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ISIS update 11/25/2015..Proxy-War .. NATO v. Russia?

Wednesday, November 25, 2015 13:16
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(Before It's News)

Obama Says Russia Should Shift Focus in Syria to Beating ISIS

Obama, Erdogan discuss downing of Russian aircraft, need to de-escalate

Ankara does not want any escalation with Moscow: Erdogan

State Spox: “Turkey’s a genuine partner in destroying ISIL.” 24 Nov 2015

NATO chief says military alliance stands by key ally Turkey


Erdogan: Russian jet downed in line with “rules of engagement”

Downing of Russian jet will have serious consequences: Putin

“Turkey Is Trying To Pull NATO Into A War With Russia!”

Russia Says Turkey’s Attack On Jet Was “Planned Provocation” As Ankara Moves Tanks Near Syrian Border

With that in mind, note that on Wednesday, Sergei Lavrov (not known for holding his tongue or even for observing any semblance of diplomatic decorum) accused Ankara of conducting a pre-meditated strike. “We have serious doubts this was an unintended incident and believe this is a planned provocation,” Lavrov said, after a meeting with his Turkish counterpart Mevlut Cavusoglu. Lavrov also said he would back a plan to close the Turkish-Syrian border. “I think this is the right desicion. I hope President Hollande will tell us more about the issue tommorow. We would be ready to consider all measures that needed for this [closing the border]. By closing the border we will basically thwart the terrorist threat in Syria,” he said.

Russia also said the Syrian army (so, Iran or Hezbollah) had retrieved the second pilot who is now “alive and well.” Here’s how French ambassador Alexandre Orlov summed up the situation in an interview with Europe 1 radio: “One on board was wounded when he parachuted down and killed in a savage way on the ground by the jihadists in the area. The other managed to escape and, according to the latest information, has been picked up by the Syrian army and should be going back to the Russian air force base.”

Note the difference in the way Russia and the US describes the FSA. For the US, they are a “moderate opposition group,” for the Russians, they are “jihadists.” Considering they are allied with al-Qaeda, and judging from the gruesome videos released by the group on Tuesday, you’d be forgiven if you’re inclined to go with Moscow’s characterization.

Meanwhile, Russia is set to deploy the S-400s. “Russia also said Wednesday it would take new measures in Syria to protect its aircraft, deploying powerful S-400 anti-air missile systems, which have a range of nearly 250 miles, to Russia’s Khmeimim airbase in northwestern Syria,” WaPo reports, adding that “the airbase is located a little under 20 miles from the Turkish border, and has the potential to create headaches for Turkish and other aircraft in a U.S.-led coalition that are carrying out a separate airstrike campaign in Syria.”

Russia deploys S-400 anti-missile system to Syria to cover Latakia airbase

Cruiser Moscow never sleeps

S400 to Syria – Putin seals Syria’s Airspace – Fort Russ

Translated by Ollie Richardson for Fort Russ

25th November, 2015


Russia will transfer to Syria the S-400 air defence system. This was stated by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. The anti-aircraft missile system S-400 will be transferred to the Hmeymim air base in Syria” – Shoigu said at the board meeting of the military department of the Russian Federation.

S-400 “Triumph” is an anti-aircraft missile system which is also a large and medium-range air defense missile system of a new generation. It is designed to destroy air and space attacks. This anti-aircraft missile system can simultaneously attack up to 36 objectives, launching 72 missiles in total.

S-400 “Triumph” was put into service in April 2007.

Russia to seriously reconsider relations with Turkey: Lavrov

Will Putin use the Kurds to destabilize Turkey?

Turkmen militant group claims to have killed 2 Russian pilots of downed jet

U.S. State Department refuses to condemn killing of pilot while parachuting by “moderate” terrorists

EXCLUSIVE: Footage of Syrian Army Rescuing Second Russian Pilot and Helicopter Crew

International Military Review – Syria-Iraq Battlespace, Nov. 25, 2015

War in Syria: Latest News and Combat Footage

ISIS militants running away in panic from Grads of Syrian Army

Is Turkey Starting a Proxy-War on Behalf of NATO against Russia?

By Peter Koenig

November 25, 2015 “Information Clearing House” – Did Turkey just provoke a proxy-war on behalf of NATO against Russia? – Turkey knew very well that the Russian SU-24 fighter jet was inside Syria’s borders and that even as it may have been close to Turkey it was no threat for Turkey. Russia’s mission was clear to all the 19 nations which attended the G20 meeting some 10 days ago in Antalya, Turkey, when the entire group unanimously decided to cooperate in fighting the Islamic State (IS – or Daesh, according to its Arabic acronym).

This ‘voice in unison’ seemed to have been prompted by the Paris massacre on 13 November, which was allegedly claimed by ISIS / Daesh. – Was the agreed ‘cooperation’ to jointly fighting terrorism all hypocrisy? – An international arena to spread lies and make-believe that there is hope to eradicate the all-fearsome terrorist threat in the heart of Europe?

It might well be that Turkey got marching orders from Washington to know no mercy for Russia and Russian fighter planes. Never mind that past Turkish-Russian relations have been good. As recent as a year ago, Turkey was ready turning her back to Europe and eyed instead at joining the SCO – the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, led by China and Russia, where most Central Asian former Soviet Republics are members, and with India, Pakistan and Iran in the process of also associating with SCO.

But then again, Turkey, on the divide between Europe and Asia has historically been wavering between East and West – according to the motto, let’s see who offers the most, including recent talks by Mr. Erdogan and Madame Merkel, whereby the former offered to control the flood of refugees for a little help from a friend in the amount of three billion euros……………..

Washington needs a large-scale war. Her masters, the military industry, Wall Street, Big Oil – and not to forget AIPAC, the all-powerful Israeli lobby – ask for it. The US economy is faltering, as it always did before the onset of a major war, including the two world wars; and Israel’s ambition to become the ruler of the Middle-East is under the war criminal Netanyahu more alive than ever.

If Russia were to retaliate within Turkey’s borders, it could be construed as an aggression against a NATO country which under the rules of the Trans-Atlantic alliance is a free pass for NATO to wage war against the aggressor. Should Russia fall into this trap – which most likely Mr. Putin will not – it might be the first step towards WWIII – to be played out in the Middle-East. Whether nuclear or not, such a war would risk leaving the entire MENA (Middle-East and North Africa) region in shambles, destroy what still stands, including ancient culture dating back to the cradle of our current civilization, and most likely killing millions, and further increasing the flood of refugees to Europe.

No need to destroy Europe with bombs. Destabilization from the consequences of a MENA war would reduce Europe to a wasteland of serfs – serfs to the Great Dictator. Waiting in the wings are already the TTIP and other atrocities instigated by the Zionist led elite that directs the Washington war-machine. For example, the western dollar-based monetary assault on Europe – a forced cash-free society, banks imposing negative interest on peoples’ savings and planned bail-ins for failing banks – would leave the European populace powerless – ready to be stripped of any economic and financial assets – worse than what the troika did and continues doing to Greece ( ).

Could today’s action of impunity by Turkey be the trigger of such a war? – A conflict that would reopen all doors that Washington saw gradually closing, like the regime change in Syria, questioning the Iran Nuclear Deal, keeping all criminal sanctions in place – sanctions – we must all know – only function as long as we, the West, are at the mercy of the western dollar based fraudulent monetary system.

In the meantime the bought western media – CBC, CNN, BBC and their continental European partners – keep slandering Russia as the aggressor who deserves what happened to them; she is also the cause for the rapid spread of terrorism to the heartland of Europe – and of course, Russia’s fighting terrorism in Syria is also responsible for the flood of refugees engulfing the Old Continent, right before winter, when it is most difficult to absorb them with safe and humanitarian shelter due to lacking infrastructure. Who needs a war in Europe if propaganda induced destabilization achieves the same objective – economic and social hegemony.

If the West is successful in turning back a public opinion that has since Russia’s widely successful air raids against ISIS / DAESH in Syria rapidly turned favorably towards Russia, it would indeed bring Washington one more step closer towards what the PNAC (Plan for a New American Century) likes to call it – Full Spectrum Dominance. But Vladimir Putin, the brilliant geopolitical chess player, won’t fall for it.

Peter Koenig

Was The U.S. Involved In The Turkish Attack Against The Russian Jet?

The increased Russian air defense and the likely increase of its deployed planes will make those “safe zone” plans impossible.

But Obama, in my conclusion, still wants to drag NATO into Syria and wants to assemble enough forces “against ISIS” to be able to overwhelm the Syrian government and its Russian protectors. If that does not work he at least hopes to give Russia the Afghanistan like “quagmire” in Syria he and other U.S. officials promised. The again increasing tensions with U.S. proxy Ukraine only help in that regard.

But there is even more to that plan. Just by chance (not) the NYT op-ed pages launch a trial balloon today for the creation of a Sunni state in east Syria and west Iraq. But that (Islamic) State is already there and the “containment” strategy Obama practices towards it guarantees that it will fester.

Obama continues his immensely destructive policies in the Middle East with zero regard to the all the bad outcomes these are likely to have for the people there as well as for Europe. One again wonders if all these action follow from sheer incompetence or from some devilish, ingenious strategic planning.

Syrian Commandos Free Captive Russian Su-24 Pilot from Terrorists’ Hands

URGENT: Terrorists Fleeing Syria’s Lattakia in Hundreds after Army’s Large-Scale Operations

Russia May Use Electronic Jamming Systems to Protect Its Pilots in Syria

Putin Warns Enemy Countries, Terrorists of Russia’s Harsh Response

URGENT: Gov’t Forces Win Back More Territories in Syria’s Lattakia Province

URGENT: Syrian Forces Complete Full Control over All Areas around Kuweires Airbase

Senior MP: Turkey Troubling Dispatch of Russian Military Aid to Iraq


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