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We are in the Hebrew year 5996 since Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden/Paradise, only a few more years until the 6,000 year threshold is completed and the start of the 7th day of rest or SABBATH begins.
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Hisapple, I used to have a thread titled “Where are we now?”. It indicates that we are in year 5996 since Adam,only few more years approaching 6000 years threshold. I don’t have the archive,as I don’t keep the post I make. But hopefully the mod can find it and post it again.
We are in the Hebrew year 5996 since Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden/Paradise, only a few more years until the 6,000 year threshold is completed and the start of the 7th day of rest or SABBATH begins.
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Csar
JosephHow did the secular historians make a 165 year error in dating the destruction of the First Beis Hamikdash? There were 490 years between the destruction of the First (423 BCE) and the Second (70 CE or 68 CE, depending how you count) Beis Hamikdash. Yet the secular historians date the destruction of the First Beis Hamikdash to 586 BCE.
Posted 3 years ago #This is a famous question. There is no really good answer.
Some think that chazal at some point messed up the years so that we wouldn’t really know when we were hitting 6000.Posted 3 years ago #Sam2
The Even-Keeled and Erudite Shmuely Wollenberger from Las VegasIf I’m not mistaken, they say that Bayis Sheni lasted 165 years longer than we say it did.
Posted 3 years ago #While the general idea sounds good some of the details of the Seder Olam Rabbah are in error. Jewish andsecular sources point to a net compression of about 240 years by the Seder Olam Rabbah, making the traditional Jewish Year about 240 years short of the true mark. Let’s consider where those missing years are to be found.Encyclopedia Judaica states, regarding the Seder Olam: “Yose b. Halafta, the presumed author of Seder Olam Rabbah, probably had access to old traditions that also underlay the chronological computations of the Jewish Hellenistic chronographer Demetrius (3rd century BCE). The most significant confusion in Yose´s calculation is the compression of the Persian period, from the rebuilding of the Temple by Zerubbabel in 516 B.C.E. to the conquest of Persia by Alexander (331 B.C.E.) to no more than 34 years.”
At this point in time we know beyond doubt that the Persian period actually lasted 185 years from its start in 516 BCE to its end at the hand of Alexander the Great. Since Seder Olam Rabbah reckoned the Persian period to only 34 years, that means it is short in its reckoning by 151 years. That’s before we even consider any other discrepancies with actual history. And there are other discrepancies.
The Seder Olam Rabbah assigned the period of the Medes and Persians TOGETHER 52 years while assigning 34 years for the Persian period alone. That means only 18 years are assigned for the period of the Medes. Yet, today it is well established that the Mede Empire was founded in 625 BCE. That means the Medes had already ruled 109 years before the Persian Empire began in 516 BCE. [See: Judaism in the First Centuries of the Christian Era: The Age of Tannaim, Volume I, page 6, by George Foot Moore]
Now let’s do the math on that. The Medes actually ruled 109 years but the Seder Olam Rabbah allows them only 18 years. That’s another 91 years too short. Now, when we add the 91 year shortfall for the Medes to the 151 year shortfall for the Persians we get a total of 242 years missing from the Seder Olam Rabbah!
Since the Rabbinic calendar starts 6 months earlier than the Torah Calendar, an additional half year is added to the Seder Olam Rabbah as compared to the actual Torah calendar, calling for a total adjustment of 242.5 years.
Dating in Seder Olam Rabbah
Two-year difference within the Hebrew calendar
The 2nd century CE, rabbinic work Seder Olam Rabbah, which formed the basis of the era counting of the Hebrew calendar, interpreted the prophecy of seventy weeks in Daniel 9:24–27 as referring to a period of 490 years, with a “week” being interpreted as a period of seven years, which would pass between the destruction of the First and Second Temple. This is used to date the destruction of the First Temple to 423 BCE (3338 AM) – about 165 years after the current scholarly dating of the event. The discrepancy between these two dates is referred to as “missing years”.
Today, Hebrew dating places the creation of the world near the end of “Year One” AM and afterwards the first year of Adam’s life as “Year Two” AM. However, Seder Olam Rabba shows that the Hebrew dating originally counted the first year of Adam’s life as “Year Zero” AM. This may mean that the Hebrew dating has shifted in the course of history such that traditional dating of ancient events appears two years earlier than the modern Hebrew dating would be (Edgar Frank, Talmudic and Rabbinic Chronology, 1956).
Rabbinic tradition[8] says that the First Temple was destroyed in “year 3338″ AM and the Second Temple in “year 3828″ AM. If there was no calendar shift, the Common Era equivalents would be 423 BCE and 68 CE, respectively. If there was a calendar shift, the destructions would have taken place in our years 3339 and 3829 AM, or in 3340 and 3830 AM, and the Common Era equivalents would be 422 BCE and 69 CE, respectively, or 421 BCE and 70 CE.
If there was no calendar shift, the length of the missing-years period would be 163 years (586 minus 423). If there was a calendar shift, the length of the missing-years period would be 164 or 165 years.
The missing years and Daniel
A popular explanation for the missing years suggests that the Jewish sages interpreted the prophecy in Daniel 9:24–27 as meaning that there would be 490 years from the destruction of the First Temple to the destruction of the Second Temple and, working backwards from the destruction of the Second Temple (in 3828 AM), wrongly dated the destruction of the First Temple (in 3338 AM).
A variation on this argument states that the Jews deliberately altered the dating so that the true date of the “anointed one” (Mashiah) mentioned in Daniel 9:25 would be hidden. Other apologists[9] have countered with claims that the dating was indeed altered for one or another reason and should be understood as fable, not history.
These explanations come from the ambiguous meaning of the word ‘week’ in Hebrew, which means ‘a heptad’, or a group of seven. The Hebrew word for ‘week’ is used to refer to periods of seven days as well as seven years.[10] The understanding of this number as referring to 490 years can also be found in Seder Olam. Christians also interpreted these verses as years and connect them to Jesus, although Rashi’s interpretation is such that it upholds the tradition that the anointed one in question is the Persian king Cyrus.
Redating the Hebrew Kings
www.redatedkings.com/download/Redating.pdfMay 11, 2010 – C. Factors Governing the Ancient Biblical Calendar . …… history. It also yielded an interval of 221 years between Solomon’s death and the fall of Samaria, …. missing text is indicated by dots within square brackets [ ... ].
Ancient Chronology – Barry Setterfield
www.setterfield.org/scriptchron.htmOn the Jewish calendar these years ran from Tishri to Tishri, which corresponds to our Sept/Oct. These records state, … Judges Lists The 93 Missing Years!
[PDF]The Calendar of Christ and the Apostles – Christian Biblical …
www.cbcg.org/franklin/calendar_of_Christ_part2_section2.pdf
If that is the case the Tribulation should of started in June of this year.
It’s talking about the Israelites, but calling them Jews. Judaism didn’t exist until after 70 CE, it was invented by the political party called the Pharisees.
The Jews have never had a temple in Jerusalem, ever.
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do you also espouse a flat earth??
Judah is the son of Jacob
the slang term for Thomas is Tom
The slang term for Susan is Sue
The slang term for someone of the tribe of Judah is JEW…. JU DAH
The first time the term Jew is used in the WORD of GOD is in 2 Kings 16: 6
The Pekah, king of the House of Israel WAS AT WAR with the House of Judah who’s king was Ahaz.
David is a Jew and his son Solomon is a Jew, David amassed the gold and the plans, Solomon built the Temple. It was not a Jewish Temple it was God’s Temple and it was built by funds from all 12 tribes.
Not only that but there is no archaeological proof that Israel and Judah were ever united before the Israelis were destroyed in 740 BC
5776
224 years of Lisa Haven still to go. Or you could follow Shambolicks.