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Has this extremely important question concerning “your” salvation ever even entered your mind??

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Has this extremely important question concerning “your” salvation ever even entered your mind??





Christ states as FACT:   “Except ye be –converted,




Those CALLED by the Father must be — “Converted”, so what is it that must be converted ?    


Those few called by the Father before the return of Christ will not be allowed to enter into the Kingdom of heaven unless and until they have been —- CONVERTED!

Unless one is “converted” –  Jesus Christ states clearly — there can be no eternal life in God’s Kingdom.   

Conversion is  an essential part—of salvation.

To convert something means:  “cause to change in form, character, or function”

Here is that statement spoken by our soon coming KING of the Kingdom of heaven regarding what our Savior and KING states is an absolute requirement for entry into the Kingdom of Heaven.

Matthew 18

3  “And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be –converted, and become aslittle children, —- “ye shall notenter into the kingdom of heaven.

PLEASE take note – Christ never said “if you do not take me into your hearts you shall not enter into the kingdom”!

Why must those the Father calls to come out of this evil world become like little children, for what purpose, what is the point ?? 

A human Child is born knowing nothing and must be taught everything.

So Why must we become like a little child?

                Because  a  child — IS – teachable;

A child normally is eager to learn; a grown man or women “knows it all” and resist change:  a gross understatement as most adults will put up a huge fight when forced to change. The applicable term is: Hardheaded/stony heart.

Most of us by the time we become adults are locked into a mind set from which we steadfastly refuse to move. What a person has been taught by their parents and society by the time they become adults becomes very difficult and many times painful to unlearn.

Jesus Christ is stating:

Our carnal sinful “hardheaded” stony hearts  know as – human  NATURE  – filled pride, vanity, jealousy, lust and greed — must be changed (converted).  Why?

So we can become teachable like a little child and then and only then can we be taught the TRUTH of GOD.

And  “THAT”  “TRUTH of GOD” is 180 degrees in the opposite direction from what all of us have been taught since birth.

Jesus Christ came to earth to teach those His Father draws to Him:

            HIS  FATHER’s  – Holy Righteous WAY— that Perfect  WAY

Please take note:

It is the Father’s perfect WAY not His own Way that Jesus Christ came to teach His disciples. Christ did not come  to teach his own contrary doctrine!!  

Christ did not come to “FIX”, as the majority believe, what had been set in STONE from the beginning.  Christ came as our PASSOVER to remove the sentence of death each of us has earned and —— to make possible the “conversion” of our natures (hearts) so those called can follow the Father’s perfect WAY.


Jeremiah 31: 33

33  But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law (Torah) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts (natures); and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Ezekiel 11

19   And I will give them one heart (nature), and I will put a new spirit (the HOLY Spirit) within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

Ezekiel 36

26  A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27  And I will put  “my”  spirit  “within you, — and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do [them].


Jeremiah and Ezekiel are both stating our Father will convert our carnal Human natures i.e. our “hearts” (Strong’s; inter man, will, mind) that we may walk (live) in God’s Statutes and Judgments and HIS LAW and that Hebrew  word law is TORAH, #8451.

The purpose of “converting our natures” — that we may willingly obey and live by our Father’s Laws, Statutes and Judgments’.

Our FATHER, — in those He calls that are WILLING, –  will remove the carnal disobedient human nature all were born with and replace it with HIS Perfect Divine HOLY Righteous LAWFUL Nature.

Unless our sins are paid for by the blood of our Savior and our carnal natures are cut away and replace with our Father’s Divine nature, Christ makes it clear — entering the Kingdom of God is impossible.

So much for simply “letting Jesus into our hearts”; what in the world does that even mean? Jesus Christ does not want your heart He wants your obedience. “Why call you ME LORD LORD and DO NOT the things I say?”

Jesus Christ did NOT come to change anything of the Father’s;  He came to make possible our CONVERSION.


   Christ did and taught came from His FATHER

In the book of John Jesus Christ confirms He only spoke, taught and DID His Father’s will.

John 17

6  I have manifested thy name (authority, character, reputation) unto the men which thou gavest meout of the world:   thine they were (they belong to the Father), and thou gavest them me; andthey” have kept thy word.

“They”, those that follow Christ,  kept the FATHERS’  WORD  NOT some “new word’” or some new law or some new way Christ supposedly taught.

Those the Father calls and gives to Christ ARE the FATHERS’, they belong to the Father they are future sons of the Father and the Father turns them over to Christ to be converted and to made Perfect in the exact image,  nature  and character of the FATHER.

7  Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are “”of thee””.   

The Father gives “the things’ of the Father to Christ.

Everything Christ did and taught came from His FATHER !

Christ did – always – HIS  FATHER’s  WILL —- never His own.

Christ did not come to change anything of His Father and yet that is exactly what the vast majority of so called christains have been taught.

8  For I have given unto them - the words which thou gavest me; and they have received [them], (“them” the words the Father gave to Christ), and have known surely that I came out from (beside) thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

Jesus Christ did and spoke – only what His Father gave to Him to do and to speak: nothing Christ taught or did was different from what the Father gave to Christ  – the Apostles KEPT the Father’s Word — period.

The Father and the Son are of the same mind the same HOLY Divine nature and are ONE in all things – they are in total agreement is all things.

If only a few could understood that FACT –— but understanding the FACT Christ came NOT to change the Plan of salvation nor anything of His Father is a gift given to only those the Father calls -  period!

Jesus Christ did not come to change His Fathers’ plan or His Law or HIS PERFECT WAY ! Jesus came to fulfill the WILL of HIS FATHER to “PERFECTION”!                                                    

Here Jesus Christ, the Apostles Peter and Paul confirm — to those the Father gave to Christ—  was delivered and taught “The Way of Truth” and that WAY is the WAY of Perfection found in the FATHER.

2  Peter 2

2  And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the “way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

The Way of the Father is not a religion nor can it be found in a denomination but is the very narrow and straight  way that few find.

Christ came to earth and lived to perfection- “THE WAY OF TRUTH” and those whom the FATHER calls to be Saints (HOLY) must also follow that SAME EXACT WAY of TRUTH as did our savior and High Priest, Jesus Christ;  striving to become perfect as our Father is perfect.


That “WAY” of TRUTH is   “PERFECT” !!!


Matthew  5

48  Be ye therefore perfect, –  even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

If, as the majority of so called Christians are taught to believe, the Law (Torah) was imperfect, actually a huge mistake and had to be abolished and replaced by Jesus Christ:

(note; one horribly deceived “teacher” even claims Christ had to come to earth to give us NEW Law because the “OLD” Law was an evil burden)

                                   THEN I ask each of “YOU”; 

How could the Father of Jesus Christ whom Jesus Christ states as FACT   “IS” PERFECT give to His Chosen People Laws — which were imperfect and a huge mistake — which Jesus Christ then lived by perfectly to perfection thus becoming our Passover and even taught His disciples they also must live by that same Law i.e. the Torah and follow the Father’s Perfect WAY — that Perfect WAY which is revealed to us by the Torah spoken to Moses by the mouth of GOD  ?

Can you logically and factually using God’s WORD  prove Christ came to deviate from the perfection of His Father by teaching a different WAY with new and different laws? 

Hebrews 6

1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ,let us go on unto perfectionnot laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Once we understand the foundational Doctrines of Jesus Christ  We must then strive, using the doctrines of Jesus Christ as our foundation, to go on into perfection and our FATHER in heaven is the Perfection we must seek and attain:

To become “Perfect”  we must following the example Jesus Christ set for us as the Father sent Christ to BE that example of PERFECTION we must follow and

To go on unto Perfection” — We must become converted thus teachable as a little child.

That is the point Christ is making in verse 3 above.

We are all born with the same carnal human nature Adam was born with and that carnal evil nature must be changed/converted before any can enter the Kingdom of God.

No unconverted person will ever be allowed into the Family of GOD.

Think about it do, you want the same problems that have existed on earth among the human kind since creation to be carried into God’s Spirit  Family, that Spirit Family in which we are to be SONS for eternity??

Pride, Lust, Greed, Hate, Jealousy, Anger, Murder etc. is   HUMAN NATURE and that naure must be cut away (circumcised away) and our Father must build in its place the Divine HOLY, Righteous, Perfect Nature of OUR Father.

 Colossians 2

10  And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

11  In whom also ye are circumcised with — the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

That body of sin is our flesh and blood human bodies filled with carnal human nature and that nature must be cut away and replaced with the Divine Nature of GOD.

Genesis 1

26  And God said,Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Does God have carnal human nature? God forbid!

God ‘began’ to make man in His image and likeness by making man in a corruptible flesh and blood body easily drawn to sin i.e. the physical man.

And now God is completing the creation of man into HIS  Spirit image by circumcising away our fleshly carnal nature and in its place building HIS Divine Holy nature.

AND at the return of Jesus Christ we will be born again by a resurrection from death, born this time with an incorruptible spirit body, the same exact spirit body as Jesus Christ i.e. the spiritual man. Phil 3: 21.

God the Father is birthing SONS into HIS Family in  HIS  DIVINE IMAGE in HIS divine LIKENESS with HIS perfect Holy Righteous divine nature.

The WORD of God is duel: first comes the physical and then the spiritual.

The physical man Adam.

The spiritual man Jesus Christ.

The physical Passover lamb

Then the Spiritual lamb, Jesus Christ.

When we are born again by the Spirit of the FATHER we will “BE”  DIVINE SPIRIT. Again read Phil. 3; 21.

Romans 2: 29

 29  But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart (nature) , in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.


Has Jesus Christ begun the ‘circumcision made without hands’ in you??

Are you following Jesus Christ  as HE follows His Father?

Have you become teachable as a little child?

Are you allowing Jesus Christ, our Master, to rule over you?

Only those being circumcised without hands, only those being converted, only those in whom the Spirit of the Father dwells can willingly obey OUR MASTER, Jesus Christ.

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  • So annoying ts when you ignore context, choosing to presume ‘teachable’ –

    3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children (paidia, Strong’s 3813), ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    4 Whosoever therefore shall HUMBLE himself as this little child (paidion, Strong’s 3813), the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

    Matthew 18

    QUESTION: When does Jesus address his apostles as children?!

    ANSWER: After their humbling response to His arrest & crucifixion, particularly Peter’s 3x denial…

    “Then Jesus saith unto them, Children (paidia, Strong’s 3813), have ye any meat? They answered him, No.” John 21:5

    :arrow: “humble in heart” Matt 11:29

    The Word translated as ‘converted’ in English means TURN, that’s it!

    Strong’s Greek: 4762. στρέφω (strephó) — 21 Occurrences

    Matthew 5:39 V-AMA-2S
    GRK: σιαγόνα σου στρέψον αὐτῷ καὶ
    NAS: cheek, turn the other
    KJV: right cheek, turn to him the other
    INT: cheek of you turn to him also

    Matthew 7:6 V-APP-NMP
    GRK: αὐτῶν καὶ στραφέντες ῥήξωσιν ὑμᾶς
    NAS: their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.
    KJV: feet, and turn again and rend you.
    INT: of them and having turned they tear to pieces you

    Matthew 9:22 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: δὲ Ἰησοῦς στραφεὶς καὶ ἰδὼν
    NAS: But Jesus turning and seeing her said,
    INT: moreover Jesus having turned and having seen

    Matthew 16:23 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: ὁ δὲ στραφεὶς εἶπεν τῷ
    NAS: But He turned and said to Peter,
    KJV: But he turned, and said unto Peter,
    INT: moreover having turned he said

    Matthew 18:3 V-ASP-2P
    GRK: ἐὰν μὴ στραφῆτε καὶ γένησθε
    NAS: to you, unless you are converted and become
    KJV: Except ye be converted, and
    INT: if not you are converted and become

    Matthew 27:3 V-AIA-3S
    GRK: κατεκρίθη μεταμεληθεὶς ἔστρεψεν τὰ τριάκοντα
    NAS: he felt remorse and returned the thirty
    INT: he was condemned having regretted [it] returned the thirty

    Luke 7:9 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: αὐτόν καὶ στραφεὶς τῷ ἀκολουθοῦντι
    NAS: He marveled at him, and turned and said
    KJV: and turned him about, and said
    INT: him and having turned to the following

    Luke 7:44 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: καὶ στραφεὶς πρὸς τὴν
    NAS: Turning toward the woman,
    KJV: And he turned to the woman,
    INT: And having turned to the

    Luke 9:55 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: στραφεὶς δὲ ἐπετίμησεν
    NAS: But He turned and rebuked
    KJV: But he turned, and rebuked them,
    INT: having turned moreover he rebuked

    Luke 10:23 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: Καὶ στραφεὶς πρὸς τοὺς
    NAS: Turning to the disciples, He said
    KJV: And he turned him unto
    INT: And having turned to the

    Luke 14:25 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: πολλοί καὶ στραφεὶς εἶπεν πρὸς
    NAS: were going along with Him; and He turned and said
    KJV: with him: and he turned, and said unto
    INT: great and having turned he said to

    Luke 22:61 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: καὶ στραφεὶς ὁ κύριος
    NAS: The Lord turned and looked at Peter.
    KJV: the Lord turned, and looked upon
    INT: And having turned the Lord

    Luke 23:28 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: στραφεὶς δὲ πρὸς
    NAS: But Jesus turning to them said,
    KJV: But Jesus turning unto them
    INT: having turned moreover to

    John 1:38 V-APP-NMS
    GRK: στραφεὶς δὲ ὁ
    NAS: And Jesus turned and saw
    KJV: Then Jesus turned, and saw
    INT: Having turned however

    John 12:40 V-ASP-3P
    GRK: καρδίᾳ καὶ στραφῶσιν καὶ ἰάσομαι
    INT: heart and be converted and I should heal

    John 20:14 V-AIP-3S
    GRK: ταῦτα εἰποῦσα ἐστράφη εἰς τὰ
    NAS: this, she turned around
    KJV: thus said, she turned herself back,
    INT: these things having said she turned back

    John 20:16 V-APP-NFS
    GRK: Ἰησοῦς Μαριάμ στραφεῖσα ἐκείνη λέγει
    NAS: to her, Mary! She turned and said
    KJV: She turned herself, and saith
    INT: Jesus Mary having turned around she says

    Acts 7:39 V-AIP-3P
    GRK: ἀπώσαντο καὶ ἐστράφησαν ἐν ταῖς
    NAS: him and in their hearts turned back to Egypt,
    KJV: hearts turned back again into
    INT: thrust [him] away and turned back in the

    Acts 7:42 V-AIA-3S
    GRK: ἔστρεψεν δὲ ὁ
    NAS: But God turned away and delivered
    KJV: Then God turned, and gave
    INT: Turned however

    Acts 13:46 V-PIM/P-1P
    GRK: ζωῆς ἰδοὺ στρεφόμεθα εἰς τὰ
    NAS: behold, we are turning to the Gentiles.
    KJV: life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
    INT: life Behold we turn to the

    Revelation 11:6 V-PNA
    GRK: τῶν ὑδάτων στρέφειν αὐτὰ εἰς
    NAS: the waters to turn them into blood,
    KJV: over waters to turn them to
    INT: the waters to turn them into

    • sharonjorgen

      Here is Strong’s definition:

      Strong’s Concordance
      strephó: to turn, i.e. to change
      Original Word: στρέφω
      Part of Speech: Verb
      Transliteration: strephó
      Phonetic Spelling: (stref’-o)
      Short Definition: I turn, am converted, change
      Definition: I turn, am converted, change, change my direction.
      HELPS Word-studies

      4762 stréphō – properly, to turn (transition); (figuratively) to convert by changing (switching) direction, i.e. go the other way (an “about-face”); taking an opposite or divergent course. 4762 (stréphō) usually has a straightforward meaning (“turn”), graphically illustrating dynamic change (transitioning). See Mt 18:3 and Jn 12:40

      I stand by what I wrote. “Convert by changing direction”

      Human nature must be removed and those the Father calls must be turned, converted, transitioned what ever — over to Divine Nature.

      Human nature is a downward direction to death and Divine nature is an upward direction to life.

      Sharon what is being circumcised without hands?

      What does God say He is doing to our natures in Jeremiah 31:33?? He is replacing it, He is changing it, He is converting it to Divine which divine nature is revealed to us by the TORAH and by the way Paul was a very learned TORAH scholar, in fact brilliant.

      And are you telling us normal adults are teachable like little kids?? Not something I have seen in my almost 77 years — ever.

      Christ came to TEACH those the FATHER CALLS the DIVINE HOLY WAY That same WAY all men hate and Sharon women also.

      Unless God humbles us to the state of a teachable little child we will remain hard headed and unteachable.

      And unless our natures are converted/changed we will never be allowed into God’s HOLY Kingdom.

      • Messiah did not praise ‘brilliant,Torah scholar Pharisees’…but warned of their doctrine

        “At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast HID THESE THINGS FROM THE WISE AND PRUDENT, and hast REVEALED THEM UNTO BABES.”

        Matt 11:25

        • But Sharon He did choose Paul as the Apostle to the Gentiles, have you noticed Paul’s letters make up a large part of the what is called the New Testament.

          most do not understand Paul as Paul is too deep for those that can just barely skim the surface of the WORD of GOD.

          Paul is in complete harmony the Word of God.

          • Jesus NEVER, EVER testified to choosing Paul, but the 12 apostles repeatedly.

            However, you and the budding Roman Catholic Church choose a Pharisee, despite the Messiah’s warning against his ‘brilliant’ doctrine.

          • so sharon the book of the Acts is also a fraud,The Book of Acts that reveals how the Ekklesia of the Father began?

            After you dump all of Paul will you also reject even Peter who calls Paul “beloved” —- “even as our beloved brother Paul”

            Sharon I want nothing to do with the church of Satan or his pope.

          • The risen Christ appeared to John (chosen by him in the flesh) with messages to the 7 ecclessia…including Ephesus who REJECTED Paul’s lying epistle, named Ephesians!

            “I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which SAY THEY ARE APOSTLES, AND ARE NOT, and hast found them LIARS” Rev 2:2

          • sharon how do you inject Paul into that scripture?

          • The book of acts is written by Pharisee Paul’s co-conspirator, Luke…another NON-APOSTLE, NEVER CHOSEN BY CHRIST, NEVER listed as an apostle, just like Mark also.

            “Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry.”
            2 Timothy 4:11

            NONE of these men walked with the word made flesh, none are eyewitnesses to His ministry.

          • “ALL OF ASIA REJECTED ME”, says Paul in 2 Timothy 1:15

            11 Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry.

            12 And Tychicus have I sent to EPHESUS.

            2 Timothy 4

            Paul is so thoroughly rebuffed by Ephesus that he doesn’t bother writing epistles to remaining ecclesia
            #2 Smyrna
            #3 Pergamos
            #4 Thyatira
            #5 Sardis
            #6 Philadelphia
            #7 Laodiceans

            But ROME WELCOMES HIM :!:

          • Sharon your new testament is getting smaller and smaller,

            Isn’t it a shame Christ does not have control over which books are included and which are not- according to you.

            Sharon if the Holy Seed of the Father has not been put in a person by the laying on of hands then that person can not understand the WORD using only human intellect

            thus we have 40,000 or more “flavors” of so called christianity conjured up by the sick evil human mind – of which your flavor is number 40,001.

          • Ts, you imply that the eternal words of life spoken by Messiah are inadequate!

            “And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of YHWH doth man live.”
            Deuteronomy 8:3

            15 YHWH thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

            18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
            19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto MY WORDS which he shall speak IN MY NAME, I will require it of him.

            Deuteronomy 18

          • Ts, you imply that the eternal words of life spoken by Messiah are inadequate!

            “And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of YHWH doth man live.”
            Deuteronomy 8:3

            15 YHWH thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

            18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
            19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto MY WORDS which he shall speak IN MY NAME, I will require it of him.

            Deuteronomy 18


          • “Sharon your new testament is getting smaller and smaller…”

            If accusers of the Apostle Paul were consistent in their thought and argumentation, each and every single Book of the New Testament would have to be discarded by them.

            They would be left with only the Old Testament.

            Then they would have a choice: Become Jews, or begin deleting Old Testament Books one by one because they supposedly know better and are smarter than the authors themselves.

            A hopelessly deluded lot, they are.

            God’s Spirit is an alien thing to them.

          • Wrong cs, the testimony of true apostles John & Matthew consistently agree in the doctrine given by the Word made flesh — THEY WERE EYEWITNESSES!

            Whereas Pharisee Paul, Luke & Mark are NEVER known as apostles during Christ’s ministry, but repeatedly contradict the truth. They are the blind following the blind, which the Ephesus ecclesia found liars.

          • A hopelessly deluded lot, they are.

            I sez.

          • In response to the claim that the apostle Peter praised Paul in an epistle: Do you really think fisherman peter wrote words like
            συσχηματιζόμενοι (syschēmatizomenoi) Strong’s 4964 with which Pharisee Paul exclusively fills his doctrine?!


          • sharon

            WOW we are faced with a huge dilemma — are we to believe in what is written in the Word of God or in what Sharon has determined SHOULD BE and SHOULD NOT BE in the Word of God???

            Wow that is a really difficult choice..

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