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I encountered a link to a interesting popular article “Causal Witness” Provides First Experimental Evidence Of Indefinite Causal Order (see this). The article tells about an article Experimental verification of an indefinite causal order by Rubio et al (see this). In the following are my first impressions. Probably I mest update impressions. The findings are however so fascinating that I cannot resists the temptation to
post them in blog.
1. Indefinite causal order
The abstract of the article Rubio et al might give some idea about what is involved.
Investigating the role of causal order in quantum mechanics has recently revealed that the causal relations of events may not be a priori well-defined in quantum theory. Although this has triggered a growing interest on the theoretical side, creating processes without a causal order is an experimental task. We report the first decisive demonstration of a process with an indefinite causal order. To do this, we quantify how incompatible our setup is with a definite causal order by measuring a “causal witness”>. This mathematical object incorporates a series of measurements that are designed to yield a certain outcome only if the process under examination is not consistent with any well-defined causal order. In our experiment, we perform a measurement in a superposition of causal orders—without destroying the coherence—to acquire information both inside and outside of a causally non-ordered process. Using this information, we experimentally determine a causal witness, demonstrating by almost 7 SDs that the experimentally implemented process does not have a definite causal order.
The experiment thus shows that they are are processes which cannot have a definite causal order in the sense that they are superposition of opposite causal orders. The notion of causal order is discussed in the article “Quantum correlations with no causal order” by Oreshkov et al (see this). Unfortunately, I do not have prerequisites to say anything interesting about the experiment itself. Since causal order is fixed by that associated with space-time in standard physics, the implications of the experiment could be world view changing.
Second basic notion is called SWITCH. One has two events A and B, which can be connected by a time-like curve. One can tell whether A precedes B or vice versa. SWITCH is a quantum computer operation switching the causal order. The obvious manner to do this would permute A and B and would require “time travel” not allowed in standard physics.
If superpositions of causal orders are possible, one can have a situation in which causal order is indefinite. Also this is something which does not conform the ordinary view about physics in fixed space-time but is allowed by postulates for quantum computation and there even exist an example of quantum computation impossible with a fixed causal order.
The notions of causal order and superposition of causal orders are revolutionary ideas and the article claims that they have been experimentally verified. Therefore there are excellent motivations to find whether they could be be understood in TGD framework.
2. ZEO and discrete symmetries for twistor lift of TGD
First some background.
Zero energy states for given basis have been subject to a state function reduction at either boundary of CD – passive boundary. Neither the passive boundary nor the members of state pairs at it appearing in the superposition of state pairs are affected in repeated state function reductions. One has what I have called generalized Zeno effect.
At the opposite boundary the states evolve: every state function reduction is followed by a unitary time evolution ending to a localization of the active boundary of CD. The temporal distance between the tips of CD increases in this process and gives to clock time and experienced flow of time.
Eventually the first reduction to the opposite boundary occurs and the roles of active and passive boundary of CD are changed. One can say that time reversed zero energy state is obtained and begins to evolve. The first reduction to the opposite boundary of CD would mean death of the conscious entity defined by the sequence of state function reductions at the same boundary of CD and generation of time reversed re-incarnation of self.
3. Two views about SWITCH and superposition of causal orders
One can imagine two approaches to the identification of SWITCH operation and superposition of causal orders.
3.1 Option I: SWITCH as time reversal (as “time travel”)
This operation would also permute the values fermionic states at the boundaries of CD. This would correspond to “time travel” option. If T is violated, the connecting space-time surfaces for the causal orders would not be be simply time reflections of each other with respect to the center point of CD. This implies differences visible in the dynamics of spinors.
If T is violated it is not at all obvious that all pairs of 3-surfaces at opposite boundaries of CD can appear as boundaries of preferred extremals. It is also quite possible that only the 3-surface at the passive boundary can be taken by T to the opposite boundary of CD as such. The 3-surface at opposite boundary would change in the process by T-violation for preferred extremals. It could be that the sub-WCWs formed by pairs and the time reversals and disjoint and form different sectors of WCW.
3.2 Option II: SWITCH as the first state function reduction to the opposite boundary of CD
Could SWITCH be realized as the first state function reduction to the opposite boundary – death of self followed by a re-incarnation as time-reversed self? At least the analogy of SWITCH is in questions. This SWITCH does not correspond to “time travel”.
What about the superposition of self and time reversed self? Schrödinger cat would be transformed to a superposition of cat and re-incarnated cat! This does not look plausible idea. I have assumed that the first reduction corresponds to a localization or to a basis of WCW spinor fields for which the parts of fermionic states at second boundary are state function reduced.
Contrary to what I have proposed, this need not require localization to a different – time reversed sector of WCW. This is however possible: if the initial an final zero energy states are orthogonal (inner product for zero energy states would involve both boundaries of CD): the sectors would have no common pairs of 3-surfaces at the boundaries of CD. The violation of T symmetry could cause this.
If the CDs with different arrow of time correspond to different sectors of WCW, then different causal orders could correspond to states localized in these these sectors. If so, a superposition of causal orders would correspond to WCW spinor field having component in both these sectors. In state function reduction to opposite boundary the causal orders of these components would change. If state function reduction takes place at the level of entire WCW, as seems natural, it should occur simultaneously in both sectors of WCW. There would be also a state function reduction measuring causal order and therefore performing a localization in either sector. SWITCH would switch these sectors.
The cautious conclusion is that Option I seems is more plausible.
4. Higher level quantum computations and ZEO
From the article of Rubio et al one ends up to an article Quantum computations without definite causal structure by Chiribella et al (see this). The article considers a rather far reaching generalization of quantum computation. Ordinary quantum computation is a time evolution of quantum states followed by a state function reduction. Since the outcome of state function reduction halting the quantum computer program is non-deterministic, the extraction of the result involves statistical averaging over a large enough number of quantum computations to get the outcome, say prime factorization or a period of periodic function.
The notion of classical computation is however generalized by Church. The computation need not be a function but can assign function to a function. One can continue this abstraction hierarchy indefinitely and it is realized formally in terms of so called Λ calculus (see this). Could this hierarchy be extended to quantum computations? The quantum computation in question would assign to quantum computation a quantum computation, it would be a kind of super-computation.
In TGD this kind of hierarchies emerge naturally. At space-time level there is hierarchy of space-time sheets: space-time sheet is (topologically) condensed to a larger space-time sheet and contains smaller space-time sheets condensed at it. The hierarchy of infinite primes corresponds to an infinite hierarchy of second quantizations and could relate to this hierarchy (see this). In each scale space-time sheets would be particles consisting of smaller particles consisting of… Even galaxy could be seen as elementary particle in some scale and at the galactic space-time sheet.
The analog of quantum computational hierarchy emerges quite concretely in ZEO. The simplest zero energy states have positive and negative energy states with opposite total quantum numbers at the opposite boundaries of CD (intersection of future and past directed light-cones). One can have CDs within CDs. Furthermore, the positive/negative energy states assignable to the boundaries of CD could be also zero energy states associated with smaller CDs near the boundaries of CD. The simplest zero energy states correspond to quantum evolution representing ordinary quantum computation. Higher level zero energy stats would represent time evolution assigning to a quantum computation represented as zero energy state at the boundary of CD a second quantum computation at opposite boundary of CD.
For a summary of earlier postings see Latest progress in TGD.
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