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Did Hitler Escape To Indonesia? DNA Test Refuels Controversy

Saturday, October 20, 2012 13:54
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According to LivinginIndonesiaforum, Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun did not commit suicide in the Berlin Bunker but escaped to Indonesia ‘s Sumbawa Besar Island.  They left Berlin reaching Sarajevo before getting new Passports with the help of the Vatican and a Professor Dragonvic and leaving Rome on 1st December 1945. Eva Braun deserted him and returned to her native land while Adolf Hitler, having adopted the name of Dr Poch and purporting to be a Doctor at the Hope Hospital in Sumbawa, married a Sundanese woman from Bandung only known now as Mrs S.

this Mrs S was apparently traced to her Bandung residence in 1983 by a Dr Sosro who had first encountered Dr Poch in Sumbawa in 1960 and whom he continued tro investigate. Dr Sosro was born in 1929. There appear to be no current updates on his investigations.

Dr Poch died in 1970 in a Surabaya Hospital and is buried in the graveyard of a local cemetery outside of Surabaya, Ngagel I think. Dr Sosro reports on seeing (and even holding) a pocket noteboook which Mrs S handed to him which may or may not be conclusive proof that it is the fugitive handbook of Adolf Hitler.

This is a reputed photo of  Adolf Hitler in Indonesia in his assumed identity of Dr. Pock whom his wife called “Dolf.” Here is a link to an article that asserts Adolf Hitler escape to Indonesia and converted to Islam. http://tiny.cc/rwcimw

 The official story is that Adolf Hitler committed suicide by gunshot on 30 April 1945 in his Führerbunker in Berlin. His wife Eva (née Braun), committed suicide with him by ingesting cyanide. 

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That afternoon, in accordance with Hitler’s prior instructions, their remains were carried up the stairs through the bunker’s emergency exit, doused in petrol and set alight in the Reich Chancellery garden outside the bunker. The Soviet archives record that their burnt remains were recovered and interred in successive locations until 1970 when they were again exhumed, cremated and the ashes scattered.

 

A program on the History Channel, called MysteryQuest,dispatches teams of experts around the world to try to solve “some of mankind’s strangest and most persistent mysteries.”

 
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Credit: University of Connecticut 

The premiere episode Sept. 16, 2009 – “Hitler’s Escape” – featured three UConn faculty: Nicholas Bellantoni, Linda Strausbaugh, and Dawn Pettinelli. Together they investigated what became of Adolf Hitler’s remains in the days, months, and years after the end of World War II.


Credit: University of Connecticut 
 
 Pettinelli conducted tests on the soil samples and Strausbaugh and her team conducted DNA testing on swabs of blood and skull fragments. The results of these tests showed definitively that the skull fragments did not belong to Hitler but belonged a young female according to skull morphology and DNA tests.  
 
Adolf Hitler. 
Image from the Thomas J. Dodd Papers, Thomas J. Dodd Research Center, University of Connecticut Libraries. Photo by Presse-Hoffmann-Berlin
 
Strausbaugh’s lab was tasked with extracting DNA from burn-damaged dime-sized fragments of what was believed to be Adolf Hitler’s skull. Much of the research was conducted by two of Strausbaugh’s former students, Craig O’Conner, Ph.D. ’08, and Heather Nelson, MS ’04, both now on staff at the Chief Medical Examiner’s Office in New York City. After successfully extracting DNA, the researchers determined that the skull fragments belonged to a female and were not Hitler’s. The story was featured in The History Channel series MysteryQuest.
 
Professor Linda Strausbaugh teaches a class on genetics and mitochondrial DNA. 
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Photo by Jessica Tommaselli

As the war was ending and Russian troops closed in on Berlin, Hitler and other Nazi officials confined themselves to a bunker beneath the city. It is widely believed that Hitler and his wife Eva Braun killed themselves in the bunker, in order to avoid possible capture. Accounts suggest that his remains were burned and buried at the site, and later moved by the Soviets to other sites in Germany in the decades after the war, but this is uncertain.

What became of Hitler’s remains is still an open historical question and it was thought the answer could lie in the Russian archives in Moscow, where among other artifacts, there is a piece of human skull with a bullet wound that the Russians say is that of Adolf Hitler.

The History Channel brought Bellantoni on a fact-finding mission from Germany to Moscow in search of evidence. He conducted an exploratory dig through a patch of earth where Hitler’s remains were said to have been reburied by the Soviets in the decades after World War II, searching for bone fragments. He also gained access to the Russian national archives, where he reviewed documents related to the Soviets’ handling of Hitler’s remains, and examined and gained DNA evidence from blood and bone fragments the Russians have said for decades belonged to the Nazi dictator.

 
Another view of the skull that had been reputed to be that of Adolf Hitler
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Accounts differ as to the cause of death; one that he died by poison only and another that he died by a self-inflicted gunshot, while biting down on a cyanide capsule. Contemporary historians have rejected these accounts as being either Soviet propaganda or an attempted compromise in order to reconcile the different conclusions. One eye-witness recorded that the body showed signs of having been shot through the mouth, but this has been proven unlikely. There is also controversy regarding the authenticity of skull and jaw fragments which were recovered. As stated above in 2009, DNA tests were performed on a skull Soviet officials had long believed to be Hitler’s. The tests revealed that the skull was actually that of a female under 40 years old
 

The remains of the above-ground portion of the Führerbunker in the garden of the Reich Chancellery. Entrance is to the left and circular structure was for generators and ventilation.

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Different versions of Hitler’s fate were presented by the Soviet Union according to its political desires. In the years immediately following 1945, the Soviets maintained Hitler was not dead, but had fled and was being shielded by former western allies. This worked for a time to cause western authorities some doubt. The chief of the U.S. trial counsel at Nuremberg, Thomas J. Dodd, said: “No one can say he is dead.” When President Truman asked Stalin at the Potsdam Conference in August 1945 whether or not Hitler was dead, Stalin replied bluntly, ‘No’. However, by 11 May 1945, the Soviets had already had Hitler’s dentist, Hugo Blaschke, and his dental technician confirm the dental remains found were Hitler’s and Braun’s. In November 1945, Dick White, then head of counter-intelligence in the British sector of Berlin (and later head of MI5 and MI6 in succession), had their agent, Hugh Trevor-Roper, investigate the matter to counter the Soviet claims. His findings as to Hitler’s last days and suicide were written in a report and published in book form in 1947. 

 
Schematic of the Führerbunker
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Credit: Wikipedia

In 1969, Soviet journalist Lev Bezymensky’s book on the death of Hitler was published in the West. It included the SMERSH autopsy report, but because of the earlier disinformation attempts, western historians thought it untrustworthy. 

In 1970, the SMERSH facility, by then controlled by the KGB, was scheduled to be handed over to the East German government. Fearing that a known Hitler burial site might become a Neo-Nazi shrine, KGB director Yuri Andropov authorised an operation to destroy the remains that had been buried in Magdeburg on 21 February 1946. A Soviet KGB team was given detailed burial charts. On 4 April 1970 they secretly exhumed five wooden boxes containing the remains of “10 or 11 bodies … in an advanced state of decay”. The remains were thoroughly burned and crushed, after which the ashes were thrown into the Biederitz river, a tributary of the nearby Elbe.  

 
Grave site of Georg Anton Poch, the reputed assumed identity of Adolf Hitler

Bellantoni is a professor of anthropology at UConn as well as the state archaeologist at theConnecticut State Museum of Natural History; Strausbaugh is the director of the Center for Applied Genetics and Technology in the Department of Molecular and Cell Biology; and Dawn Pettinelli is manager of the Home and Garden Education Center and Soil Nutrient Analysis Laboratory.

 
Contacts and sources:
University of Conneticut
Wikipedia 

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  • he had a satanist Illuminati card and used it to get out! :arrow: :twisted:

  • He went to Hawaii.

  • Relax, guys. I have Hitler in the Pit.

  • I thought he was supposed to be in Paraguay or Argentina ! This whole “Hunt for Hitler” thing is beginning to sound a lot like Where in the world is Carmen Santiago or Find Waldo !!! I’m beginning to think he’s actually buried with Jimmy Hoffa under the Playboy Mansion !!!

  • Who cares? In what respect? This is only an attempt to keep a big lie alive the holo-hoax, less than 300 000, by Red-cross numbers.
    And most died because of the allied bombing of the supply-line to the working camps, it is also true it was much safer in the camps than outside at the time, they stayed and starved to death.
    And no gas-chambers, cyclone B was used to kill lice, typhoid was of concern.

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