to the queen that she will conceive; with the god Amun impregnating the queen; and with the infant being attended by ”kings” bearing gifts. In addition, in the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being held by the virgin mother Isis–the original “Madonna and Child.”
Source: Is it Spiritual Nonsense? Divine Love Spirituality – blog
“Was Jesus A Real Person?”
Nope. There is zero historical evidence for Jesus, only one contemporary historian wrote about him. But there is conclusive evidence that Jesus was invented from various pagan mystery cults, the beliefs of the Israelites and mangled up with a Roman propaganda story about Titus Flavius. This is confirmed by the Flavius Roman emperors via their correspondence. The Jesus story is identical to how Titus Flavius entered the so called Holy Land as Rome’s messiah saviour, destroyed the rebelling demons, Israelites, destroyed Jerusalem leaving not one stone left standing upon another. The story is depicted in the exact same sequence of events.
Most people are also unaware that the Flavius Roman emperors started a cult that deified them as living gods, rather than becoming a god upon their death, it had it’s own priesthood and following. The Jewish Josephus Flavius was their court historian, he even changed his name to Favius showing how much he supported them, he was basically adopted into the Flavius family. Later on his daughter was married and became the mother of Rome as the next emperors wife. Josephus is credited as the only historian who wrote about Jesus.
judeo-christo-FREAKS of ameriiiSCUM seem to be under the illusion that any self muttered Christian Identity-alist Redneck or WASP Zionist Yankee MIND SLAVES are CAPABLE of individual thought!
These are the feudal slaves of the powerful WHOEVER that happens to be in Power at the time.
And, by definition, their definition, they are there to be and be beaten black and blue in all matters.
It’s obvious that organised religion is a means of the state to control the population, to all but the indoctrinated, because they ignore the evidence and history taking their ‘story’ out of it’s historical context.
They just don’t get there is no truth to be gained by role playing an ostrich, sticking your head in the sand and hoping the evidence will go away. Their religion is not based on faith, it’s based on denial of the evidence.
The drawers towards God control people by scattering them AS THE STATE.
But then I’m sure a post Jew would know that 😡
Scatter scatter scatter little post Jew. They’re just going to hell anyway 😈
Meinad “The drawers towards God control people by scattering them AS THE STATE.”
What you mean via the ensuing blood bath as one version massacres the other, that some flee for their lives to spread their codswallop all over the place turning it into the sh*t hole they fled from?
DamnEI
What’s that you’re new porn star name?
It’s past 6 pm UK time Pix. Hasn’t your police car to the orphanage with your armed social workers arrived yet?