A 6000 yr old earth is laughable ignorance. I try to help people whenever I can. I am grateful for all that I have but most of all my soul .which existed before I came into this physical body and will continue to exist after my body is gone. You don’t have time to be worrying about me brother because it is YOU that has either been brainwashed or is experiencing cognitive dissonance. The personification of God is to lessen his greatness and is the leading cause of more wars than anything. Why is it that no Muslims or Indians or Arabs ever attack me on here? It is always people CLAIMING to be Christians that are the MOST judgemental self righteous and arrogant. “DROP EVERYTHING and cry out to him for mercy and forgiveness” …No need brother because I love God and I know God loves me. There is no need for me to put money in a collection plate or to confess to some man who claims he is closer to God than me because he has a degree from some university. God is meant to be loved not feared for it is through love that all things are created not fear.

That being said. I agree 100% with your idea of the flood and the life expectancy before hand. My whole comment above was about man in our ancient past having technical abilities that rival ours today..that history repeats itself in cyclical fashion like everything else and I even denied the slow uninterrupted linear progression into modern man over 6 million years. Did you even read my comment before you presumed I was fooled by the “willingly ignorant?” I still say the 6000 yr old age you give the earth is ridiculous. Especially when you say you’re willing to deny any historical and scientific data….Does this include evidence from hundreds of differnt geologists? Now I know science suppresses a lot of useful knowledge on behalf of the criminal oil and pharmaceutical corporations. Also that there have been archeological discoveries suppressed for not fitting in with the currently accepted system of belief. But I’d bet most geologists disagree with you on your 6000 year old age for the earth. No matter who is funding their research

THOTH:

This is Behold the Troll Patrol. We’ve had a long conversation before. You said:

“The reason it’s not in the bible is because the bible has been censored and rewritten by the Vatican”

This statement is simply not true. The scribes copying the various books of the Old and New Testaments did so with strict supervision and careful checking by the scribe as well as those working with them to avoid errors. Where many cultures rewarded the embellishment of stories, the Jewish writers worked in the opposite direction: the stories were never to be altered even by punctuation.

When the Catholic Church came into power, they switched Semiramis with Mary as the Queen of Heaven, associated Easter with the resurrection of Christ, turned the Roman festival of Saturnalia (December 25th) into the birthday of Christ, and adopted the practices of log burning and decorating of trees as part of the celebration of Christ’s birth. Finally, in 321 A.D., Constantine the Great issues an edict to make Sun-day the official day of worship in order to appease Christians and sun worshippers. Sunday as a day of worship links back to the ancient practice of Babylonian sun worship. Because the Catholic Church adopted many of these pagan practices with their great power and influence and infused them into the Christian religion, the multitudes believe them to be true.

From this point on, the Vatican was declared the only authority on the Bible and refused to allow the general population from owning one; they were the only ones who were allowed to tell people what the Bible actually said. In fact, there were many people who were burned at the stake for claiming Vatican error on the translation of the text.

After the original books were collected, yes they were translated into modern languages and, today, we can go back to the original Aramaic and Greek writings to compare them to the various Bible versions that are out today.

No. I started with those first two accounts but I stopped using them once I found out that everyone can see your email. So I just started over with this new account so that I could create a garbage email.

THOTH:

The very first act of deception from Lucifer came in his serpent form in the Garden of Eden when he told Adam and Eve,. ‘Ye shall be as God’.

We must remember, we were created perfectly in God’s image and likeness (what He looks like and how He acts) but the fall of sin corrupted that image. Light that was coming from Adam was not being produced from his own self, but was absorbed from God and then reemitted, very much like how things glow in the dark. The fact that DNA emits light is now a well-established fact. When Adam sinned the Holy Spirit left him and the direct connection to the light source was broken. When the serpent said, ‘ye shall be as Gods’, Adam and Eve were already like God! The light that is now emitted from living things is not coming from the ultimate light source which is God himself but presumably from the sun. After the fall, death (errors in the genetic code) entered our first parents and those errors have not only been passed to all of the descendants, but the loss of data has been increasing over time as would be consistent with data loss in the world of computers. Humanity has been suffering from an information loss in our own source code.

Jesus didn’t ‘devolve’, nor did He ‘evolve’; but, He pre-existed as YHYW Elohim. Shoutout to Beef Supreme who put it this way: “No man, woman or child, save for Messiah Himself, has ever been able to fully and perfectly keep the Law. No one can. Therefore, we needed a measure whereby something or Someone could offer an atonement for the deficit left owing WHEN WE TRY TO KEEP the Law. There it is. Messiah is there to cover the shortcoming for us; He picks up the slack wherein we have (and will) fall short of the mark of perfect observance of the Law. He pays the bill owed by us because of our sin. He left that bill nailed to the cross stamped “PAID IN FULL”. How is that the same thing as saying we are nowhere required to TRY OUR VERY BEST to keep the Law? We are not absolved from TRYING to obey each and every Precept, Statute and Ordinance of the Law. We are ordered to OBEY the Commandments brothers. We are NOWHERE told in Scripture that we are no longer beholden to the Commandments. Because we are weak, and because we are fallen, we need help in our efforts to obey. Messiah is our Help.”

I understand and agree with what you say about our DNA. Our DNA has 12 strands although most of us living now only have 3 that are active. Science in most cases call the other 9 stands “junk” haha It never ceases to amaze me how when science can’t explain something they call it “junk” or “random” This stems from the inability to admit there is something they don’t understand.
As for being made in the image of God, I believe that it is the living universe that is God. All living things are in different stages of the ONE consciousness which gives life to all things. These different stages are what gives us the idea that we are all different even though we are one. There was an interesting study done by the inventor of the polygraph which proved the consciousness of plants as well as provided interesting results on a study done on blood cells which showed receptivity of emotional states over hundreds of miles that separated the blood cells from the body and while the blood cells were being contained in a lead lined box!
If we consider the likeness of an atom or cell to that of a solar system or galaxy. It becomes possible that what we see at night in space ( different solar cells and galaxies all serving their purpose) could be the same as that which exists inside each one of us only on a much smaller scale. An example of the Microcosm and Macrocosm. As above So below. Yes this is a hermetic reference, but look at the name I chose

BEEF I’m sorry if you felt boxed in by anything I said. This was not my intention. I will not try and tell you that your opinion is wrong but I will always express my opinion freely and I will to do so without prejudice to the best of my ability ..I’ve read some of your comments before and can tell you are an intelligent person and that you have your own reasons for believing what you do…Not just because the church said so…I am just sick of people fighting over WHO God is…and who’s is the right God. When every living thing is of God. Once again I will not try to tell you you’re wrong for your beliefs just because I may not agree with everything you say. I considered my chat with omega files a conversation rather than a debate as I fully respect his opinion as I do

THOTH: no need to apologize for anything; just a healthy conversation. I just posted 5 long articles that I wish you would read. They don’t show yet, but maybe editors need to read through them or something, so I would assume that they would be up by tomorrow.

“There was an interesting study done by the inventor of the polygraph which proved the consciousness of plants”

Yes, before I was ‘born again’, I studied a lot of this stuff – it was my everything. In fact, I have a book by David Wilcox called ‘The Source Field Investigations’ which thoroughly examines this very phenomenon. I know the ‘As above So below’ origins and theology inside-and-out. And I promise you THOTH, it’s a trap. I caution you with all my heart to not be suckered in by it. Explore the need for a Messiah because we are all fallen, this is something that we cannot overcome under the false doctrine of singularity.

The Creator himself has invited us all to examine, search, explore, and reveal His Word. The Messiah knows that those who sincerely do this with a humble heart, and those who do this with their soul intent on truly discovering the Truth; those will indeed discover Him. The Messiah is not afraid of our examination of His Word, nor does He condemn it. In fact, He provided the ultimate platform, through the Bible, to facilitate our examination of Him. For these reasons, I am thoroughly convinced that through the study of Yahushua we can find out who we are, how we came to be, and where we are going. The very purpose of my life, and yours, is found in the person of our Messiah. And thankfully, He has invited all of us to examine the compelling evidence of who He is and what He has planned for us. It can be sobering and humbling because we are all without excuse. The secular worldview, powered by evolution and false doctrine, finds itself void of any intellectual fuel. With an examination of this evidence, it becomes clear that YHWH Elohim’s hand is dominant and constant in creation, and no other explanation in the world stands in this scientific age. The written Word alone explains who we are and who Messiah is. It is soothing to the mind, spirit, and soul because we have the answers; and it is also sobering because we will all be held accountable for the knowledge that we have been given. We will not be able to claim ignorance, for we have been exposed to the evidence. We are either for Messiah or against Him; there is no middle ground. The evidence and Truth, being so clear, removes any claim of a middle ground. Therefore, those of us who have experienced the Messiah’s heavenly gift – who have been ‘born again’ and filled with the Holy Spirit – cannot travel down that old dirt road which leads to some vague intelligent designer theory. We, as believers, simply cannot leave open-ended questions and speculation on creation; we cannot voice our Messiah’s grace through a muffled cough or careless whisper. Our time is now running out and our voices must be loud.

THOTH:

“BEEF I’m sorry if you felt boxed in by anything I said.”

That’s not what I meant. It is a GOOD practice to box in a person in a debate, and sometimes it’s a good thing to do in a conversation. Don’t worry about me or what I feel. What I meant was not to do it to yourself when you are actively seeking answers to these questions. When you contemplate these deep things, don’t build a box for yourself to escape from.

That was the gist of my message.