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Jesus says he didn’t have anything to do with A Course In Miracles – it was from the mind spirits.
Friday, 9 October 2015
Is it Spiritual Nonsense? Divine Love Spirituality – blog
Jesus says he didn’t have anything to do with A Course In Miracles – it was from the mind spirits.
Jesus, I was reading on a Divine Love forum discussions about A Course In Miracles that is said to be channeled material from you. Did you have any involvement in it – is the material from you?
No James, it’s not from me, I had nothing to do with it, it’s from the mind spirits. And if people can’t discern that when comparing it to what I did say in the Padgett Messages, then there’s nothing you can do about it.
I remember reading bits of ACIM years ago, and went to some meetings about it in Los Angeles, but I wasn’t impressed by anything that was said. And especially not compared to the Padgett Messages.
It would only impress you if you weren’t sincerely looking for the truth of your soul. If you still want to further advance your mind away from your soul, then it might impress you, as indeed it does many people, but it will only serve to lead you further into your wrongness.
And unless people want to look to the truth of their feelings, so do their Feeling-Healing or Soul-Healing with the Divine Love, as we’ve talked about James, then nothing they will do will lead them closer to their soul, it will only advance their minds control over them. Not even just longing for and receiving the Divine Love will help them heal their wrongness if they are not also looking to live true to their feelings. That too will only advance their mental understandings of things. It will affect the love condition of their soul to some degree, however the degree will still be limited by their need to heal all their wrongness by looking to their feelings for their truth.
Thank you Jesus.
Always a pleasure James. It’s all quite straightforward when you understand the importance of your feelings and that it is through them, and only them, that the truth of your soul will be revealed. And if you don’t want the truth of your soul, if you don’t want to heal yourself of your rebelliousness through your feelings, then you can read all the so-called spiritual, religious and self-help books, A Course In Miracles included; you pray for the Divine Love; you do whatever it is you believe you need to do, but none of it will advance your soul to Paradise. And all of it will only delay such progress as you add further to your minds control over the truth that your feelings would otherwise reveal to you.
I’ll speak to you soon James – Jesus.
These are my brief comments from a brief visit to the ACIM website.
“The purpose of the workbook is to train your mind in a systematic way to a different perception of everyone and everything in the world. The exercises are planned to help you generalize the lessons, so that you will understand that each of them is equally applicable to everyone and everything you see.
“The overall aim of the exercises is to increase your ability to extend the ideas you will be practicing to include everything. This will require no effort on your part. The exercises themselves meet the conditions necessary for this kind of transfer.”
This is the introduction paragraph on the website, and in the very first ten words “The purpose of the workbook is to train your mind…” should be enough to bring up the barriers, to close the door on it, to go no further; or if you do, to at least know it will contain nothing about helping you uncover the truth of your soul, life and God through your feelings, but will have everything to do with TRAINING YOUR MIND to keep you denying your feelings and their expression, and the truth of your soul. As if you need more mind training, that’s what you should be wanting to get rid of! Our whole upbringing was mind training, training us to look to our mind using it to control our feelings and our feeling expression, all of which causes us untold damage. To work your way through these exercises training your mind is only as Jesus said above, helping you to progress deeper into your untruth and move even further away from your soul than you already are.
“Some of the ideas the workbook presents you will find hard to believe, and others may seem to be quite startling. This does not matter. You are merely asked to apply the ideas as you are directed to do. You are not asked to judge them at all. You are asked only to use them. It is their use that will give them meaning to you, and will show you that they are true.
“Remember only this; you need not believe the ideas, you need not accept them, and you need not even welcome them. Some of them you may actively resist. None of this will matter, or decrease their efficacy. But do not allow yourself to make exceptions in applying the ideas the workbook contains, and whatever your reactions to the ideas may be, use them. Nothing more than that is required,”
The course says, it doesn’t matter what you feel about the ideas presented in the book. You don’t matter, only it does. You as the young child didn’t matter, only your parents mattered. They knew what was best for you, just as this book does; don’t question your parents, just absorb what they say, do as you are told and don’t answer back; just absorb what the book says, don’t question it and you will receive all it’s benefits, just as by doing what your parents said will make you succeed in the world. Can you see how insidious the mind control is, creeping in making your mind become someone else telling you what to do, saying and pretending the Father says…, Jesus says…, as the spirits writing the book say…, as your parents said.
“…you need not believe the ideas, you need not accept them, and you need not even welcome them…” You don’t need to do anything, just be an automaton, have no feelings about any of it, be a blank mind, do as you are told and it will work for you.
“You do not walk alone. God’s angels hover near and all about. His Love surrounds you, and of this be sure; that I will never leave you comfortless.”
Angles don’t ‘hover’. Is this supposedly talking about God? If so, Jesus would never say something like that, he only speaks what is true, it gives a corny image of what an angel might be like, doing them an injustice. And sure, “His Love surrounds you”, which doesn’t do anything for us in our suffering pain-filled evilness; and Jesus would tell us we can long to Him for it.
I randomly picked a few lessons to see what they are like:
Lesson 231
Father, I will but to remember You.What can I seek for, Father, but Your Love? Perhaps I think I seek for something else; a something I have called by many names. Yet is Your Love the only thing I seek, or ever sought. For there is nothing else that I could ever really want to find. Let me remember You. What else could I desire but the truth about myself?
This sounds all very appealing, which is the problem with things like this, the spirits have crafted it with their minds using bits and pieces they have heard or read or come up with. So many people think this is saying the same as what Jesus says in the Padgett Messages, so it must be Jesus in both and he must be saying the same thing. But even though similar things as this are said by Jesus in the Padgett Messages, they are said differently giving you a completely different feel, especially when taken in context of the whole and considering all the information presented in both pieces of work.
And anyway, what I don’t like about it is that it doesn’t really do anything for you, it won’t help you heal your soul of your wrongness, so it is all just more mind-food, adding to your minds control over you.
Lesson 233
I give my life to God to guide today.
Father, I give You all my thoughts today. I would have none of mine. In place of them, give me Your Own. I give You all my acts as well, that I may do Your Will instead of seeking goals which cannot be obtained, and wasting time in vain imaginings. Today I come to You. I will step back and merely follow You. Be You the Guide, and I the follower who questions not the wisdom of the Infinite, nor Love whose tenderness I cannot comprehend, but which is yet Your perfect gift to me.
This notion of wholly giving over to God because your thoughts and feelings aren’t good enough, again is so misleading. It’s simply more of the same our parents said to us: give over your will to us, don’t you think and feel for yourself, let us take over, we know what is best for you, you can’t possibly know, you’re all wrong, confused, all mixed up, but we aren’t, we’re your gods and we know what is right; so follow us, don’t follow your own feelings, they are wrong, we are right, we know the way. It’s not how we’re to relate to God, God is not like how our parents were. God doesn’t parent us like our parents did. We fail to see this is a False God, it’s looking still to our parents as being God. If you do your healing by looking to your feelings for their truth, then you’ll be fully empowering yourself using your own will; and by doing so, will at the same time be fully honouring and living God’s will. And you’ll be looking to heal all your parents control out of you, looking to heal all your untruth and mind control.
Lesson 234
Father, today I am Your Son again.
Today we will anticipate the time when dreams of sin and guilt are gone, and we have reached the holy peace we never left. Merely a tiny instant has elapsed between eternity and timelessness. So brief the interval there was no lapse in continuity, nor break in thoughts which are forever unified as one. Nothing has ever happened to disturb the peace of God the Father and the Son. This we accept as wholly true today.
We thank You, Father, that we cannot lose the memory of You and of Your Love. We recognize our safety, and give thanks for all the gifts You have bestowed on us, for all the loving help we have received, for Your eternal patience, and the Word which You have given us that we are saved.
Look to the future when all your sin and guilt is gone. Don’t whatever you do get angry with God for putting you in the wrongness, for making you be evil, for incarnating you into the Rebellion and Default. And let us all pretend that all our sins and errors have somehow magically – a miracle! – been swept away, nothing about how to get stuck into your healing doing the hard work of uncovering the truth of your Childhood Repression. No, that’s all too hard, it’s so much easier to just read a paragraph lesson a day, to not think too much about it, letting it sink in and you’ll be okay. It’s so ‘American’. Just do the ten easy steps to enlightenment, and whatever you do, don’t do the seemingly endless years of long hard grind doing your Feeling-Healing or your Soul-Healing with the Divine Love.
Lesson 225
God is my Father, and His Son loves Him.
Father, I must return Your Love for me, for giving and receiving are the same, and You have given all Your Love to me. I must return it, for I want it mine in full awareness, blazing in my mind and keeping it within its kindly light, inviolate, beloved, with fear behind and only peace ahead. How still the way Your loving Son is led along to You!
Love has nothing to do with your mind – as in, blaze in it. Yet the thing about stuff like this from the mind spirits is it is all heavily focused on the mind, because they are all living trying to progress their minds, believing the mind is the way to God. And they don’t understand about the significance of feelings, particularly when in their mind mansion worlds they can so easily use their mind to keep their feelings under control, to keep all the bad ones buried, far more easily then we can in flesh. And it doesn’t even make any sense this lesson, not to me anyway. It just sounds like someones mind has made all this stuff up; and why not, that’s what we do making up beliefs we believe are doing us good, making up religions and spiritual systems we wrongly think will ascend our soul to Paradise.
Lesson 241
This holy instant is salvation come.
What joy there is today! It is a time of special celebration. For today holds out the instant to the darkened world where its release is set. The day has come when sorrows pass away and pain is gone. The glory of salvation dawns today upon a world set free. This is the time of hope for countless millions. They will be united now, as you forgive them all. For I will be forgiven by you today.
We have forgiven one another now, and so we come at last to You again. Father, Your Son, who never left, returns to Heaven and his home. How glad are we to have our sanity restored to us, and to remember that we all are one.
Yes, yes, the whole forgiveness thing is so tedious. How can you forgive someone when you’re full of repressed anger that you don’t even know about? When you’re still furious about how your parents treated you, filled with vile rage and putridness that is waiting for you to express and finally bring to light. It’s all just more feeling-denial, use your mind to subdue your bad feelings so much so that you believe you no longer have them. Use your mind to forgive and you are set free, you are saving yourself, salvation is at hand… yeah, yeah, we’ve heard it all before, the Bible’s full of it, and has it helped humanity before – so will it help humanity now? No, just more of the same old same old, just presented in a different way. And it can’t be any other way because it’s all coming from the spirits in the mind mansion worlds, the spirits who refuse to look to their feelings for their truth, who still persist in living untrue to themselves, making up all this rubbish about the Father and the Son, not actually uncovering the truth of their soul and advancing through the Feeling Healing mind worlds into becoming a Celestial spirit having healed themselves of all their wrongness.
Lesson 306
The gift of Christ is all I seek today.
What but Christ’s vision would I use today, when it can offer me a day in which I see a world so like to Heaven that an ancient memory returns to me? Today I can forget the world I made. Today I can go past all fear, and be restored to love and holiness and peace. Today I am redeemed, and born anew into a world of mercy and of care; of loving kindness and the peace of God.
And so, our Father, we return to You, remembering we never went away; remembering Your holy gifts to us. In gratitude and thankfulness we come, with empty hands and open hearts and minds, asking but what You give. We cannot make an offering sufficient for Your Son. But in Your Love the gift of Christ is his.
It always sounds so easy, “today I can forget the world I made”, “today I can go past all fear”, but you can’t, how do you go past all fear – by using your mind? It never tells you how to achieve such things because they are meaningless things only giving false hope. And those people who reckon it has worked for them have only succeeded in adding yet more layers to their feeling-denial – so some success! They won’t feel too successful when it all comes rushing back, flooding them with all their repressed bad feelings.
Lesson 350
Miracles mirror God’s eternal Love.
To offer them is to remember Him,
And through His memory to save the world.
What we forgive becomes a part of us, as we perceive ourselves. The Son of God incorporates all things within himself as You created him. Your memory depends on his forgiveness. What he is, is unaffected by his thoughts. But what he looks upon is their direct result. Therefore, my Father, I would turn to You. Only Your memory will set me free. And only my forgiveness teaches me to let Your memory return to me, and give it to the world in thankfulness.
And as we gather miracles from Him, we will indeed be grateful. For as we remember Him, His Son will be restored to us in the reality of Love.
“Only Your memory will set me free”, I have no idea what this means, is it that if we can somehow remember God (another mind thing to do), we’ll be healed? Or does it mean that somehow God’s memory will set us free – whatever that might mean? And again, you’ve got to forgive so the memory of God will come back so you’ll be free. But why do we have to forgive when God has made us be evil, we didn’t do it on purpose, we had no choice in it. If anything God should be saying sorry to us for putting us through all our suffering and making us feel so miserable. Again it’s just the parents blaming the children for being wrong and not blaming themselves. So many children when they grow up and become parents themselves say they come to realise how horrible they were as children, that they had no idea how much pain they caused their parents, that now they are parents they see that themselves as children were bad and should seek their parents forgiveness. So once again it’s projecting ones parents onto God, it’s not God our real Heavenly Mother and Father – it’s god the parents who are at fault. Our parents made us suffer, they should be coming to us and apologising, not the other way around.
And Jesus would never give us a course, life can’t be lived like a course. Feelings can’t be put into a course. Life is dynamic and our feelings are always changing, we are not meant to live confined to the rigid never changing paradigm of our minds. We’ve all been made to lock our minds in place, and within that prison structure, introducing yet another structure such as the ACIM is only going to make things worse. You can’t make up a course that says this is how you are live life through your feelings, looking to them to uncover their truth. That’s the beauty of it, and the beauty of Divine Love Spirituality, it can’t be reduced into a course, everyone has to work out how to express their feelings looking to them for their truth, themselves. Of course people can teach and help understand what it’s all about, and even do certain aspects of teaching feeling-expression, but in the end it all comes back to our doing it ourselves for ourselves, all because we want to be true, and truly living expressing our soul to God.
Having written this post it’s now become very clear to me that all what people and mind spirits attribute to God is really only their parents. Our parents are the gods, and at the back of them, really it’s the orchestrators of the Rebellion and Default who are pretending to be the Mother and Father, Jesus and Mary Magdalene. It’s the Lucifers, Satans, Caligastias and Dalgastias, they are Evil Ones who have stepped in in place of our Heavenly Mother and Father, the Eternal Son and Infinite Daughter.
So all the Gods and the Father and Jesus that religion and A Course In Miracles are aspiring to be at-one with, are really just peoples parents and these higher unseen rebellious spirits. The only way we can truly be at-one with God our Divine and Heavenly Mother and Father is by doing our healing, by looking to our feelings and their truth to liberate us from the control of our minds.
So in reading A Course In Miracles, were you to replace the words Father and Son with your parents, then you’d get closer to the truth of where it’s really coming from.
And I wonder if the mind spirits who contrived such a course have any idea that they are wrongly seeing God, that they are projecting all they attribute to their parents, and mostly to fantasy parents at that, to the ‘Father’. I don’t know, but I suppose they don’t, because if they did, surely they’d understand they were only making things worse for their own soul development. The Evil Ones would know, they are purposefully rebelling, but I’d reckon they’d keep the mind spirits in the dark.
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If you really think Jesus Christ the Son of God talks to you, then you really need to be institutionalized.
We do not have a soul. When we die we are dead period.
Any channeled message is from Satan.
It might help if you said why you think these things. Has it not occurred to you that Jesus might still be very active with humanity in various unseen ways. And that he might be still helping to reveal truths that humanity can use. Does it make any sense that he’d come all those years ago, do his thing, and leave it to us, especially when he more than anyone understands how we screw up everything.
And how do you know that we don’t have a soul? And what sort of statement is that anyway – nonsense if you ask me. If you can’t feel that there is more to yourself than your physical body and physical existence, then you are very shut off to your inner feelings, and would do well to actually listen to what Jesus is saying about how to get more in touch with your feelings and the truth of yourself through them.
And to just state that any channeled message is from Satan is ridiculous. So that means Satan is racing all over the world giving messages to everyone who is channeling and speaking with spirits. That he has to make up and present and remember all he’s said to everyone, where they are up to with him, and what their next message should be, without getting confused; or I guess with his band of helpers working such things out for him as he goes around delivering the messages. Surely he’d get his helpers to pretend they are him. So what do you mean, and why just state something you’ve picked up from the Bible or somewhere else when you don’t know what you’re talking about from your own experiences. Do you personally know every channeled message is from Satan, and if so, how to you know that? So where’s your truth, you’re speaking off the top of your head and it’s all meaningless. Do you think people will seriously gain anything from such comments? Or are you just wanting to vent your yuk all over everyone on a forum like this because you don’t have to take responsibility for what you say. You can hide behind your avatar pretending you’re the great know-it-all, when what you’ve written is nothing from your own experiences.
Don’t you want to know the truth and grow and ascend your soul to Paradise so you can be at-one with your Divine and Heavenly Mother and Father? Do you want to remain stuffing around in your few beliefs about things that are nonsensical, believing you are doing some good for yourself and others?
Come on man, get real, why don’t you actually read what Jesus is saying, you might even surprise yourself what you discover about yourself should you actually do as he says and look to your feelings for their truth.
Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised). Hebrews 10:23.
The religion of Christ is not a religion of mere emotion. You cannot depend upon your feelings for an evidence of acceptance with God, for feelings are variable. You must plant your feet on the promises of God’s Word … and learn to live by faith.
As soon as one begins to contemplate his feelings he is on dangerous ground. If he feels happy and joyous, then he is very confident and has very pleasing emotions. The change will come. There are circumstances that occur which bring depression and sad feelings; then the mind will naturally begin to doubt whether the Lord is with him or not.
Now, the feelings must not be made the test of the spiritual state, be they good or be they discouraging. The word of God is to be our evidence of our true standing before Him. Many are bewildered on this point….
If you confess your sins, believe they are pardoned, because the promise is positive. “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness” (1 John 1:9). Why, then, dishonor God by doubting His pardoning love? Having confessed your sins, believe that the word of God will not fail, but that He is faithful that hath promised. It is just as much your duty to believe that God will fulfill His word and forgive your sins as it is your duty to confess your sins. Your faith must be exercised in God as one who will do just as He has said He would do—pardon all your transgressions….
Oh, how very many go mourning, sinning and repenting, but always under a cloud of condemnation! They do not believe the word of the Lord. They do not believe that He will do just as He said He would do…. You hurt the heart of Christ by doubting, when He has given us such evidences of His love in giving His own life to save us that we should not perish but have everlasting life.
We must trust; we must educate and train our souls to believe the word of God implicitly.
Impressions and feelings are no sure evidence that a person is being led by the Lord. Satan will, if he is unsuspected, give feelings and impressions. These are not correct and safe guides. All should acquaint themselves thoroughly with the evidences of our faith, and the great study should be how they can adorn their profession, and bear fruit to the glory of God. RH AUG.03,1886
The children of God may rejoice in all things and at all times. When troubles and difficulties come, believing in the providence of God, you may rejoice. You need not wait for a happy flight of feeling, but by faith you may lay hold of the promises and lift up a hymn of thanksgiving to God. . . RH FEB.11,1890 (HP 123)