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The Reason Why the Elite Are Hiding Deep Beneath the Earth

Wednesday, August 19, 2015 6:56
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The elite have siphoning off black budget money in order to build their new getaways.

The elite have siphoning off black budget money in order to build their new getaways.

 

Lessons Learned from Fukushima

Fukushima is often spoken of by many, as a possible extinction level event because of the radiation threat. Fukushima continues to wreak havoc upon the world and in the United States as we are being bathed in deadly radiation from this event.

Coming to a neighborhood near you.

Because of Fukushima, fish are becoming inedible and the ocean currents as well as the prevailing ocean winds are carrying deadly radiation. Undoubtedly, by this time, the radioactivity has made its way into the transpiration cycle which means that crops are being dowsed with deadly radiation. The radiation has undoubtedly made its way into the water table in many areas and impacts every aspect of the food supply. The health costs to human beings is incalculable. However, this article is not about the devastation at Fukushima, instead, this article focuses on the fact that North America could have a total of 124 Fukushima events if the necessary conditions were present and the culprit behind this threat are the Chinese.

Tiajin

What happened at Tiajin? The range of possibilities are very narrow. Some have suggested that the event at Tiahin is no more than an unfortunate accident. This suggestion is completely laughable given the dramatic change in current state of military activity inside of China. As I have previously reported, some have suggested that the American attack upon Tiajin was in response to the Chinese currency devaluation. I think it is much more than that. Regardless, America just poked China in the ribs and anyone who understands the Chinese military temperament could easily predict that China will retaliate with a dramatic response of its own.

Chinese-American Brinkmanship

As America prepares for a dramatic retaliation, we should be mindful of the escalations that have already transpired since the Chinese devalued their currency by 1.7%.

August 12, 2915  Massive chemical explosion in China
 
August 14, 2015  Massive chemical explosion in Texas.
 
August 16, 2015  U.S. government warns China about covert agents in U.S. as reported in the  NY Times
 
August 16, 2015   North Korea threatens to invade the United States and use  new secret unknown weapons to make war with America inside the United States.
 
August 17, 2015   As previously mentioned, Russia reported to be sending in 50,000  more troops for placement on Ukraine border.  There is now a strong likelihood that there will be a Russian invasion.
 
August 18, 2015 China and Russia begin holding very large joint military drills.

There are two other very disturbing facts that when considered in the context of the present day, should be of grave concern to the citizens of the United States.

  1. In the Bundy standoff of last year, it was common knowledge that the Chinese fully intended to put a solar energy farm  on the Bundy Ranch.
  2. The Chinese are heavily invested in solar power development in the United States. And what would a highly developed solar system replace? It could replace nuclear power, thus rendering the nuclear power plants to be worthless.

In response to the Tiajin event, China could launch a full military response which I do not think is likely.  The Chinese could lessen the risk to their military by creating an EMP event which would very quickly cause America’s nuclear power plants to fail and we would see 104 Fukushima’s on American soil. I think it is very likely that the present military actions by Russia and China are designed to be a distraction against their real intention, which is an EMP attack in which American nuclear power plants are targeted. The specter of 104 nuclear events in this country would render the United States uninhabitable. The reporting of the recent proliferation of EMP weapons with regard to China, Russia and North Korea increase the likelihood that this is an accurate forecast. Further, did you know that when the infamous Grid Ex II drills, which were designed to simulate an attack upon our power grid using EMP weapons in November of 2013, that President Obama allowed the Russians and the Chinese a front row seat at the event. Stupidity or treason? Did Obama show the Chinese how to take down our grid? It is water under the bridge and the damage to national security has already been done.

Chinese retaliation for Tianjin will only take two forms, a conventional military response or an attack upon the American grid. I think the evidence suggests that our grid is in dire danger. Regardless of the scenario, it now makes a great deal of sense why the elite have massive seed vaults and vast array of underground tunnels and bunkers. The intended human survivors are moving underground while the rest of us are left to deal with

 

A Festering Problem

Long before Fukushima, American regulators knew that a power failure lasting for days involving the power grid connected to a nuclear plant, regardless of the cause, would most likely lead to a dangerous radioactive leak in at least several nuclear power plants. A complete loss of electrical power poses a major problem for nuclear power plants because the reactor core must be kept cool as well as the back-up cooling systems, all of which require massive amounts of power to work. Heretofore, all the NERC drills which test the readiness of a nuclear power plant are predicated on the notion that a blackout will only last 24 hours or less. Amazingly, this is the sum total of a NERC litmus test.   Although we have the technology needed to harden and protect our grid from an EMP event, whether natural or man-made, we have failed to do so. The cost for protecting the entire grid is placed at about the cost for one B-1 Stealth Bomber. Yet, as a nation, we have done nothing. This is inexplicable and inexcusable.

Our collective inaction against protecting the grid prompted Congressman Franks to write a scathing letter to the top officials of NERC. However, the good Congressman failed to mention the most important aspect of this problem. The problem is entirely fixable and NERC and the US government are leaving the American people and its infrastructure totally unprotected from a total meltdown of nuclear power plants as a result of a prolonged power failure.

Critical Analyses

According to Judy Haar, a recognized expert in nuclear plant failure analyses, when a nuclear power plant loses access to off-grid electricity, the event is referred to as a “station blackout”. Haar states that all 104 US nuclear power plants are built to withstand electrical outages without experiencing any core damage, through the activation of an automatic start up of emergency generators powered by diesel. Further, when emergency power kicks in, an automatic shutdown of the nuclear power plant commences. The dangerous control rods are dropped into the core, while water is pumped by the diesel power generators into the reactor to reduce the heat and thus, prevent a meltdown. Here is the catch in this process, the spent fuel rods are encased in both a primary and secondary containment structure which is designed to withstand a core meltdown. However, should the pumps stop because either the generators fail or diesel fuel is not available, the fuel rods are subsequently uncovered and a Fukushima type of core meltdown commences immediately. At this point, I took Judy Haar’s comments to a source of mine at the Palo Verde Nuclear power plant. My source informed me that as per NERC policy, nuclear power plants are required to have enough diesel fuel to run for a period of seven days. Some plants have thirty days of diesel. This is the good news, but it is all downhill from here as an EMP attack would prove devastating to nuclear power plants.

The Unresolved Power Blackout Problem

A long-term loss of outside electrical power will most certainly interrupt the circulation of cooling water to the pools. Another one of my Palo Verde nuclear power plant sources informed me that there is no long term solution to a power blackout and that all bets are off if the blackout is due to an EMP attack. A more detailed analysis reveals that the spent fuel pools carry depleted fuel for the reactor. Normally, this spent fuel has had time to considerably decay and therefore, reducing radioactivity and heat. However, the newer discharged fuel still produces heat and needs cooling. Housed in high density storage racks, contained in buildings that vent directly into the atmosphere, radiation containment is not accounted for with regard to the spent fuel racks. In other words, there is no capture mechanism. In this scenario, accompanied by a lengthy electrical outage, and with the emergency power waning due to either generator failure or a lack of diesel needed to power the generators, the plant could lose the ability to provide cooling. The water will subsequently heat up, boil away and uncover the spent fuel rods which required being covered in at least 25 feet of water to remain benign from any deleterious effects. Ultimately, this would lead to fires as well and the release of radioactivity into the atmosphere. This would be the beginning of another Fukushima event right here on American soil. Both my source and Haar shared exactly the same scenario about how a meltdown would occur. Subsequently, I spoke with Roger Landry who worked for Raytheon in various Department of Defense projects for 28 years, many of them in this arena and Roger also confirmed this information and that the above information is well known in the industry. When I examine Congressman Franks letter to NERC and I read between the lines, it is clear that Franks knows of this risk as well, he just stops short of specifically mentioning it in his letter.

Placing Odds On a Failure Is a Fools Errand

An analysis of individual plant risks released in 2003 by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission shows that for 39 of the 104 nuclear reactors, the risk of core damage from a blackout was greater than 1 in 100,000. At 45 other plants the risk is greater than 1 in 1 million, the threshold NRC is using to determine which severe accidents should be evaluated in its latest analysis. According to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, the Beaver Valley Power Station, Unit 1, in Pennsylvania has the greatest risk of experiencing a core meltdown, 6.5 in 100,000, according to the analysis. These odds don’t sound like much until you consider that we have 124 nuclear power generating plants in the US and Canada and when we consider each individual facility, the odds of failure climb. How many meltdowns would it take in this country before our citizens would be condemned to the hellish nightmare, or worse, being experienced by the Japanese?

The Question That’s Not Being Asked

None of the NERC, or the Nuclear Regulatory tests of handling a prolonged blackout at a nuclear power plant have answered two critical questions, “What happens when these nuclear power plants run out of diesel fuel needed to run the generators”, and “What happens when some of these generators fail”? In the event of an EMP attack, can tanker trucks with diesel fuel get to all of the nuclear power plants in the US in time to re-fuel them before they stop running? Will tanker trucks even be running themselves in the aftermath of an EMP attack? And in the event of an EMP attack, it is not likely that any plant which runs low on fuel, or has a generator malfunctions, will ever get any help to mitigate the crisis prior to a plethora of meltdowns occurring. Thus, every nuclear power plant in the country has the potential to cause a Chernobyl or Fukushima type accident if our country is hit by an EMP attack.

CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE 124 FUKUSHIMA EVENTS IN NORTH AMERICA HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME? THIS WOULD CONSTITUTE THE ULTIMATE DEPOPULATION EVENT.

…And There Is More…

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It is not a matter of "if" but "when".

It is not a matter of “if” but “when”.

he ramifications raised in the previous paragraphs are significant. What if the blackout lasts longer than 24 hours? What if the reason for the blackout is an EMP burst caused by a high altitude nuclear blast and transportation comes to a standstill? In this instance, the cavalry is not coming. Adding fuel to the fire lies in the fact that the power transformers presently take at least one year to replace. Today, there is a three year backlog on ordering because so many have been ordered by China. This makes one wonder what the Chinese are preparing for with these multiple orders for both transformers and generators. In short, our unpreparedness is a prescription for disaster. As a byproduct of my investigation, I have discovered that most, if not all, of the nuclear power plants are on known earthquake fault lines. All of California’s nuclear power plants are located on an earthquake fault line. Can anyone tell me why would anyone in their right mind build a nuclear power plant on a fault line? To see the depth of this threat you can visit an interactive, overlay map at this site.

Conclusion

The U.S. has stirred the beast and the beast has many ways to strike back. The only remaining question is, how far is China willing to go to retaliate for America’s attack? When one examines China’s history, we should consider that the Chinese will indeed strike us where we are most vulnerable and that means through creating an EMP event designed to attack our nuclear power plants.

When we look at the mass exodus that is taking place among ex-intel and bankers, we have to ask ourselves a question. What do they know that we should know?  We should have all listened to Congressman Trent Franks when he wanted to harden the infrastructure against an EMP attack.

There will be life in America after such an attack, it will life that has moved underground.

In the aftermath of America’s attack, the Chinese are just too quiet!

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  • Thank you Dave … keep up the great work you are doing …. God bless

    • What is the proof or indication that the U.S. did indeed attack Tiajin . If this is true, then I agree that China is way too QUITE .

      • …time to rent Red Dawn I and II again :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

      • “China is way too QUITE” :roll: I don’t think I got this…

        • … normally they would yell bloody murder at the U.S. is we did indeed cause the explosion … but if it is true and they do not react outwardly then they may have other plans .

          • Oh,so you mean they are “QUITE calm”

        • He doesn’t know how to spell “quiet.”

          • QUITE SO ….whoops

    • Again no proof that USA did it. :!: :!:

    • Well done to Common Sense. It is so refreshing to read such a sensible well written piece stating so clearly what is so obvious to so many of us.
      You chose an apt name Common Sense.

      • Unlike his critics, who do no research, have no interest in saving the planet and can find nothing better to do than nit pick those who do.

        • well said Yogensha …that was quite astute of you and I just could not keep quiet about it.

    • Before sharing your gratitude you really should keep in mind some facts. After the accident 2 leaders of that company(and their familys) were arrested. The official Chinese channels published that they claimed to be front men, not real owners, = inner power strugle. 2 leaders, other owning 55% and other 45% of the company. Now some people might find this weird, but it is very common in communist China for ”humble leadership” to hide their fortune behind front men, and everyone knows this over there.
      Company had functioned for years but received it’s business licenses couple of months a go … In totalitarian China. – Therefore real owners must be very influential PLA generals, every other social group would be in very deep sh*t and there would be arrests instead of military movements. Only very thoughtless person judges communist China as normal western society, it’s clash of warlords there… :lol:

  • Leo

    Something Is Rotten In The State Of Israel !!! :eek: :eek:
    http://www.darkmoon.me/2015/something-is-rotten-in-the-state-of-israel-2/

  • :shock: Troll Alert :shock: : watch for TROLL comments as Dave is attacked for this article !

    • The TROLLS must all be sleeping late today and should have their pay reduced . According to Snowden , in his exposure of the JTRIG secret documents of 2012 , the 4 D’s of trolling are DENY / DISRUPT / DEGRADE / DECEIVE …… come out … come out … let’s see how you do today . :shock: :shock:

      • Another tactic of a “troll” is to accuse your opposition of exactly what YOU are doing. Just something to think about over your morning coffee.

        • :shock: / TROLL ALERT / :shock:

          • …NOTICE THE ADROIT USE ON NUMBER FOUR : DECEPTION

          • mike,

            Hodges is another idiot with a slew of sensationalized predictions where nothing ever happens.

            When his JH15 predictions fall flat, you’ll see him latch on to something else… like Taijin.

            Get with the program, mike. It’s not that difficult to see the agendas at play here.

          • Scanner .. :shock: / TROLL ALERT / :shock: : NO.3 DEGRADATION

          • You’re obviously the troll here, mike. You’re not fooling anyone. Keep trying though. It makes this place a little more interesting.

        • It’s unbelievable, mike.

          You exhibit the level of maturity I would expect from someone much younger than I.

          I’m 25. What are you, 60?

          How does it feel to have a youg’in tell you to grow the f*ck up?

          • come-on Scanner … no. 3 again … be more creative … :shock: / TROLL ALERT / :shock: : DEGRADATION

          • Why don’t you teach me a thing or two about creativity then, mike.

            Your incredible variation in vocabulary and has left me tongue-tied.

          • :shock: …. :razz:

          • Those must be the two brain cells I referenced earlier, blown up to scale, of course.

            I imagine their ability to generate a single response to much like your own.

          • You made me laugh out loud Scanner …. you can’t be all bad… certainly not tongue-tied. :razz:

          • Mike, Scanner Darko is the real deal and not a troll. Mike, it’s time to free yourself and not support the fear porn articles plastered on BIN.

          • Super ….how do you know and why are you so concerned ? Trolls are constantly supporting their fellow trolls. Have you seen any trolls on the internet lately ? :shock: / TROLL ALERT / :shock:

    • I rushed to the window,
      And I looked outside,
      But I could hardly believe my eyes -
      As a big limousine rolled up
      Into Elite’s drive…

      Oh, I don’t know why they’re leaving,
      Or where they’re gonna go,
      I guess they’ve got their reasons,
      But I just don’t want to know,
      ‘Cos for twenty-four years
      I’ve been living next door to Elite.
      Elite, WHO the fuck is Elite?

      • ELITE : these are the ruling power elite… a small group of people who control a disproportionate amount of wealth and political power. See excellent article on Wikipedia. These are the rats that know when to run below, and have the money and connections to do so.

        • Sorry,I wanted to be satirical.

          • mike doesn’t think very well. He jumps to the conclusion before he’s even picked up the book.

          • That is a number 3 Scanner :shock: :razz:

          • Funny thing is, you’re working against your own interest by running around like a raving lunatic, calling everyone a conspiring troll.

            I didn’t expect this level of extremity but the paranoia you have on display is exactly what I intended to bring out of you so everyone could see the type of people Lyn, Lisa, and Hodges attract.

          • Sorry, this post was supposed to fall after your response to SuperMario, who I can’t recall ever having a discussion with.

  • Let the elite dig themselves down. Chances are small that they will ever com up again, but they may rather find the exits blocked.

    In the 80es I attended a workshop by an Amerindian shaman. He said that the spirits had told him that the elite will dig themselves down and believe to be projected, but the spirits added: It does not matter, we will get them from below…

  • It’s all our own fault! We have chased after the coolest gadget but failed to take care of infrastructure and ensure a secure defense… God’s hand of protection is about to be removed from America and it’s our own fault.

    God’s judgment is coming soon.. We have systematically cut God out of every aspect of human life and we will soon feel God’s wrath. We have thrown God out of schools; we have murdered millions of innocent babies through abortion; we have affirmed same-sex marriage. The Lord God is about to remove his hand of protection of America and will allow evil to overtake it. The Lord will send judgment on all the nations who are involved in the the peace treaty between Israel and Palestine. When Israel is divided, judgment will commence on the all the nations who agreed. The Lord promised that all those who would seek to divide Israel shall have their land divided.

    I don’t like to proclaim dates, however, one week in September of 2015 seems to have sooooooooooooo many prophetic events taking place that it’s kind of hard NOT to mention it. There are so many posts on BIN regarding September 2015; so many people have been having dreams of what is to come, and the fact that so many have dreamed the same thing is just too much to be coincidental.

    It’s time to wake up and get your life right with God. Trust in Jesus Christ as your personal Savior by believing he died on the cross for your sins. Accept him into your heart and follow his ways; he will forgive you and then will send the Holy Spirit to help you.

    Bible prophecy is coming to pass… We don’t have much time as no one is promised tomorrow. Trust in Jesus today and start your new life…

    God Bless

  • Elite Conception ~ Nepotic Election

    • My2pesos ~ Smoooty pews

  • We can’t ignore planetx. That’s why the bunkers were made in the first place. Dave, you have great work. Please review Bob Fletcher’s work. There is no other reason for these pukes to hide. Yeah ok China, etc. But the reality is we are all gonna get wiped out by a planetary system, period the end, and they know it.

    • Right-on … except Fletcher is about two months too late .

  • Are there fisheries along the west coast of america and canada that can verify if the problem wit sea life is caused by Fukushima or something else?

    • I think it has a lot to do with the Navy “experiments”- read “destruction” all along the west coast and the gulf of mexico and also i believe the east coast as well….to last 10 years . The experiment is to see whether or not they can kill all life on the planet. No mention in the media. No news there – pun intended. This they literally brag will kill all the mammals andas well as the fish. Can we say SATANIC. CAN we say dumb sheep? Lets say it all together now!

  • I appreciate you sharing this. But this is the first I have read about the U.S attacking Tiajin China, and I get news stories from numerous alternative news sources. Nevertheless, I agree that the threat of an EMP event and the possible consequences to nuclear reactors ia real. Thanks again. http://www.fcccp.yolasite.com

  • Overall, I can appreciate the position that Dave is coming from…having almost been forced into activism and finding (and/or being pushed) down the proverbial rabbit hole. Yeah, truth is stranger than fiction..and much more interesting. Being unplugged always seems to happen by accident, but the universal law of cause & effect remind otherwise.

    And regardless of what Dave presents, the paid shills and trolls will drop their load(s) on command. Most of them naturally assume the Marxist “all or nothing” approach. More exactly, they’ll nitpick superfluous bits, whilst suggesting that one chuck the whole. Note: similarities between the “one size fits all” approach also applied to their (common core) education and healthcare systems. Of course, sometimes people do the right thing(s) and conspiracy reports appear to go wrong for that reason. But that is a very good reason, indeed! Ironically, these positive events may even come about because of people like Dave who share what they have learned about the environment that we currently exist in.

    • Well said … the trolls will drop their loads … basically four types according to Snowden’s 2012 JTRIG disclosures …. Deny / Disrupt / Degrade / Deceive ….

      • So what then when the deceivers are the ones posting the stories and what then of the guy “mike” defending them?

        • Deceivers spreading deception by posting stories? NO WAY!!!

          The deceivers spoken about for the End Times can only be at the bottom of the page where most people won’t even read!

          (That’s mike giving us his best Geir Smith logic impression – like how the Antichrist Obama will be defeated when he’s charged in criminal court, thus ending the Apocalypse.)

        • LAME …where are all of the other trolls today ?

          • You’re an enigma, mike, and a fine petri dish specimen.

            When placed under a microscope to be analysed through the keen eye of observation, I see in you a single-celled organism and a carbon copy of every deluded thinker, frantically attempting to rub both of it’s two brain cells together in order to generate enough energy for the simple propose of creating a legitimate insult.

            Instead of manning-up and attempting to address the specifics of your delusion, you would rather wine and blame everyone who identifies your flawed, childish logic. :razz:

          • Yikes … the very idea of your giant eye looking down on me ‘petrifies’ me. … but rather than an eye for an eye I will just continue to point out where you are coming from. :shock: :shock: :shock:

          • Here!

  • Dave, please stay off the crack pipe.

  • hi

  • Even if he’s wrong….so what? At least he’s intelligent. does his homework and posts headlines that reflect his story. Puting him in the LL category is unbelieveable. they are at opposite ends of the spectrum. :razz:

  • Let me stop your slippery slope of claims right here, by calling out a complete fallacy:
    “The Chinese are heavily invested in solar power development in the United States. And what would a highly developed solar system replace? It could replace nuclear power, thus rendering the nuclear power plants to be worthless.”

    Anyone who knows ANYTHING about the energy industry knows that solar is NOT a replacement for nuclear power. Why? Because the sun only shines long enough to make power for 12 to 14 hours a day. You can’t store solar energy in quantities sufficient for utility scale power. Therefore, you have a 10 to 12 hour power deficit where your grid would go down if you relied only on solar.

    Solar is not baseload power. Nuclear IS baseload power because it delivers electricity 24/7/365.

    Until batteries or other energy storage methods exist that would allow you to gather solar energy and store it in quantities sufficient to deliver hundreds of megawatts to the grid all night long, solar cannot and will not replace nuclear.

    We are easily decades away from that.

    This “article” is full of these illogical leaps and unfounded statements. No credibility.

    • I agree that Dave’s point about the solar replacing the nuclear is unclear, but this is a minor issue to the theme of the article. Name some of the other ” full of these illogical leaps and unfounded statements ” if you can.

      • You can’t see the forest through the trees, mike.

        I’ve tried to be cordial with you. I’ve tried to point you in the right direction (on other articles) in regards to these illogical leaps and unfounded statements.

        You don’t want to listen. You just resort ad hominem attacks and childish insults when you don’t get your way.

        But, let’s try this again:

        “Some have suggested that the event at Tiahin is no more than an unfortunate accident. This suggestion is completely laughable given the dramatic change in current state of military activity inside of China.”

        … Oh yea? Our oober-powerful American government wanted to really hurt China, so they sent a guy with a small bomb to a storage container facility Tianjin…right…

        “China will retaliate with a dramatic response of its own.”

        … From what precedent is this prediction founded on?

        “it was common knowledge that the Chinese fully intended to put a solar energy farm on the Bundy Ranch.”

        … And it was the American government who wanted to help them do this? The same American government that wants to destroy low-populated residential areas? It couldn’t have had anything to with Bundy not paying the grazing fees for having his livestock on FEDERALLY owned land, right? It must have been China’s fault :roll:

        “In response to the Tiajin event, China could launch a full military response”

        … Even if Tiajin was America, again, where’s the precedent. Out of all the false flags America has conducted in foreign land, why hasn’t anyone responded? I imagine that China would need a little more incentive to launch a “full military response”. It was a storage facility in Tianjin that got hit, not the capital building in Beijing.

        Or… “The Chinese could lessen the risk to their military by creating an EMP event”

        …Uh huh :roll: … Hodges has said the same thing about Iran, North Korea, Russia, and others… Eventually he might get it right.

        I just went through about 1/5 of the article.

        See how this works?

        • …sorry Scanner, but I truly do not find any of this compelling. Try this …read your editorial … just the Dave quotes …makes perfect sense. Now, read it again leaving out the Dave quotes… see what I mean. :shock:

          • No I don’t.

          • You’re really grasping at straws her, mike. Truth is usually self-evident. The problem with lies is that they can only be backed up with more of the same. Either you have very obvious agenda or you’re just plain stupid. It’s like you’ll stop at nothing to believe a lie. And for what?

          • Clucker … “truth is usually self-evident” … Isaiah 59 is where we are today … “for truth is fallen in the street”. Just look at the MSM.

          • mike,
            Allow me to call you broken arrow because once again you’re missing the point.

            mike said:

            “…sorry Scanner, but I truly do not find any of this compelling. Try this …read your editorial … just the Dave quotes …makes perfect sense. Now, read it again leaving out the Dave quotes… see what I mean.”

            The whole point of the Dave quotes being in his comment in the first place was to show where Dave was wrong. Since he was quoting Dave to show that he’s wrong….. what would be the point in reading it without the quotes? That would defeat the whole purpose of the comment. See what I mean?

          • Dumb-Cluck :shock: :razz:

          • You are going to have to type slower and shorten up the sentences Clucker.

            Mike can hit a grapefruit if it’s lobbed slowly in a high arc…. but that’s only IF you’ve got his complete attention. Ie. Only if he’s evacuated his bowels already today.

          • Dumb-Chet :shock: :razz:

          • The petty name calling is all he has left once again.

            Walter quote:

            “It’s hard to leave when you can’t find the door.”

            No worries though. Just find a sledge hammer and a wall. I bet you’ll figure out what to do from there.

        • Dumb- Cluck :shock: :razz: …Dumb-Cluck :shock: …Dumb-Cluck … Dumb …Dumb da Dumb … :oops:

          • What are some of Walter’s other famous sayings ? I saw a good one by the Geeper somewhere today, but can not remember what it was.

          • If you could just run up against that wall …

          • Snip, Snap, Snout … this tale’s all told out ………….

    • Well at the very least they would replace nuclear power as nuclear power only covers a fraction of the total power generation dim wit.

      • Nuclear is baseload power. It can’t be replaced with solar. I could be replaced by coal, gas, trash, biofuel – anything that can provide baseload (always on) power.

        Solar is only supplemental, daytime energy. It’s worthless when you’re trying to keep your lights on at night. Same thing goes for wind. It’s supplemental power but worthless as baseload without energy storage, which doesn’t exist yet.

    • Homes are running everywhere soley powered by solar energy with no other input and actually feed in their excess to the grid 24/7. They do have storage batteries. what is this clown on about. :mrgreen: :arrow: :idea: :wink:

      • I get it – he WAS born yesterday :arrow: hence 2018 after his common nmae representative of the group deluded mindset.

        • ie ’2016′ and “name” – I was so thrown by the stupidity and negativity I couldn’t think :oops: .

      • Yoge, you are ignorant of energy issues. I work in the industry, you do not. Listen to what I’m saying and stop getting all riled up about an issue you don’t understand at all.

        Nuclear power delivers constant, 24/7 electricity to the grid. This is called baseload power because it forms the base for load demand on the grid. You must have a certain amount of juice equal to or greater than demand flowing on the grid at all times, every moment of the day, or you have blackouts or brownouts.

        Utility scale solar, which is what the author of this article was alluding to, is unable to provide baseload power right now because you can’t deliver power at night. If you took nuclear plants offline and just replaced them with solar, your grid would instantly collapse when the sun went down.

        The reason some people can run their own homes only on solar power is because they store up enough energy during the day in batteries to meet their nighttime energy needs (or because they simply don’t use electricity at night). But this is not a utility scale option yet.

        You also described the practice of net-metering, where someone with solar panels on their house is feeding power back to the grid. During the day they have enough solar power to run their own home and also sell back to the grid. But come dusk, when the sun goes down, where do you think this person’s energy comes from? It comes from nuclear power, coal power, hydro or other baseload sources. It’s not like the grid stores up energy and sends it back to you at night. The only reason net metering works is because these folks are still relying on baseload sources at night.

        This is what you don’t seem to understand. When you flip a light switch in your home, the electricity you are using isn’t coming from a stored source. It reaches your home at virtually the same moment it is produced inside the power plant’s turbine. I believe I’ve read that electricity moves at roughly 1/100th the speed of light inside wires, so it’s reaching you just a second or so after it was produced.

        What this really means is that utilities must always be making the exact amount of power that everyone in the country needs – at the moment it is needed. Any less and the lights go off somewhere. Any more and they’re losing money. There is, of course, a lot of excess capacity built in to the grid. But it still must flow 24/7.

        The grid doesn’t have batteries or energy storage yet. Thus, energy sources that can’t deliver 24/7 power CAN’T, by definition, replace baseload sources like nuclear. Utility solar CANNOT replace a nuclear plant. Case closed.

        • Well there’s your answer. Convert homes offices warehouses everything in fact to self generation with supplemental from coal, gas, wind, hydro for industry.

  • “The cost for protecting the entire grid is placed at about the cost for one B-1 Stealth Bomber. Yet, as a nation, we have done nothing. This is inexplicable and inexcusable”…That is the plan, do nothing, check Georgia GuideStone.

  • The Negro sodomite and Demoncraps ARE COMMUNIST Dave. They are in power and setting America up for destruction. They take GREAT delight in doing so, I might add.

    In fact, the Negro is just GIDDY about it. No one is stopping him. NO ONE! Hillary thinks the same thing will happen to her for using her servers as a “funnel” for America’s top secrets. Except she forgot that she is white, of all things.

    I just don’t understand why America is standing around like a stupid cow and just watching?? Much like the British and Neville Chamberlain just before they got POUNDED by Hitler’s missiles and bombs! Except they were dumb like sheep.

    • Whats communism got to do with it? Call a spade a spade. Its Devil Worshippers, Satans masons. The Chinese are ‘Communists’ but they’re the good guys in this war. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

      The great earthquake in Revelations 20 destroys Babylon so it can be none other than Yellowstone.

      • correction Revelation 16:18-21

      • “The great earthquake in Revelations 20 destroys Babylon so it can be none other than Yellowstone.”

        Assuming that America is Babylon of course.

        But that’s a lot of assumption.

        Is America Babylon? Is America Mystery Babylon?

        Or is America the DAUGHTER of Babylon?

        You should go back and get that one squared out because if you’re arguing that America is Mystery Babylon, you’re argument won’t get very far. Mystery Babylon isn’t one nation. Mystery Babylon is the way of the Seven Kingdoms.

        • revelations 16;- It is obvious that Babylon is a single place.

          Rev.17:

          [7] And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
          [8] The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
          [9] And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

          No America Inc is mystery Babylon. The seven heads are the seven english speaking nations minus south Africa which has aligned with Russia and china and its place is taken by the EU. the ten horns are the ten major countries of the EU. Israel is the beast11] And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

        • the USA’s own Navy has maps of Americas future showing it split in three, just as revelations predicts will happen to the great city ie babylon.

          Many seers and prophets have predicted that america will split in three, including edgar cayce.

        • And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

          Revelations 6: 15

          sound familiar?

          why does it say “every free man” because most are slaves to the system.

          • “revelations 16;- It is obvious that Babylon is a single place.”

            No it’s not. And if my last post wasn’t any indicator that I would be demanding specifics on your interpretation and differentiation of “Babylon”, the DAUGHTER of Babylon”, and “Mystery Babylon”, then let this be. Mind you, I’ve read a few books on the subject – actually, just about every book on the subject up until Woodward’s “The Final Babylon”.

            First you jumped to Revelation 17, as would anybody advocating for this position.

            Revelation 17: 7: “And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the SEVEN HEADS and ten horns.”

            What are the “seven heads”?

            Skip ahead to verse 9:

            Revelation 17: 9: “And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The SEVEN HEADS are SEVEN MOUNTAINS, on which the woman sitteth.

            The “seven heads” are “seven mountains”, clearly.

            But who is the woman? Verse 5 tells says, “And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.”

            Did you catch that last word? In case you didn’t, here it is again, “EARTH”.

            Revelation 17:10: “And there are SEVEN KINGS: , and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”

            Do you imagine the one who “is not yet come”, to be the ruler of a nation? Or the ruler of earth?

            Will he bring a “city” with him? Or will he bring a “system” with him – a Nimrod-ian system? Mystery Babylon isn’t a company. It isn’t a country, either. It is the WAY of the seven nations. It’s the WAY of the seven kings and it’s the WAY of the one who “is not yet come”. If you believe Israel to be the Beast, then think of Mystery Babylon as the BEAST SYSTEM (Talmud, Kabbalah, etc.).

            You said, “The seven heads are the seven english speaking nations minus south Africa which has aligned with Russia and china and its place is taken by the EU. the ten horns are the ten major countries of the EU. Israel is the beast”

            Know-it-alls never know it all. That just looks like fanatical speculation and/or “Catholic prophecy”. Care to show me how you got to the conclusion by reading the unambiguous words coming straight from Revelation? (Hint: I’m not interested in your links or Catholic prophecies. I’m interested in what the Bible says.)

            So what about this Yellowstone business?

            Isaiah 2:19-21: “And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to SHAKE TERRIBLY THE EARTH. In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made [each one] for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to SHAKE TERRIBLY THE EARTH.”

            Isaiah 24:20: “The EARTH SHALL REEL to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.”

            Revelation 6:12-17: “And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?”

            Revelation 16:18-20: “And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the NATIONS FELL: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And EVERY ISLAND FLED AWAY, and the mountains were not found.”

            Do any of these verses suggest an earthquake that will rock a nation? Or do they suggest an earthquake that will rock the earth? .I still haven’t discounted the possibility of the DAUGHTER of Babylon having some kind of a role here and neither one of us can predict the kind of damage Yellowstone would produce.

            You can argue that the last one is talking about America but an analysis of symbolism and metaphor will show otherwise, if the great wealth of information hasn’t done so already. We’re talking about an EARTHLY kingdom and an Earthly earthquake. There’s no such thing as “America Inc.”. That’s you creating a theory to support your beliefs, all while adding to the word, and your forceful efforts to acknowledge the EU, BRICS, and Israel by adding them in to your equation contradicts this “America Inc. theory”.

            But here’s this for you to think about if you do some searching yourself:

            Proverbs 25:28: “He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.”

            “the USA’s own Navy has maps of Americas future showing it split in three, just as revelations predicts will happen to the great city ie babylon.”

            And the UN has a map where every country looks just fine. So what? I don’t doubt that America will get hers, and it could be very much alike to the descriptions in Revelation, because I do believe America is being referenced in the Bible elsewhere as the DAUGHTER of Babylon – one foreshadows the other. But that’s beside the point. Are we discussing the Bible, or are we discussing maps? But again, you’ll have to be more specific about which Babylon you refer to.

            “sound familiar (in regards to Rev 16:5) ? why does it say “every free man” because most are slaves to the system.”

            Yes. It does sound familiar. It sounds a lot like all the other verses I posted about a great earthquake that shakes the EARTH. Most are slaves to the system, the EARTHLY system, the way of the seven nations – not just America.

          • You’ve added nothing to the discussion with your nonsense and are confusing references to wormwood with the great earthquake. You know nothing. Believe whatever you want. It makes no difference to anyone else. People who know God know those whom he sends. thats all that counts.

          • That’s a lazy and flippant rebuttal, yogensha.

            Do as you will.

          • “Do as you will” may be your (satanic) philosophy. Its not mine.
            You live in Babylon and have the habits of Babylon and refuse to even believe that when it is pointed out to you which if you did it may cause a change and you would humble yourself before God. In the wrath of God Babylon is completely destroyed. To be saved we must humble ourselves before God, acknowledge our sinfulness, we are all sinners, and repent.

            “Come out of her my people and partake not of her sins.”
            This is where you confuse “system” with environment.

          • quote “Do as you will.”

            My guess would be flail in front of a gilded wooden image of the queen of Heaven.

            “She flies strange wings
            Behind a thin disguise
            She flies strange wings
            Still tears she cries”

            ~ Strange Wings

          • Flail yourself – all you people have satanic names

          • “Behind a thin disguise”

            Read that line again yogensha.

            The disguise is so thin = no clothes.

            Even a child could see it.

            Odd you can’t see your own mothers nakedness?

          • Go back to hell satan.

          • “all you people have satanic names”

            You wouldn’t know Satanic if it were hanging around your neck.

            “Go back to hell satan.”

            Your attitude is certainly no indicator of good judgment so I’ll excuse this callow little outburst of yours as a defense mechanism to having your beliefs challenged. This type of response is common coming from among the Catholics here, and the Pharisees.org’s, so it really came as no surprise.

            We aren’t that far off the mark and if you could hold your composure and talk to me like a gentleman, we could find some common ground to help our understanding.

          • What, so you’re Gus Fung now?

            Pick a monica and stick with it.

            Personally I prefer your chequered coat and pipe smoking avatar as well. :lol:

          • “What, so you’re Gus Fung now?”

            No. But nice try.

            “Pick a monica and stick with it. Personally I prefer your chequered coat and pipe smoking avatar as well.”

            I haven’t picked a “monica” but I have chosen to stick with one account. This one. If you think you’re being clever with that second bit, it should be no secret that I used to Omega Files. I do not deny it. I even use the same avatar. :wink:

          • The Gas Fart Fungus must have up and died but you associate with him completely. thats no basis for discussion.

            You must acknowledge that it was the Mother of God’s fiat

            “Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to your word.” which brought us the word made flesh

            and that this derived entirely from her free will or there is no basis fore discussion.

            I realize you are young and have spiritual issues whose root cause appears derived either directly or indirectly from masonry, i cannot be sure but these need to be addressed..

          • “you are young and have spiritual issues”

            …coming from the one who changes “Gus Fung” in to “Gas Fart Fungus”…

            You’re too funny, yogensha. Your Catholic righteousness is most impressing :roll:

          • close enough

          • yogensha quote “The Gas Fart Fungus”

            I hope you like the taste

          • fungus dead or alive induces a similar magnitude of aquired resistance.

          • discussion you have when not having a discussion. scan that :roll:

  • Perhaps they’re worms?

  • There are many reasons to hide underground – hide through a plague, a nuclear war, a pole shift…
    If elites are preparing to hide in underground bunkers it could even be – to be prepared in general, against no specific threat. No evidence I know of that US responsible for explosion in China.
    But I do expect a series of crisis and catastrophes, culminating in a pole shift:

      The Truth About Pole Shifts – FATE Magazine

      Third Secret of Fatima – Prophecy of a Pole Shift

      End Times and 2019

      Antichrist 2016-2019: Mystery Babylon, Barack Obama & the Islamic Caliphate

  • You say with conviction the U.S. had something to do with the explosion. Where’s the proof? I know there are coincidences with China devaluing their$$ and such, but it seems like a false flag event is trying to be manipulated. Although i wouldn’t put it past the U.S. government to pull something like this. It just seems too obvious. :eek:

  • The reason the “elite” are preparing to hide in subterranean bunkers is because they fear the wrath of God. And they should. But since hiding from the wrath of God is an exercise in futility, it makes more sense to make peace with God rather than insult Him further by thinking He can be hidden from.

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