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This Evangelists 50-Year Old Prophecy Describes Todays Events in Incredible Detail That Will Blow Your Mind (Must See Video)

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We are on the edge of tremendous events, folks. Are you ready?

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Incredibly Powerful 1961 Prophecy Describes What is Happening Today!

More than 50 years ago, God showed evangelist Tommy Hicks what the mighty army of the last days would look like. Hicks was best known for his work in South America, and you can see some old photos of him ministering during the Argentinian revival of 1954 here. According to Hicks, on the morning of July 25th, 1961 he was shown the same vision “three times, exactly in detail”, and what he saw changed the course of his life forever. In this vision God revealed to Hicks that the Spirit of God would be poured out on “the nobodies” all over the world in the last days, and that this incredible army would shake the world for God like we have never seen before.

I did not know about this vision until it was recently sent to me by one of my readers. Without knowing it, for years I have been proclaiming the exact same things that Hicks was shown. If you are familiar with my work, you already know that I can’t stop talking about the Remnant that will rise in the last days that will keep God’s commandments and walk in holiness, that will bring in the greatest harvest of souls the world has ever seen, and that will move in the power of the Holy Spirit like we haven’t seen since the Book of Acts.

Even though I was not aware of this prophecy from 1961 until just recently, it agrees with everything that I have been preaching. The following are 15 key points that I pulled out of his vision…

1. There will be an unprecedented move of God in the last days.

2. God is going to use “the nobodies” during this great wave of the Spirit that is coming.

3. There will be a great anointing on those that are ready to receive it.

4. Some will refuse the anointing of God and the call of God.

5. This move of God will happen in “Africa, England, Russia, China, America” and “all over the world”.

6. There will be great signs, wonders, healings and miracles.

7. Hicks was told by Jesus that this is the “mighty army” that will arise in “the last days”.

8. Spiritual “translation” will become common for those in this army.

9. There will be great famine in the last days. According to the UN, this is something that is happening right now.

10. There will be a tremendous harvest of souls as multitudes come to know Jesus.

11. “God is going to give to the world a demonstration in this last hour as the world has never known.”

12. The true body of Christ will finally function as it was originally intended.

13. A time of “great persecution” will strike as this mighty army is winning souls all over the world.

14. Hicks saw “great vials of God’s wrath being poured out upon the face of the earth” just after the rapture takes place. This lines up precisely with what I wrote in The Rapture Verdict about the timing of the rapture. In my book I detail how the rapture comes immediately after the seven year Tribulation period has ended, and just before the great vials of God’s wrath described in the Book of Revelation are poured out.


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  • Unfortunately NONE of this prophesy is backed up by the actual WORD OF GOD. If anything it describes the coming antichrist church that will deceive many of the end time believers. There will not be an end time revival – there will be a great falling away (apostasy). Try reading the Book.

    • tried reading the book dozens of times, only to find it is the word of MEN – no god had anything to do with it

    • Rex Ivy and Andy in a little circle jerk yet neither had the gumption to stand up and defend their arguments when they got called out.

      How about either of you stumping up 60 odd books by 40 odd authors, without contradiction, on how everything came to be.

      Heck if you can do the same for any one school of science i’d be mightily impressed.

  • 123’s of true Christianity v popular & damnable heresies
    (simply because you “confess” it does not mean you actually are, the devil has deceived many of his own children to believe they are Christians 2Tim 3:5)

    “WHO” it was (what person) that came “IN THE FLESH”, IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR IN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE “ANT-CHRIST”! Even Islam claims Jesus was the Jewish messiah/Christ who was to come in the flesh) they all deny “WHO” it was (what person) that came (to be the Christ) in the flesh!?!…….To deny the father is to deny the son because they are one and the same person that came in the flesh!

    JOHN 14: 8-20 where Christ specifically identifies himself (his person as the person of both the father and the HS; the only distinction is in “location” and “method of manifestation” …….Note Isaiah 9:6. For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: …: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, … the everlasting Father ….The son, father/Holy Spirit are all the same person, NOT like two different persons working together even as “one flesh” ….The “oneness” between Christ and the father is not comparable to a man & his wife, for only a fool would say “When you have seen me you have seen my wife, how sayest thou then, Shew us your wife?” Notice they asked to see THE FATHER and the response was Jn 14:9 ..“HAVE I BEEN SO LONG time with you, and yet hast THOU NOT KNOW ME, Philip…..Now image some fool trying to claim that statement if you asked to see his wife!?!!? You want to see the FATHER but have I been with you but you don’t know me!?!?!

    Jn 14 continued….…………..17. Even THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH; (Jn 14:6 I AM the way, THE TRUTH,) whom the world cannot receive, .. for HE DEWLLETH WITH YOU, (present tense/standing next to them in the flesh) and SHALL BE IN YOU… (future tense “In them”) 18. I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU (future tense “In them”) Note: The spirit of Christ is the sprit of God and the holy spirit that is why Christ said “I will come to you” (to comfort them, because Christ is the comforter). The spirit was standing next to them in flesh… ….latter it would come to them to be inside of them (inside of their flesh as the spirit we are given)…..that is why. he would send the spirit…… However, Jesus himself here makes the point that the same person who was the HOLY SPIRIT that would come was standing next to them but lets them know “I will come to you again to be Inside of you”

    The whole point to Gal 3:20.a mediator is NOT A MEDIATOR OF ONE, (HEIS) but GOD IS ONE. (HEIS) again, point blank, identifies the number of persons of God! The “but” points out the contrast between multiple persons in a mediation party v the “one” of God. God is not like a mediation party with multiple different persons. …..”the express image of his person” ( the person of God; singular not plural).Any attempt to lay claim otherwise is willful ignorance and delusional nonsense

    NOTE: don’t be that one in prov 26:12 over my use of the word “fool” here prov 18:13 ( ) “But but, the gospel of John…the Gospel of John …look look…” which is quite ironic since the gospel of John does not leave ANY room for multiple different persons of Jesus and father. However the gospel of John does leave a few verses that facilitate God’s promise in 2 Thess 2:11/ Isaiah 66:4 (take note of “HAND” in verse 2,14..You just can’t make this stuff up…God is surely laughing at these fools; Ps 2:1&4)

    ……Mark 12:28…Which is the first commandment of all? 29. …Hear, O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD: 30. And ………..this is the first commandment….. 31. And the second is…..

    TRINITARIANS CONFESS JESUS /THEY ARE NOT POLYTHEIST BUT ARE MONOTHEIST LIKE A LIAR & THIEF WHO “CONFESS” THEY DO NOT LIE OR STEAL The simple fact is that just because you confess or deny that you are in an adulterous relationship and denounce all forms of adultery has nothing to do with whether or not it is in fact adulterous! .. …A rose by any other name is still just a rose AND calling it a water lily does not change the definition of what a water Lilly or a rose is either!…No, Trinitarians confess & preach literally …”ANOTHER JESUS” 2 Cor 11:4

    - Like a thief in your house caught stealing your things insisting he was not there stealing “I CONFESS I am NOT stealing”. You just do not “properly understand” what he is doing/saying. Further, since you never had a “proper understanding” of what he is doing/saying you have no business accusing him since you do not even know what you are talking about in the first place. It is with and in your own ignorance that you base your “false accusations” & “ad homonym attacks” against him…… Ridiculous of course it is ……2Thess 2:11; Titus 1:16; 2Tim 3:5;

    - A Favorite tool for pathological liars is to use incongruent definitions or create oxymorons out of synonyms such as “a person” and “a being” so as to claim that your god is THREE DIFFERENT PERSONS but ONLY ONE BEING: Which is (1) no different then trying to claim that “THREE DIFFERENT CARS” is “THE ONE VEHICLE” (2) blatant demonstration of the dishonesty & sorcery these children of hell will employ with “a strait face” (which is in part what it means to be a pathological liar)
    ……but, ah i remember how this game is played… “God is three in one” (or 1in 3 or 3in one et al) should have given you a hint, harking back to Satan in The garden…God said you will die…Satan comes along and states no you will be more WISE……today .God said He is one; but Satan’s children come along and say no three is more WISE and humble in the face of God’s grandeur only “a mystery” that can be understood “in faith”. God uses head and right arm to explain the distinctions between father and son.. However, the Trinitarian heretics say to the effect: “NO, that is just a figure of speech, or that is not what God really means. What God is really saying is that God is three different persons”. Fools, hypocrites and blind guides, God said he was One and by your traditions and vain imaginations have taken the words of God and made them of no effect, refashioning God into your image!

    You can download the complete FREE book from

    #2 SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast
    till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in the war of AD70 are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8/ you cant love an appearing you deny& the context is the 2nd coming not the first)… Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And
    they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.
    2Thess 2: 11. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12. That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.



    #3 There is a sharp contrast between THREE groups :

    (1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” who were NEVER written in the book of life ………..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD

    (2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY and ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) are written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3… ……Rev 21:27; (Only saints are Called and elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHRUCH and ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life ….….Heb 12:23 to the general assembly and CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH ………are WRITTEN in heaven,

    (3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who are now physically dead. They died “faithful” these are the FEW that were chosen faithful…….Rev 3:5. ……; and I
    will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. These are the FEW that are CHOSEN and now that they have died and are saved then “once saved THEY CAN NEVER BE LOST”

    Predestination….its true..its all true…download here

  • It is a biblical fact according to the bibles own figures that last days are the last 70 years of the number of years between BC596…to AD70 = 666 yrs the period of time outlined once as a MAN and once as a BEAST in Daniel Ch 2 & 7 respectively .as the time the 7 fold (7 seals/trumps vials) curse of the law of Moses was poured out on the physical seed of Israel purified until only a spiritual seed was left…

    This is also how we know slam dunk that Muhammad was a false teacher…just like most “bible teaching Christians”…….THE SECOND COMING Thou Fool! “I come quickly” so “Hold fast till i come”… NOT …“in another 2000 yrs I might be coming soon any time now, so hold fast”!?! …those that deny the second coming of Christ in that first generation are practicing a damnable heresy in denying the lord that bought them ( 2Peter 2:1-2 ;2Tim 4:8)…….Mat 7:23..”I NEVER KNEW YOU” …..Mat 10:33. But whosoever shall deny me before men……..sound familiar?…. ……. If I said I am coming to your house in this generation when these things happen but no one knows the day or hour what fool would think I might be coming in 2000 years latter!?!? ..2 Tim 4: 4. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be TURNED UNTO FABLES.

    Gal 1: 8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    The book of Revelation offers us an interesting Theological dilemma. It states Rev 22:16. I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. Revelation also states it is “the true sayings” of Jesus and that it is “the testimony of Christ”. If this is not “the gospel of Jesus Christ” then what is it and should we consider it accursed testimony of an angel? If it is not to be considered accursed, then it cannot be some other gospel message then what was already given previously. However, this is the conundrum, for if this is the gospel message, then why do so few understand it? There is a possibility which few consider but is the overall thesis of this apology. The reason people don’t understand revelation is because they never understood what the gospel message was in the first place! In that case, where does that put those who claim it is not essential for salvation? Do you not find it quite curious that the most “Personally” given NT book By Jesus himself, is the least understood and given the least importance for Salvation in Christendom?….There are numerous preachers and bible exegetes but as Paul said “… I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge” . Most who profess the name of Christ are feeding on doctrines of devils and the ignorant.. There are, without question, many “qualified” teachers and scholars with many years of “dedication” and “solid education”. However, teachers, no matter how well lettered or numbered in degrees; if obtained from others; who are just as equally ignorant in such matters, are just “ blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.”………………

    Revelation the First Gospel of the Kingdom
    978-1-4907-0590-3 (ISBN)

    Those looking for a physical return of Christ and your physical body to “leave the dirt” resurrected (1Cor 15:36-37) you are carnal mined & or living in prov 26:12

    DAY OF THE LORD”/ YEAR OF THE LORD – does NOT last for 24 hours!?!..Also means the day of resurrection & judgment do not last for one hour or one day either! They only begin (NOT END) in a certain hour & on a certain 24 hour day ….”SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS to arise”…..NOT..”come & get (your new resurrected body) it while it is still hot, only 24 hours of solar power left”!?!

    The second coming took place already and Christ promised that only HIS PEOPLE would see him ….John 14:19. Yet a little while, and THE WORLD SEETH ME NO MORE;….. [2 Cor 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ AFTER THE FLESH, yet NOW HENCEFORTH KNOW WE HIM NO MORE….(here the Context of John 14 is his second coming)…..continued…..but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20. AT THAT DAY .. 21. He that hath my commandments, and KEEPETH THEM, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM……(again taking note “as he is” or 1Jn 3:2)

    22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, HOW IS IT THAT THOU WILT MANIFEST THYSELF UNTO US AND NOT UNTO THE WORLD? 23. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, HE WILL KEEP MY WORDS: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.( Rev 3:20) 24. He that loveth me not.. (1Cor 16:22)…. KEEPETH NOT MY SAYINGS: ( REV 9:16-20)

    REVELATION 1:7. Behold, HE COMETH WITH CLOUDS; and EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM, …. There is a parallel here with ………….Exodus 24:10. And THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL : and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness. 11. And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also THEY SAW GOD, and did eat and drink………..But Christ said….. John 1:18. NO MAN HATH SEEN GOD AT ANY TIME; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. A person can see with their understanding and or see with their eyes…. It can see “seen” for certain that everything that Christ described was seen by the folks of that day in His coming but do they perceive that was him? …So what Christ said is true every eye saw him but the world does not see him….. With the eye they and folks still today can see everything Christ described to have taken place, but they do not “keep” ( believe and understand) his words as such they do not see him nor shall they ever.

    The saints who have physical died faithful in the flesh (every man in his own order) are changed in the blink of an eye & caught up to sit on that Great white throne ( this congregation of the saints is the body of Christ that folks will answer to at the judgment and these saints will judge all men who cannot see Christ along with the rest of the world……Folks think they are waiting to see Jesus but they will NEVER see Jesus himself they will only see the body of Christ condemn them the saints judge the world (Rev 3:21; 1 Cor 6:2 et al) the saints are the body of Christ…that is the only part of Christ they shall see….only the saints shall see God face to face…..most peoples idea of the second coming & day of the Lord and the judgment is completely wrong


    978-1-4907-0590-3 (SC ISBN)

  • It’s self-contradicting, to say that spiritual translation should become commonplace, but there is no Rapture, at that time, but, there is some hiding place, which cannot be discovered by carnal men.

  • Sorry, you lost me at the “rapture”. That word is not even in the Bible. :twisted:

    • True the word Rapture is not in the Bible, yet neither is the word Trinity and most Believers understand and comprehend the concept of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost without much difficulty. While the Rapture does or does not take place we must keep our eyes on the prize which is Jesus. No specific event is of any real purpose with the exception of the Cross, the Blood and the Resurrection. Let God be true and every man a liar.

      • Trinity also is a false concept and no wonder it’s not in the Bible either. :lol:

        • 1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

          Three in on = Triune God

          • That short clause, the Comma Johanneum, comes from the Latin Vulgate during the 9th century and doesn’t exist in the earlier Greek manuscripts.

            You’ve been taken for a sucker, Just Me, by the King James Onlyists.

          • And even if the verse were legit, which it most certainly isn’t…

            …and even if it hadn’t been added late, which it most certainly has…

            …it doesn’t contain any Trinitarian doctrine, apart from naming the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in a single verse, and stating that they agree. Which… why wouldn’t they?

            This verse, along with Matthew 28:19, are the only two verses of Scripture which Trinitarians point to as containing all three ‘elements’ of the Trinity. And both verses are spurious.

            That does not bode well for believers in Trinitarian doctrine.

          • Why do folk gloss over such passages without so much as a passing thought? Doesn’t it occur to them that there aren’t any examples of the apostles baptizing folk according to the formula found in Matthew 28:19.

            Are folk that disinterested in the historical record that they’re unaware Eusebius, who was present at the council of Nicea when cannon was being argued, always quoted that passage as ending with Jesus saying “in my name”?

            Do they not notice that both passages (Matt 28:19 & 1John 5:7) lack any mention of the three being one? Are these folk just reading the Bible to hedge their bets?

            So many questions, so little time.

          • Cintus

            13 Then Moses said to God, “Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you.’ Now they may say to me, ‘What is His name?’ What shall I say to them?”

            14 God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.’”

            15 God, furthermore, said to Moses, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel,

            ‘The LORD, the God of your fathers,

            1) the God of Father Abraham,

            2) the God of Isaac the sacrifice,

            3) and the God of Jacob (Israel),

            has sent me to you.’ This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations.…

          • Exodus 3:15 is a list of titles, Damien, not a list of gods.

          • See Matthew 22:32 and Acts 3:13 for clarification.

          • Mayhem

            The Trinity is not a list of Gods

          • Correct, Damien because it’s a figment of your imagination that the Bible does not support.

          • I don’t know if you’re agreeing or disagreeing, Damien.

            What are you saying?

          • “The Trinity is not a list of Gods…”

            I guess I know now.

          • Mayhem

            What about the persons in the Trinity Mayhem?

            Are they a figment of the imagination?

          • What are you talking about, Damien, do try to make sense or shut up while the grown-ups are talking.

            I’ll discuss the personage of the supposed Trinity just as soon as you prove there is such a thing otherwise don’t waste my time.

          • Mayhem

            So …. all I have to do to talk with you about the persons of God

            ….is first prove God exists?

            Otherwise I, and anybody else considering responding to your posts, should just shut the hell up?

          • Damien,

            [If you can do this, you'll be the first person to do so in the history of Trinitarianism.]

            Prove from Scripture that the Holy Spirit is God.

            Now, if you seek recourse to Acts 5:3-4 (as almost all Trinitarians do), please be sure to include your biblically-required confirming witness (which no Trinitarian has ever done).

            Then you will have a sound position from which to defend your theological doctrine.

          • No, Damien, prove the Trinity exists. I know you can’t “prove” God exists, no one can, that’s the thing we accept on faith, innit?

            And it’s just you that should shut their yap, i’ll discuss Trinitarianism, till the cows come home, with anyone so long as they’ve never previously gone down in flames on the subject.

            Get busy answering Cintus’ challenge and I’ll join in when i have something to say.

          • Cintus

            God the Father is a Spirit

            God the Son is a Ghost

            So shouldn’t you be explaining to me why the Holy Spirit is not God?

          • “God the Father is a Spirit…”

            This statement can be supported by Scripture. (John 4:24)

            “God the Son is a Ghost…”

            This statement cannot be supported by Scripture. Note that the two English words ‘spirit’ and ‘ghost’ are derived in English translation from a single Hebrew word (RUCACH) or a single Greek word (PNEUMA). Also, you will find no scriptural support for the term ‘God the Son.’ [NOTE: This is not a denial of the deity of Christ. I most assuredly do affirm His deity.]

            “So shouldn’t you be explaining to me why the Holy Spirit is not God?”

            No. None of the apostles ever once referred to the Holy Spirit as God. Moreover, if the apostles were Trinitarians (they were not), then their greetings would have freely reflected as much. Every time an apostle greets his readers in writing he says: GREETINGS, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ – or some variant thereof. Never once did any of them mention the Holy Spirit in such a connection.

            The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit is not God.

            Now, it is not possible to speak of the Christian God properly without considering all three: The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. But saying so does not make us agree with Trinitarian doctrine. The Father and the Son are not coequal (as indeed no father and no son ever are) and the Holy Spirit is not God. Therefore…

          • Cintus

            How can a spirit (the father) have a Ghost?

            The 40-50 days to pentecost signals Ghost

            Only an incarnate being can have a Ghost

            Jesus’ Ghost is NOT God?

            Explain to me what Jesus Ghost is then if not God

          • “How can a spirit (the father) have a Ghost?”

            I think you mean to ask – how can a spirit have a spirit?

            John 4:24

            πνεῦμα ὁ Θεός…

            SPIRIT, The God… or SPIRIT, The God (is)…


            John 3:6

            That which is *born* of the flesh is flesh, and that which is *born* of the Spirit is spirit.

            BORN in this verse is the Nominative Neuter form of the Greek verb γεννάω (gennaó) meaning I beget, I bring forth, I give birth to…

            “The 40-50 days to pentecost signals Ghost…”

            I don’t know what that means.

            “Only an incarnate being can have a Ghost…”

            Show me from Scripture why you believe this to be true.

            “Jesus’ Ghost is NOT God?”

            No. Jesus’ Spirit is the Spirit OF God. His Spirit is not God.

            “Explain to me what Jesus Ghost is then if not God…”

            Is the spirit of Damien Damien? Or is the spirit of Damien the spirit of Damien. This is not semantics – this is highlighting the fact that Trinitarian doctrine cannot be rightly supported by Scripture.

          • Cintus

            God has three persons

            The unincarnate God

            The incarnate God

            The messenger

          • Yes, I am well-versed in what Trinitarian doctrine SAYS, Damien.

            My point is that it cannot be defended using Scripture. And if Scripture is not your source for understanding God, then what is?

          • Cintus

            “Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one”

            Is ALL anti-trinitarianism has

            Nothing in it denies the trinity but the persons of the trinity DO discourage post-Christian false understandings of it.

          • “Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one…”

            That is a fair rendering of the Hebrew verse (Deuteronomy 6:4). But I ask you – upon WHAT do you base your claim that this verse is in any way reflective of Trinitarian doctrine? Where does this verse explain that what is meant by ECHAD (one), is that the Father is God – the Son is God – and the Holy Spirit is God? Moreover, which other verses would you point to as suggesting how we should interpret Deuteronomy 6:4?

            “Nothing in it denies the trinity but the persons of the trinity DO discourage post-Christian false understandings of it.”

            Damien – the apostles were not Trinitarians. Trinitarianism came about very late and only became agreed upon doctrine, by church authorities, circa 325 AD. That is a historical fact. Another fact is that the only two times in Scripture where Trinitarian doctrine is seemingly supported by a plain reading of the text, are in two verses which have been provably ALTERED to reflect a message which was OTHER than the original message. Are we interested in what men have to say about the Word? Or are we interested in the message the original, divinely-inspired, authors of Scripture intended to communicate to us. We are commanded NEVER to alter the Word of God. Yet, one of the men who did alter the Word of God, Erasmus (the humanist), when asked why he did so (he took a scribal note in a margin and inserted it into the actual text of the Textus Receptus), answered that he felt the doctrine of the Trinity could use a little extra explaining. (That is a paraphrase of what he said.)

            Now I ask you, Damien…

            …does truth need man’s help in explaining itself?

            Is there ever a time when truth is rightly bolstered or made stronger by lies?

            Are you aware of even a single instance in this world, where lies or deception were able actually to improve truth or to make truth better understood by men?

          • Cintus

            What existed before trinitarianism?

          • What existed before Trtinitarianism is what the apostles taught:

            There is one God, and we are to know Him through His only begotten (mono – genesis) Son, our Lord and Savior.

          • NOT a problem to a trinitarian!

            His Holy Ghost and trinitarians get on like an upper room in an inn on fire! Know Him? KNOW HIM?! Don’t get trinitarians started on the stories they have heard passed down about Him!

          • Have Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses had plenty of stories handed down to them as well, Damien? What authority is there in a story? The truth is contained in facts of reality – not in stories.

            Now, if you can show, or even attempt to show, that the Holy Spirt is God, then we’ll have grounds for further considering your doctrine. But the problem remains – there is nothing in the Word of God that teaches what Trinitarian doctrine presupposes. Therefore, Trinitarian doctrine is extra-biblical. And therefore, we do not need Trinitarian doctrine. More, Trinitarian doctrine is injurious to us if it hampers us from rightly-comprehending God; from rightly-knowing Him as we are commanded to do.

          • Cintus

            God the Father – unknowable (but through His only begotten Son)

            God the Son – unknowable (but through His Holy Ghost)

            God the Holy Ghost – not real

            Good luck with that

          • “God the Father – unknowable (but through His only begotten Son)…”

            Supportable by Scripture (Matthew 11:27, Luke 10:22, John 1:18, 6:46…)

            “God the Son – unknowable (but through His Holy Ghost)…”

            Not supportable by Scripture. Scripture negates the notion because the apostles and disciples of the Son of Man came to know Him through their daily contact with Him:

            1 John 1:1

            That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life—

            Those same apostles and disciples taught and preached, and they wrote to US the Scriptures AS THEY WERE MOVED by the Holy Spirit:

            2 Peter 1:21

            men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.


            2 Timothy 3:16

            All Scripture is breathed out by God…

            We come to know Him through the written Word of God:

            2 Timothy 3:15

            from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

            The Scriptures are able to bring us to knowledge of Him, Damien – Just as He Himself was able to bring His taught ones to that same knowledge.

            “God the Holy Ghost – not real…”

            Show me from Scripture why you believe there is any such thing as God the Holy Ghost. That is a very simple request, Damien.

            (I eagerly await your efforts to do so, as you have now been asked repeatedly. But if you CANNOT show from Scripture, then you must at least reason with yourself as to what, exactly, the source of your belief in that doctrine is.)

            Good luck with that

          • Here is your Ghost

            5 When Saul saw the Philistine army, he was afraid; terror filled his heart. 6 He inquired of the Lord, but the Lord did not answer him by dreams or Urim or prophets. 7 Saul then said to his attendants, “Find me a woman who is a mediatrix, so I may go and inquire of her.”

            “There is one in Endor,” they said.

            8 So Saul disguised himself, putting on other clothes, and at night he and two men went to the woman. “Consult a spirit for me,” he said, “and bring up for me the one I name.”

            9 But the woman said to him, “Surely you know what Saul has done. He has cut off the mediatrixes and spiritists from the land. Why have you set a trap for my life to bring about my death?”

            10 Saul swore to her by the Lord, “As surely as the Lord lives, you will not be punished for this.”

            11 Then the woman asked, “Whom shall I bring up for you?”

            “Bring up (insert name here),” he said.

          • I’m a little slow today, Damien.

            Would you mind explaining to me in small words how any of that comes close to demonstrating your points? How does any of that indicate, even remotely, that the Holy Spirit is God?

          • I do wish you’d stop using the word “ghost”, Damien, and stick to the more sound translation “spirit”. I read what Cintus had to say on the matter and while he’s not wrong i feel he oversimplified the matter to a degree.

            G4141 – πνεῦμα, ατος, τόpneuma – wind, breath, spirit.

            G5326 – φάντασμα, ατος, τόphantasma – apparition, ghost, spirit, phantom.

            While spirit can indeed be derived from ghost (G5326) it doesn’t work in the reverse ie ghost cannot be derived from spirit (G4141). Ghosts are what the disciples mistakenly thought they saw when Jesus walked on water (Mark 6:49) and that was why they were terrified. They were wrong about that as became obvious when Jesus climbed into the stricken boat and told them to chill out.

            Multiple witnesses, Damien, this is what has been requested, nay demanded, of you so where are they? Will you simply ignore the commandment and continue with jejune one liners? Put up, and let the evidence be weighed, or shut up but please don’t bore me with more of the same.

            Speaking of the weight of evidence; folk might find it interesting that 1 John 5:7 only appears in 9 English translations, of the Bible, while it is either omitted, italicized, or footnoted in over 50 other renderings.


            This is not to say that any particular translation is better, or worse, than the next (they all have issues) and while i personally prefer the KJV i often quote from the NIV or NASB however i generally take the time to check the passage lines up with the consensus.

          • To add to what Mayhem wrote:

            In the world of Greek Manuscripts for study and for textual criticism, a rule of thumb is to consult the two oldest and “best” MSS whenever a discrepancy in the texts, from one MS to another, occurs. In this case, the two oldest and best have it thus:


            ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσὶν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες


            ὅτι τρεῖς εἰμί ὁ μαρτυρέω

            That is, 1 John 5:9 reads: For there are three that bear witness…

            [Note that Vaticanus and Sinaiticus are not verbatim. οἱ μαρτυροῦντες is first person plural (bear the witnesses), while ὁ μαρτυρέω is first person singular (bear the witness).]

            Also, in addition to these two MSS, there are two other major and older MSS which omit the addition.

            Only the newer MSS (after 1500 – Textus Receptus, upon which the KJV is based, and Greek Orthodox) contain the addition.

          • The addition being:

            …in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

          • That would be the Montfort manuscript, Cintus, the one that Rome had forged in order to confute the rash challenge of Erasmus’ that he would include the passage if a single Greek manuscript could be found that included it.

            Should we be at all surprised that one was “discovered” shortly after the challenge was issued?

          • Well?

            Manufactured evidence is still evidence…

            …ain’t it?

          • Sadly, for some folk, it is and it crushes my hopes for Adamkind.

          • The Boss has this thing firmly in hand.

            Just you watch.

            Everything is as it should be.

            (Not that things wouldn’t have been better if we’d all listened to Him from the beginning, but…)

      • You thought you understand the Trinity? Not so. Its man made and the Jews would never accept this to accept Jesus. I have the greatest, that’s right, greatest explanation on this tied in with the baptism. In updating this now and you never read anything like this to change the churches to get ready for Jesus, last day revival. Like a later link, you have been warned. Don’t miss this as the readers will leave their churches and flock to this.

        • The only last day revival is into the antichrist church. The TRUE church will experience a great falling away.

  • Just sharing a new site i found. Loving it so far. Refreshing actually.

  • 1YAHochanon 5:6-8
    6 This is He who lived sinless from the time of becoming an accountable adult and was immersed in water and became ‘The Blood of The Lamb,’ YAHUW the Beloved King of YAsarel. He lived guiltless not just from the immersion in water only, but was completely Word-Abiding beyond the water to also qualify as ‘The Blood of The Lamb.’ It was His RUWach who testifies to this, because His RUWach testifies to Truth.
    7 For there are three who testify of Eternal Truth;
    8 His RUWach, The Immersion in His RUWach at repentance and the turning to The Covenant Words (commandments) against the flesh- and The Word and Blood of YAHUW The Perfect Lamb. These three agree.

    No mention of “trinity” in the Original Scripture, maybe in the Jesuit translations that have had so much “added to” and “taken away” that it can hardly be called The Word.


    There are those who do not want you to know about this place.

    • I can’t wait till you get your account killed and finally stop jamming up all the comment boxes on the home pages.

      Here’s a suggestion, scumbag…

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      Try PAYING FOR IT.


  • Thank you for sharing. I was raised Catholic. I could never get it. You know the faith, but I do now. God has helped me survive being a TI for many years. My daughter’s life was destroyed from being targeted also. Why all this happened I do not know. MKULTRA, I do not know. Perhaps I will never completely no why. But, I get that I am, I get that it is still happening to me.

    The major difference now, is God is in my life, in daily prayer.

    Thank you for sharing, who knows why miracles occur, a nightmare has occurred destroying my daughter’s life, and affecting mine for many years. but, because of it it brought me to God, and his beloved son Jesus. Thank you for sharing.

    Diane Bourdeau Wendt

    • Hi Diane.

      Please forgive the intrusion, but you’ve identified yourself as a believer which makes for compelling reasons to share with you something I’ve noticed about all of your posts.

      In only a few short sentences, you wrote:

      “I was…”

      “I could…”

      “I do…”

      “…helped me…”

      “My daughter’s…”

      “I do…”

      “I do…”

      “I will…”

      “I get…”

      “I am…”

      “I get…”

      “…happening to me.”

      “…my life…”

      “…my daughter’s…”


      “…brought me…”

      This highlight is not brought to you in any attempt to stir up trouble. But it might be better if, as a believer, you came speaking as much about YOUR Savior as you do about yourself. I may be a hypocrite for saying so, but it’s still something to think about.

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