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Nine Years’ Hard Scientific Evidence Disproving Government’s 9/11 Theory And People Are Still Either Completely Oblivious To It Or In Denial! (Same Thing…)

Sunday, December 18, 2011 17:06
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  • The most devastating experience – trying to convince someone who ist stuck in denial…

    I sat on my neighbors´ couch in TX the morning it happened and said then and there that this was more of a hollywood-production and could never have been pulled off by some arab or muslim terrorist-group! That Bush was probably a much more likely suspect than this bearded guy in the cave.

    ..about 8 years later some generally reasonable and open-minded guy in a park in Germany felt the need to physically intimidate and attack me for not believing the “official fairy-tale”….

    Incredible!

  • OMFG, My government is actually corrupt! that can’t be true.. after all, our history shows that governments and kings/queens/leaders were always good people who were elected by us and they’ve always done what the people wanted.. right? WAKE UP YOU PATHETIC USELESS GARBAGE BAGS.

  • It’s heartening to see that at least some psychiatrists and psychologists practice what they preach. Anybody with a scintilla of learning and culture HAS GOT TO KNOW that 9-11 was an inside job. It is the very job of the psychological sciences to figure out aberrations precisely of the kind that occurred on 9-11 and cure these kind of perps of the afflictions that cause such monstrously evil behaviors. The people in this field are the creme-de-la-creme of the sciences of human beingness, ranging all the way from the best and most proper human behaviors, to and including the gravest bestial and darkest kinds.

    I would not expect to see any psychiatrist clueless about the real facts of 9-11 as contrasted with the official conjured “facts.” If any psychiatrists are playing the “official tale” game, they are not real psychiatrists. I will not posit that real psychiatrists don’t know reality any better than that. Isn’t this point obvious?

    Sorry to break the news, folks, but your highest elements of government has criminally, treasonously conspired to commit, and then did commit public crimes on 9-11 that are too egregious to document in fullest extent. It is possibly the most monstrous single official state treason of all time. Because it is such a stark contrast ‘twixt my enemies and me, however, I have to say I am ecstatic. I mean, isn’t it better knowing the truth about the most rotted foundations of one’s government, than letting it go on consuming itself and everything around it without even a glance in that direction? I may not be able to stop it with my obstinance in the face of it, but I surely as hell will not be a part of it with my silence.

  • September 5 2001 from Prophecies.org

    My judgement is falling upon a greedy people. My judgement is falling up an errant and haughty people. Yea, my judgement is falling upon a rebellious people; so be forewarned!

    I am about to hit the finances of the USA. I am about to hit the factories and I am about hit the farms. I am going to cripple the economy of this land in a great way; and woe to the greedy. Woe to the proud and to the stiff-necked. Woe to the tale bearers and to the false accuses. For, this day the rod of judgement falls on the stock market. This day, the rod of judgement falls on the congress of the USA, a gathering of many whores. This day, my judgement falls upon the trucking industry of the USA; for I shall cause a traffic jam of trucks to push and pull at one another the length of this land. I shall cause trains to stop for weeks and I shall cause airplanes to fall unexpectedly from the sky.

    September 11th 2001 Prophecies.org

    “God’s Judgement is Falling”

    “My Beloved Child, I am your Father in Heaven, yea Jehovah Most High God. Proceed to write, even as I say, that the people might receive from Me. Behold the number eleven, which is given at the top of this prophecy, yea the number, which is cherished in the occult practices of the Luciferians. Yes, My Child, place this prophecy ahead of the last prophecy on “A Message for You” that the people may read, that those with the eyes to see may see, that those with the ears to hear may hear! For, these two prophecies are related!

    “Yea, in My words below, wherein I told you to take the rod to the stock market and to the congress of the USA, I wanted you to see and know in advance that I am judging the finances of this land! I am judging the leadership of this land! The devil and his hoards know that I put the power in the rod, which is in your hand; and they know that I have orchestrated this judgement on this soil, which has been carried out by the very Luciferians, who carried out the Oklahoma bombing. These are the very same ones, who carried out the bombings of the embassies in Africa. Yea, these are the very same ones, namely the Rockefeller whores and their allies, who no longer count the USA as worthy to survive; for they are hell-bent towards the New World Order. But, remember, My Child, that I allow the New World Order to rise for a season, all to test and try, to humble My Faithful, and to make them ready for their heavenly rewards. Yea, I allow the old system to crumble and fall; for I am bringing into the Earth a new system through My Son. Yea, I am tearing down the old, the rotten and the putrid; for I am bringing in My glory. Yea, I warn all to take note, to observe what has happened today! I warn all , who trust in the riches and the fat of this land to behold; for what you see today is meant for the whole of this land! Yea, I warn each of you to get your spiritual houses in order and to get ready for the Coming of My Son; for He will come when you expect it least. Truly, here and there, one or two will be taken and the rest will be left standing. Yea, a grave warning is going out across this land to all, who trust in their riches, or in their self-sufficiency to sustain them! I tell you now that today many souls went to hell! Today, they cry out in anguish from the bowels of hell for water! They cry out for forgiveness, but it is too late! They cry out for another chance; but it is too late. They have missed the Marriage Supper of the Lamb! They have missed their heavenly inheritance because they trusted in the arm of the flesh. Yea, this day the bowels of hell opened up and took many; but few, very few made their way into Heaven. I tell you now that you do not know how long you have! Today could be your last day! Did those, who died today, think that it would be their last? Nay! They did not! For, even unto the end many partied! Many loved the world and what was in it and at their death, the Lord of this dark world, the devil, himself, was ready to claim his prey.

  • People will believe what they want to believe, and for them to admit they are wrong after years of believing is too much for them. Even after so much evidence that it was really an ATTACK on the US, and hardly a shred of evidence to prove otherwise, those basement dwelling conspiracy theorist will never see it. Maybe they cannot believe such an attack could take place by some “weak” terrorist group. Maybe they so badly want to see our government more corrupt then is already is. Maybe they want to think “oh I know what really happened, I’m smart. The rest of you that think it wasn’t an inside job, well you’re dumb.” Its a power thing to them, thinking they have an edge over the everyone else. Morons.

  • Anon, you write: “Even after so much evidence that it was really an ATTACK on the US, and hardly a shred of evidence to prove otherwise…”

    Where is all that “so much evidence” located? And that “massive dearth” of evidence to the contrary? Where may I locate that? Ha, ha, ha.

    Do you realize you just sinned? You admitted that the government is corrupt enough as it is. Gee, how can you accept your own private level of corruption, but not the actual level?

  • “Anybody with a scintilla of learning and culture HAS GOT TO KNOW that 9-11 was an inside job.”

    Not really. There’s zero evidence to suggest that.

  • Well, here’s some physics and math evidence to throw onto the huge pile of other evidence that is being covered-up fella.

    The Physical Law of Conservation of Momentum must be considered when quantifying the collapse event of those buildings (surprise folks, the “govt” “didnt bother” to quantify the collapse events, even though it was required to do so, BY LAW).

    When the Conservation of Momentum is finally considered, (and it MUST be considered, even post 9-11 folks), what We the People learn is that WTC 1 and 2 couldn’t have fallen any faster. We ALL saw those buildings fall at thier intrinsic free-fall velocities.

    What THIS means is: According to the Law of Conservation of Momentum, The Buildings Columns Provided As Close To ZERO Resistance As One Can Imagine.

    So, what we have learned here today is this:

    FACT: The “govt” “didnt bother” to provide a numerical representation of the Collapse Event though required, BY LAW, to do so.
    FACT: The “govt” “didnt bother” to explain why buildings 1 and 2 fell at their intrinsic free-fall velocities.
    FACT: The “govt” simply Ignored the Law of Conservation of Momentum ALTOGETHER in its “explaination” of What Really Happened on 9-11.

    Does the “govts” definition of forensic analysis of those collapses seem good enough for the American People, to you?

    Id “expect” that you would agree that the above are very good examples of evidence contradicting the official fairytale.

    Peace, Truth, Justice, Freedom and Prosperity for US all, in-spite of those who would have it otherwise.

  • Yikes!..didnt mean to post it that many times..lol, aww well, the Controlled Main Stream Media spews Its version of events in sets 3 so…lol
    Peace

  • “What THIS means is: According to the Law of Conservation of Momentum, The Buildings Columns Provided As Close To ZERO Resistance As One Can Imagine.”

    What peer reviewed engineering journal found this? This is an astounding claim and must be in the scientific literature. No?

  • I have seen this video post before…It is extreemly on message. The search for Truth–the fear of truth—helplessness in the face of the silence of truth – all those things still exist all these years since the twin tower event. The web chatter vibrates with residual trauma. This new military spending bill with the section1032 thrown in, indicating increasing pressures from the terrorism fear has brought a tsunami response.

    A couple of months ago, I woke up from a deep sleep hearing myself thinking in a shout, “Where are the planes!” Over and over again the question repeated itself. I had not during the previous months dealt with anything regarding 9/11 so that was the last thing I thought of as I went through the process of trying to figure out what the heck was going on in my mind.

    As I drank my coffee sitting here at the computer, the first thing up on the yahoo page was a small article talking about some subject related to 9/11. I clicked on it..a the moment I have no idea what the article was refering to..but, some how, that day I found myself following linked articles on that subject. I became facinated. That evening, I suddenly had a replay of a photo I had seen of the Pentegon explosion…I did not remember a plane.

    That started the almost frantic search for the plane parts that should have been all over the place in front of the damaged area of the Pentagon…Over the following months I followed that never ending trail of videos one can find on utube..hypnotized..

    Today, I am convinced that 9/11 was not at all what we were told it was..and more I have a feeling it is a key to something much darker…By this time however, I am resolute. Scary stuff this…I thank you for reposting this–it helps to have some encouragement…

  • Perhaps it was half terrorists and half inside job. My belief is that with the knowledge they had of the impending attack, they simply made it bigger than what it was going to be so the Homeland Security fraud could be passed. Of course this is all speculation on my part so don’t come at me like a spider monkey wanting facts because there are none to be found.

  • -
    9/11 World Trade Center demolition & murders was ABSOLUTELY an “Inside Job”!
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    There is no evidence of any “Terrorists” having boarded the Planes.
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    Super-thermite a/o Nano-thermite were used to ‘blow up’ those buildings, and the U.S. Government is the ONLY SOURCE for this material!
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    Proper protection procedures for ALL EVIDENCE where Murder and Mayhem occur was totally ignored and not done!
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    Instead of immediately proceeding to investigate every possible means and source of this horrible fiasco the eventual investigation only proceeded after outcries from many of the murdered victims survivors demanded it. The 9/11 Official Investigation commenced 1 Year and 2 Months AFTER the Slaughter of thousands of innocent people, and ‘Explosive’ Demolitions that caused the Destruction of the World Trade Center!
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    For factual information and evidence of an ‘Inside Job” see (Google)”9/11 Truth”, and read “9/11 The Simple Facts” available
    from Amazon!
    The FACTS DO NOT LIE! THE GOVERN DOES AND HAS ABOUT 9/11!
    -

  • “Super-thermite a/o Nano-thermite were used to ‘blow up’ those buildings, and the U.S. Government is the ONLY SOURCE for this material!”

    What peer reviewed study in a chemistry/engineering/physics journal ever found that? That’s a pretty amazing claim. There are dozens of high profile journals that would love to publish that study.

  • I downloaded a new book from Amazon.com titled: ZTINGAR. Apart from being one of the most informative books I’ve ever read in matters to do with life, why we’re here, where we came from and to where we’re probably heading, UFOs, NDEs, 2012 etc. It also contains an extraordinary, inarguable and logical explanation to what people call God, which is nothing like the church teaches and very different to what one would expect. I strongly recommend it…

  • Refreshing posting. These psychologists do not go to the heart of the matter, though, which is the 9/11 censorship.

    Just like the top-notch chief engineers of the twin towers’ demolition would not have taken the job without prior guarantees of a cover-up, the hundreds of top-level U.S. officials who provided this very thin “Osama bin Laden’s fanatics did it all with their airplanes” cover without prior guarantees that it would be censored.

    And censored it was! The twin towers’ controlled demolitions are evident to someone who looks at the videos with the verbal “explanations” turned off. A large number of leaders who claim to oppose 9/11-induced policies should but did not raise the alarm: liberal leaders, socialist leaders, union leaders, peace leaders, Muslim leaders, individual rights leaders, etc. Their remarkably homogeneous effort to peddle the official myth is the real 9/11 problem.

    In final analysis, the average skeptic is reluctant to face 9/11 because (s)he unconsciously understands very well that (s)he will have to mistrust her/his favorite anti-neocon leaders. And 9/11 Truth’s enemies are less Bush and Obama than their opponents, whose opposition is little more than a Platonic act that distracts the public from their sinister alliance on 9/11 and the nefarious policies it engendered.

    More info on http://www.global-Platonic-theater.com.

    Love,

  • Well, ok, everybody…..why did WTC7 fall….one government official said it was from the ‘shockwaves’ from WTC1 and 2….and if you believe that, LOL.

    As for concrete evidence on why 9/11 was an inside job, please go to A&E911truth.org. These are very reputable architects and engineers who want the truth brought out because they know what we were told is not PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE AS the powers that be say.

    These are highly educated people from all over the world who have joined the cause to bring the truth out in the open. See these professional men & women cite scientific evidence….then tell me how to dispute them.

    Thank you.

  • a child could see 9/11 was professional demolition. you have to be seriously “educated” to miss that. and Mark Brander is thrilled like a kid on Christmas morning that the judgment of jehovah is about to fall. yeah, it will fall where it always falls. on the poor and the working people.

  • @boffomet

    A child can see imaginary friends. What’s your point?

  • Much of what he says makes sense (However same can be applied to the gatekepping press and our lying gov’t)

    They are subject to their own rules of pychosis, illusions of grandure, paranoia, persecution complex, Stockholm syndrome, cognitive disonance, double think, group think, paradigm gatekeeping, Acom’s Razor.

    It all can easily be used to tear apart the official 9/11 myth as well. It’s a matter of trusting NIST case closed or independent researchers & whistleblowers calling for independent investigation.

  • “It’s a matter of trusting NIST case closed or independent researchers & whistleblowers calling for independent investigation.”

    You missed the third option. It’s also a matter of trusting the peer reviewed literature of dozens of academic journals around the world that have studied this and, oddly, found nothing to indicate the towers were brought down by 2 planes smacking into buildings. I doubt these fiercely independent scientist could all so be easily swayed by the conspiracy.

    But oddly those people who think they’ve found evidence never submit their research to peer reviewed scientific journals. They post it on youtube. Odd that.

  • Sorry that should read:

    “found nothing to indicate the towers were brought down by anything OTHER THAN 2 planes smacking into buildings. “

  • Osama Bin Laden was a CIA agent. It was a terrorist attack, but the CIA and Mossad orchestrated the whole thing. Whether or not the buildings had explosives is a moot point.

  • “Osama Bin Laden was a CIA agent. It was a terrorist attack, but the CIA and Mossad orchestrated the whole thing. Whether or not the buildings had explosives is a moot point.”

    In your opinion.

  • In a prophecy of the last 12 presidents, each Bush represents the number 9 and 11…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WelQ_j2SGU

  • Everyone and I mean everyone, needs to watch Zero: An investigation into 9/11. It does not point fingers, it does try to answer who, what, how and why about 9/11. It simply says where is the forensic evidence, where is the proof? I recommend it for all skeptics, scoffers, 9/11 Deniers and 9/11 Knowers.

  • Screw building 7, or nano thermite, or dancing israelis….nothing says inside job more than a complete military stand down during the attacks.

  • “.nothing says inside job more than a complete military stand down during the attacks.”

    Where is there evidence there was such a stand down? Wouldn’t that be really unusual and pretty hard to hide and justify? Are the conspiracy plotters that obvious?

  • Ztingar is one of the few books in the world that makes you actually stupider after reading. Don’t waste your $10.

  • Only 2 planes were sent to intercept the 2 planes hitting the WTC. They arrived too late. They had been scrambled from MAINE….a military decision that makes you say “what?!?”

    No other hijacked planes were intercepted during the full 3.5 hour attack. We had a complete military stand down.

    In contrast, a year prior, Payne Stewart went out of communication in his private jet and had two F-15′s escorting his plane within 15 minutes. We had ZERO, I repeat ZERO planes intercepted during the attack. At least according to the official story.

    The only 3 we know about in the official story were the 2 interceptors from Maine that were 15 minutes late to NY and the “unmarked” plane flown by “Lucky” Penney in PA that was supposedly unarmed and did not shoot Flight 93 down. Officially that is.

  • @MindMe:

    I’ve read your tired arguments so many times that I recognize you even though you have changed names. What kind of wages do we taxpayers pay you Pentagon trolls, anyway? How much are you making. Do you note that commenters here are quite ignoring you? It’s because your arguments are so tired that they are meaningless, and everybody recognizes you as Pentagon trolls even though you change your screen names from time to time.

    Simply changing your screen name doesn’t cut it. You need to vary your tired old arguments and present some hard facts of your own (if your bosses allow it, that is) that prove airplanes disappear when they hit Pentagons, office fires have never in history caused ANY highrise office buildings to collapse as though professionally demolished, but that they WERE able to do so this ONE time in history, and that when an airplane crashed into the ground head on at Shanksville, the airplane DID this one time in history disappear without leaving a trace other than a smoking hole in the ground.

    The Pentagon team ought to get together and clear up these kinds of questions, then give you trolls your pre-written, stock comments of the kind you are using, so that you can hit your button and flood all these comments sections in just the right places with your “proofs” that all these miracles did happen on that one day just that one time. I am really, really disappointed that the Pentagon can’t do better than you trolls are disseminating. When I was in the Army in the late 50′s it was a much smarter Army than it is today. I was an intel spec when intel meant intel.

  • If you need proof about thermite in the buildings or that it was an inside job then you obviously are in the wrong place to be commenting here. There is literally tons of evidence given in testimony by multiple professionals and there have been dual studies done from separate independent samples acquired from ground zero. These materials were found to contain Super-thermite, which is used only in controlled demolition and is made by two companies here in the united states.This information was passed along by a few studies, all have been conducted by PhD’s in physics and chemistry. Say what you will about this but THEY DON’T HAND YOU A PhD YOU EARN IT! The world trade center towers were built to withstand many things, including holding 5 times their total weight load. As far as the stand down militarily. It is admitted openly by our own government officials that on the day of the attacks all over the country “war games” were being conducted by the military. These are of course routine and in no way suggest involvement, but do explain the lack of response. There is said to be testimony from a white house aid present in the protective bunker with VP cheney, as he , by the chain of command was the commander in chief in the absence of the currently sitting president, he ordered a stand down of NORAD. There are testimonies never released from air traffic controllers that have attested to this fact. Back to the towers controversy. You have eyewitness accounts from people ON SITE, that means there. you weren’t there, and they were…. they were offered money to remain quiet. The fire fighters aren’t going to lie about hearing explosions, the janitor isn’t going to lie about the building shaking and hearing explosions. the tiles on the wall in the lobbies and the windows on the ground floors wouldn’t have blown out if the impact occurred that high from the ground. The amount of evidence you’re requiring for your convincing is at your finger tips. Many people out there are awake to these facts and many other “false flag” attacks that have happened. it was even admitted that the gulf of Tonkin was a lie, just for reference and that resulted n a war that killed, 58,0000 Americans or more. The pentagon….why is there no plane wreckage, no luggage, 12 ton engines, no marks on the lawn of the pentagon, a circular hole that is visible in FBI photos prior to the roof collapse. There is also the fact that in the pictures of the impact crater in the wall of the pentagon there is a book sitting with pages open and unburned sitting next to the opening of the innermost wall. That is precision. The nose piece of the place is made of aluminum and would not penetrate a steel reinforced concrete wall. Another notable fact is that the area of the pentagon that was hit, the only part damaged, was a financial branch of the building which the day before the attacks reported by Rumsfeld himself in an address states ” There is $2.3 TRILLION WITH A T that has been misplaced by the Pentagon. and calls it a matter of life and death. The next day the exact office responsible for this loss is hit by a “plane” it was a missle!(and you can youtube, google or whatever this video). search DONALD RUMSFELD SEPT 10th 2001. most people don’t even remember it. There is an entire movement called pilots for 9/11 truth that as operators of planes that are more experienced and knowledgeable about aircraft than you could dream of and have flown a multitude of mission on simulators trying to recreate the maneuvers claimed to have been performed by the plane that hit the pentagon. IT CAN’T BE DONE! the operating speed was exceeded by more than 100 MPH. The pilots stated that the man alleged to have been flying this plane could not successfully fly or land a Cessna, which is hugely different in controls, size and difficulty of maneuverability than a jet airliner. SO before anyone starts questioning if 9/11 was an inside job, go read up on the builings the aftermath of the buildings, the fact that cell phone calls can’t be made above 5000 ft (a tested fact) and the american airlines records that show all on board seatback phones were removed in 1995.

  • A conspiracy is called a conspiracy for a reason; simply because it cannot be called fact. It all started with a video some guy made from his basement (you know the one that clamed the holes punched in the pentagon did not match the size of the aircraft) that didn’t prove anything excpet that a video with some emotional music and good editing can make anyone believe anything. I can guarantee had that original video not been posted this conspircay would have never blown up this far. And not its too late. Even with all the hard evidence, and magazines like Popluar Science proving the conspircay’s wrong they will never see the truth. The US was attacked for the second time in history, and many people died that day.

  • “If you need proof about thermite in the buildings or that it was an inside job then you obviously are in the wrong place to be commenting here. ”

    So where is the peer reviewed literature on the thermite?

    “I’ve read your tired arguments so many times that I recognize you even though you have changed names.”

    Yes funny how rational people all seem to sound the same. “Hey, interesting claim but where is the peer reviewed evidence on this?” Instead of pointing it out (it if even exists), you only have some weird conspiracy. “Anyone who asks for actual evidence must be a military industrial complex troll!”

    Silly.

  • Thats another giant WTF?! over 9/11. The Pentagon is the most secure military building in the world and we only got 4 low resolution frames from a parking lot camera? There are hundreds of surveillance videos from businesses near the pentagon that had their video security tapes taken into custody and not released to the public.

    Then there’s the insider trading, people made millions shorting stock on the affected airlines and nobody was prosecuted. The identities of the people involved in the insider trading have been classified. This is huge because only someone who knows something is going to happen could have possibly benefitted from short orders placed the day before the attack.

    Quite simply: the math does not add up on the official story.

  • The time it took for those top down, floor by floor collapses we all saw is actually described very well by applying The Law of Conservation of Momentum to the buildings mass.

    Open to the middle of any Halliday and Resnick physics book. Read the chapter on Systems of Particles and do the simple math yourself folks. When you do, you will start to see why the “govt” NEVER QUANTIFIED THE COLLAPSE EVENT, EVEN THOUGH REQUIRED BY LAW TO DO SO.
    (hey, you dont have to take my experienced word for it either, read what the Phd in Physics Dr. Steven Jones has to say about NISTS forensic “analysis” of those collapses too, What? You say youve never heard the Main Stream Media talk about his peer reviewed, Formal Request for Correction of NISTS, publically funded, forensic “analysis” of those collapses? lol)

    This Physical Law of Nature called the Conservation of Momentum, has been common knowledge for centuries. And its EASILY applied to those collapses and in fact would be the FIRST thing a person would do when charged with quantifying a buildings collapse…

    ummm, unless you work for the US “govt” i suppose…then you’d be pressed to come up with another one of those amazing “magic bullets” that only works because it covers their collective evil a$$e$ and ignores the truth and the LAWS OF PHYSICS altogether.

    Peace, truth, justice, freedom and prosperity, in-spite of those who would have it otherwise.

  • @MindMe:

    You write, “Where is there evidence there was such a stand down? Wouldn’t that be really unusual and pretty hard to hide and justify? Are the conspiracy plotters that obvious?”

    Answer to first question: everywhere. Just do your own Internet search. If others did your search for you, you could simply negate it all with the very same statement above.

    Answer to the last two questions: yes and yes.

    To the first “yes,” the incompetent manner in which
    the 9-11 criminals covered their tracks (they should have consulted smarter criminals than themselves on this issue, as some do exist) rendered the crimes so difficult (read impossible) to justify that it has not been done yet. It is why the whole world, top to bottom, is still kicking, screaming, hollering and fighting at the pabulum in your spoon that you are trying to force down gullets.

    Let me counter your position that so many millions of “mere,
    ordinary people” (such as those here, among all you elite masters of truth and reality at the Pentagon) are not competent to judge such complex matters as 9-11, with this question: are ALL the doubters in the world too stupid to intuit the truth of such a matter? If so, then your argument has just destroyed the entire judicial concept of the jury trial, in which “plain, ordinary, everyday morons” exactly like ourselves (whose intelligence you hold in contempt in comparison to your own),
    constantly are called upon by the legal system to judge criminal matters equally and more complex than the events of
    9-11 every day of every year except Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays. If such a rule as you suggest, in your contempt of our intelligence to the very last one of us, could gain the traction of legality, then every criminal in every jail and prison today that had jury trials could file legally cognizable appeals to be released. It COULD NOT, IN ANY LEGAL THEORY, be
    constitutionally lawful to empanel a jury that is not competent to judge when the law has been broken in matters of any complexity above the very simplest. The principle you proffer, that we mere, ordinary citizens are all too stupid to judge the facts of 9-11, would pretty much empty out the prisons in America as soon as criminal defense lawyers ran to the touchdown
    with that football.

    As to the second “yes,” the conspiracy plotters indeed WERE just “that obvious” because of the very hubris that you exhibit every time you make such a statement as the above: that everybody but the criminals are too stupid to realize what really happened. Don’t you perps know that this is pretty much the same thing about 90% of all criminals, both in prison and out, believe about themselves and their victims? Many criminals commit crimes precisely because they think they are too smart to be detected by “ordinary citizens.”

    Talk to any prison psychiatrist/psychologist and find out. No, I won’t cite any references for you. Do your own searches and learn.

    Cynically, you wrote, “Anyone who asks for actual evidence must be a military industrial complex troll!”

    No, anybody that behaves precisely as you are behaving is a military troll. I exclude the “industrial” part of the complex because your job does not rise to that height in the equation. You are a simple military grunt the same as any private with a rifle. I doubt that you, specifically, in your job as Internet troll, interact with anybody above the rank of corporal or sergeant. And you may not even wear a uniform. The military employs civilians these days to do menial work like cleaning, sweeping, Internet trolling, and the like.

  • I have no idea why the inside job issue is still being questioned. The evidence is very clear that the 9/11 events were poorly planned and sloppily executed. We can speculate the whos and why. this operation required an enormous amount of cooperation. there surely must be some people involved that have A conscience. every person regardless of their role are guilty of mass murder and treason. That includes mainstream media. Given that all three WTC buildings were demolished with thermate,one and two had another destructive force as well. I refer you to Dr.Judy Wood’s directed energy theory. I personally think there were small nukes in the basements as well. the perps wanted these buildings gone. #7 was the operation command center. As to who and why is not difficult to figure out. Criminal charges wouldn’t be out of line for the EPA either.

  • Yes, the evidence is clear..and itd be out in the open for US if not for the controlled MSM.

    And We’d also all know that the majority of the 9-11 commission members, and their lawyers, have publicly stated that their investigation was obstructed by the bush admin AND the pentagon (to the point that they considered bringing charges against them), They said their report DOES NOT contain the truth of what really happened,

    And ALSO said the American People WILL NOT know the truth of what really happened on 9-11 WITHOUT A NEW, TRULY INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION.

    So, the moral of the story is:
    Dont do FAUX news when you really what to know what the hell is going on.

  • “Answer to first question: everywhere. Just do your own Internet search. If others did your search for you, you could simply negate it all with the very same statement above.”

    Sorry. I’m debating claims by you. Not made by others. Please support YOUR claims directly. I find nothing compelling at all in my search. Tell me what evidence you find compelling and we’ll deal with that.

    Stunning 9/11 truthers claim a wealth of evidence and all they ever supply when asked for it is hand waving.

  • arent you ignoring all of the evidence right now..

    pick up a physics book and start your search there…
    or search for what Dr Steven Jones has come up with..
    or try to find those qoutes by the 9-11 commission members i just posted…If you REALLY serious about finding out what really happened.

    just stay away from any main stream media searches…THEY ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF COVERING UP FOR THE PENTAGON… Rumsfelt TOLD US so in TV, right after 9-11…(remember that one?)..dont feel too bad, the main stream media has been doing an excellent job ignoring statements like that.

  • Again, I ask you for you to support your claims with evidence. Again, you hand wave at supposed evidence but present exactly nothing specific. Again, funny how truthers seem to think the evidence is it was an inside job is overwhelming but seem to provide none when challenged.

  • again youre ignoring whats being presented.

  • and that’s PERIOD, end of sentence and exactly why this place is going to hell. Thanks to folks who arent ready to actually HEAR the truth.

  • Nothing has been presented aside from general hand waving at the supposed volume of evidence. Could you make a specific claim and supply the specific evidence to support that claim?

  • jebus MindMe…you are a really irritating little troll, capable seemingly, of just reiterating what you said before and incapable of actually cooperating in the search for *clarity* by simply reading things that have been recommended…too lazy to search and afraid of finding proof and truth it seems to me from up here in Canada…happy to not be American, sad to say as I have a lot of American friends I now fear for daily

  • You want youtube evidence try this 2 hour video by architects and engineers:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lw-jzCfa4eQ#!

  • “actually cooperating in the search for *clarity* by simply reading things that have been recommended”

    Anonymous, I’ve never found any compelling evidence in my search. Sorry. This is why I’m asking you what specific evidence *you find compelling*. I can’t read your mind.

    Whoever posted the youtube video. Do you have published (text), peer reviewed evidence I can examine vs watching a dull 2 hour+ youtube video? Could you at least summarize the top three most powerful claims made in the video in your opinion? Randomly looking at that video, it’s just a bunch of guys making unsupported claims. For example at the 1h16m mark there’s a guy claiming you can see “squibs” going off above the impact site yet it’s not supported by actual video of what he’s talking about. I’m really not about to waste time watching a video of unbacked opinion.

  • me thinks the troll gets paid by the word.
    Sure isnt by the number of logical statements, lol

    Them guys sure are having a hard time presenting arguments for the OFFICIAL FAIRY TALE that actually make sense…to be fair though, “govt” couldnt even do it and they were required to BY LAW…lol

    The Ba$tards.

  • It would seem you are the one having a hard time presenting arguments for your claims. You’ve presented none. The original video seems to be about how people deny the obvious evidence yet when asked for it, none can be presented.

    Perhaps you have no published peer reviewed evidence, other than youtube videos that seem to lack even basic attempts to support claims made.

  • no, not really.. all that stuff you’re asking for is actually out there and has been available to the public for almost ten years …its just some people seem to lack the ability to see the gov’t BS story for what it is….(see the above video for the reason why)…and others are simply lied to by the official propaganda being spewed by the controlled media.

    Now, the few people commenting here have presented you with a starting point for your “quest” for unconditional truth…its really just up to you to DO something with it…what you’re REALLY doing is ignoring them and pretending you already know everything there is to know.

    ps…ive been a structural engineer for over 20 years. Ive done the math and physics on those collapse events myself…so has the Phd in physics I mentioned above.

    do you care to comment on ANY of the starting places i presented?…how about anyone elses?…Bet ill just hear crickets…lol!

  • man, what a nice warm breeze..the sound of crickets in the air..i love summer…oh wait, that’s just the sound of private first class troll with his tail between his legs.

    I was thinking id elaborate on all those pieces of information i posted above for the guy, you know, like REAL, NORMAL, THINKING, people would want you to do for them?…..Private, you’re on the wrong side of America and the American People if you’re still defending the official fairy tale.

    Peace, truth, justice, freedom and prosperity, in-spite of those who would have it otherwise.

  • to be fair, concise, factual and clear:

    Conservation of Momentum for US dummies:

    Imagine a mass floating through space, heading for a collision with another mass…The collision will slow the whole thing down, right? (ans. is right)

    Now Imagine that mass is the top floors of WT1$2 down here on earth, heading for a collision with EACH OF THE LOWER FLOORS.

    The physical Law of Conservation of Momentum will show US that those 94 or so collisions will slow the free fall by 1.7 seconds…low-and-behold!… exactly how they fell.

    what this means is:
    The columns, somehow, did not provide resistance to the collapse.

    What really happened is:
    The “govt” never explained why..the “govt” never even considered why..by law, “govt” was supposed to have done both.

    Should anyone think that “investigation” was “good enough” for the American people?

    Peace.

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