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Have “YOU” eaten the flesh and drank the blood of Jesus Christ? – if — NOT— then there is NO eternal “life’ in you.

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Have  “YOU”  eaten the flesh and drank the blood of Jesus Christ? – if — NOT— then there is  NO  eternal “life’ in you.

Do you fully understand what Jesus states in John 6: 53 ??






Just mouthing the words professing Christ is “your Lord” – accepting Jesus “into your heart” or what ever —does not insure salvation –PERIOD!!            


               MORE IS REQUIRED then mere words from your mouth.

               Words not followed by action are just merely words.


John 6

53  Then Jesus said unto them,Verily, verily, I say unto you, ——  Except —– ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, —— ye have no life in you.


Do you symbolically eat the flesh and drink the blood of Jesus Christ — our PASSOVER — once each year on the night of the 14th of Nisan as our Master Jesus Christ set as the example we must follow? 

The Spiritual Passover of unleavened bread and wine and not the flesh and blood of a lamb, instituted by Jesus Christ on that night of the 14th of Nisan,  will be observed after sundown this coming Sunday night by those that obey and follow the perfect example set by Jesus Christ.

The following night is a full moon which begins the Feast of Unleavened Bread.  A full moon — always — occurs on the night of the 15th of  Nisan (The night of April 10th this year).

In John 6: 45 -65 Jesus Christ explains why those drawn to HIM  – “BY” — the FATHER must eat the unleavened bread and drink the wine that symbolizes His flesh and His blood.

This Paper will encompass and include all that Jesus Christ taught from verse 45 through verse 68  that the reader may come to understand just mouthing words accepting Christ as Savior are nothing, are worthless.

BUT:  drinking the wine and eating the unleavened bread on the night of the Spiritual Passover   (the night of the 14th of Nisan)  IS ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED .


John 6:  45 – 68

45  It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God.  Every man thereforethat hath heard (wants to listen) , and hath learned (wants to learn)  --“of“  the Father, cometh unto me. (TO learn)

Is Jesus Christ not stating, every man that wants to listen and wants to learn of the Father — cometh unto HIM ?  Jesus Christ came to teach us to ask  our Father in heaven for all things.  It is the Father’s Perfect Way we must walk.

Jesus Christ taught His disciples they are to follow Him AS HE follows the Father and  NOT to follow Christ as He blazes a NEW direction – a New WAY!

One of the many purposes Christ came to earth to accomplish:  to reveal the Father to those His Father draws to Him.  Christ instructed His disciples to worship the Father and HIM only, to pray only to the Father and to follow our Savior, our Passover, as He follows the Father.

Study all of the statements of Christ that contain “Your Father in Heaven” you will find Christ taught His disciples to look to  “Your Father in heaven” for all things ;   confirming the statements above.

Our Father is greater than Christ and the Father’s first born Son points us as future Spirit sons to our Spirit Father.

How many of this world’s so called Christian churches teach their members to follow “ALL”, “everything” including the example Jesus set and the doctrines He taught and explain what Christ spoke and taught are  from the FATHER; which THE FATHER gave to Christ to teach.  The Doctrines Christ taught are not  ”HIS”  “New doctrines”, they do not abolish they make clear the Father’s WAY.  

Why did Christ come to reveal the Father— because the Father was NOT the one that is revealed through out the Old Testament.

46  Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God,he hath seen the Father.

If no man has seen the Father but Jesus Christ then who did Moses talk with face to face in the Wilderness for 40 years?

The Lord in Old Testament times is Jesus Christ:  THE WORD. 

John 1 shows Christ created ALL THINGS; everything on earth and in the heavens above was created by and for Jesus Christ. Only Christ has seen and been with the Father in the 3rd heaven and that statement alone makes it impossible that any man could have preceded the resurrected Christ to the Throne of God the Father in heaven.   

Jesus Christ IS THE ONLY “FIRST BORN” of God the Father or HE is not our Savior!

No man has ever been to God’s Throne except in vision. God the Father is coming to earth after it has been cleansed by fire, man is not going to heaven.

47  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

If you are not familiar with Isaiah 28: 9 – 13 then this statement by Jesus Christ will snare you. All scripture must be understood together, precept upon precept: line upon line, here a little there a little: for truth to be revealed each scripture must qualify complete and explain all others.

Look at this statement in this light; IF you do believe Christ then you will do what HE commands you to do.  Here Jesus Christ clarifies verse 47, “Why call you ME LORD LORD and DO NOT THE THINGS I SAY?”  If you claim Christ is LORD and Master but do not obey  Him— is HE truly your Lord and Master??

From verse 48 to verse 65 Christ explains more is required beyond just a simple belief, more than a simple stated acceptance of Christ as Savior to obtain the gift of eternal life.


48  I am that bread of life.

49  Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

The bread, the manna that came down from heaven foreshadowed that Living Bread which also came down from heaven; that bread of LIFE, Jesus Christ, which we must eat to gain the gift of eternal life.

50  This isthe breadwhich cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, -and not die.

If the symbolic bread and wine are not eaten on the night of the 14th of Nisan year by year – there is then —NO  ETERNAL  LIFE IN YOU — period.

51  I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

In verses 50 and 51 Jesus Christ makes very clear —- if you do not eat of His Flesh you will die: without symbolically eating His flesh you can not live for ever – to gain the GIFT of eternal life one of the conditions:  the flesh of Jesus Christ must be eaten.

So much for the false doctrine of the immortality of the Soul! And so much for the lie all one must do is “accept Jesus into your heart”.

Christ just stated the doctrine of an immortal soul is a complete lie. If a person is immortal that person can not die, that’s what immortality means, unending life and Christ states if you eat of HIS flesh –then- you will not die as immortality, eternal life comes through and by the “Bread of LIFE”.

These words above and below spoken by our Savior are Spirit and they are TRUTH!

These Words of our Savior cannot be nor have they ever been understood by the carnal physical mind of man.  Are you beginning to see why there are 40,000 flavors of confusion falsely called Christianity?  Truth is never confusion; Truth is not divided into 40,000 conflicting opposing Ways. 

52  The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?

53  Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life inyou.

Why must we eat the flesh and drink the blood of our Savior – and eat and drink we must if we are to gain eternal life? 

From a physical human point of view the words Christ spoke are repulsive, but Christ is speaking of the Spiritual and the Spiritual things of God can only be understood by those ‘begotten’ by God’s  Spirit — by the Holy Seed of God the Father impregnating those Called begetting them as spiritual fetuses’ waiting to be born again AS Sprit.

Our Savior Jesus Christ came to earth to die as our Passover thus paying our debt of death for transgressing the Holy Law of God.  It states in God’s Word clearly and without equivocation that there can be no forgiveness of sin without the shedding of Blood.  Sin requires the shedding of blood. Lev. 17: 11

God’s Word also states we are saved by the blood of our Spiritual Passover,  Jesus Christ of Nazareth and NEVER by the physical blood of a lamb.

Are the sins of a man on his outside?  Must we be washed by His blood in the same manner as we wash our bodies? NO!

 Where does sin come from?   Mark 7: 15 clearly shows where sin comes from — from within a man.

We drink Christ blood, symbolized by red wine, and we put it into our bodies and not on our bodies. We must be cleansed of sin from the inside out;  SIN is man’s very nature – and sin is within every human ever born.

Sin required – no demands – the shedding of Blood i.e. death,  Jesus Christ came to earth to shed HIS righteous blood for mankind and to die in our stead as payment for our sins against the Father.

All sin comes from within a person. Without the blood of Jesus Christ, symbolized by the wine, removing our sins, paying for our sins — we are none of HIS.  By taking that HOLY BLOOD into our bodies once each year we are acknowledging and accepting once more the sacrifice of Christ as our payment for our sins.

By drinking the blood represented by wine we are accepting the sacrifice of Jesus Christ thereby demonstrating we are willing to have our sins washed away by the shed Blood of Jesus Christ.

Unless our sins are paid for by the blood of Christ, eternal life is impossible as our sin would demand the penalty of death.

The Blood, as explained by Jesus at the Spiritual Passover, is His blood that must be shed as part of the New Covenant or New contract.  Luke 22: 20.

The Old Covenant/contract did not offer forgiveness and to fulfill the promise of our redemption to God offered by the New Covenant Christ had to die by the shedding of His Blood to make forgiveness and thus redemption possible for man.

Without the shedding of blood there is can be no forgiveness or remission of sin. Hebrew 9: 22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.


The shedding of Blood remove only sin — NOT the HOLY LAW of GOD.

The Law reveals to man what sin “IS” and by shedding of blood — sin is paid for.

When we drink of that cup on Passover  we are reaffirming the Covenant, we are renewing our commitment and acceptances of that covenant/contract perfected by the shed Blood of Jesus Christ. 

The BODY of Christ, God the Father’s Ecclesia , once a year on the night of the 14th of Nisan renews that Spiritual Covenant. 

When we eat the unleavened bread which represents the body i.e. the flesh of Jesus Christ we are willingly accepting our Savior and His father into our very being. Christ promised if we obey, He and His Father will make their abode in us, they do so through The ONE Spirit.

John 14:  

23  Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Jesus Christ states very firmly if you LOVE HIM you will “DO”, you will KEEP His Words:  mouthing the words ‘ I love Jesus and accept Him’ requires no keeping or doing and if you are honest you can find Christ requires much from those that LOVE Him.

24  He that loveth menotkeepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

Verse 24 confirms everything Christ taught is from the Father, not some bogus “NEW WAY” as many accept as truth.

The word translated “abode” is #3438 and also means residence (the act or the place) abode or ‘mansion’.  This word is used only twice in God’s word. Do you find it interesting it can be translated as ‘mansion’? It is use in John 14; 2 and 23.

Many are of the erroneous belief Christ will give His Saints houses in heaven, mansion?  Christ is preparing positions of authority which He will bring from heaven to earth, the Saints will have positions as kings and priest here on earth.

To come to earth as a mortal human Christ stepped out of immortality and into human flesh and blood and when He died for us He cease to exist for 3 days and 3 nights. Christ was dead — He was not an immortal soul:  if Christ were immortal then He could not have died for our sins.

Our Father resurrected Christ from death to immortal Spirit life as His first Born Son and thus within Christ is that same immortal Spirit life promised to the Saints i.e. the Body of Christ. When the Father and the Son make their abode in us they are placing in us the Divine SEED/Spirit which begins to impart the Holy Righteous Holy Nature of God.

By placing within us the very SEED of God, that ONE Spirit of the Father, our Father is begetting us as a Spirit fetus waiting to be born again at the first resurrection in the Very Divine Spirit Image of the Father as was HIS SON: Jesus Christ.

54  Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

Those that observe the spiritual Passover have the down payment on eternal life and AT the LAST DAY – not the 2nd to last or before the tribulation but the Last day when Christ returns at the Last Trump which is the 7th Trumpet of the Day of the LORD they will rise to meet Christ in the air as incorruptible spirit.

55  For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I liveby’ (#1223 through, on account of) the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by (on account of) me.

58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

On the night of the 14th of Nisan, as the sun began to set ending the 13th of Nisan and as night came, Jesus Christ sat down with His 12 Apostles.  

In Luke 22: 15 Christ told His Apostles  “With desire I have desired to eat  “THIS”  Passover (this Passover i.e. My body and My blood) with you   before I suffer”.  In all the Gospels there is no mention of the eating of a lamb at that so called “last supper”,  Jesus Christ was instituting the spiritual Passover with the bread and the wine: 

THIS”  Passover which if you eat you will live forever.

Christ would be dead and in the heart of the earth before all Jerusalem sat down to eat the physical Passover lamb when the night of the  15th of Nisan began; the physical Passover never offered eternal life.  

THIS”   Passover !   And who is our Passover?  I Corthinians 5: 7  “Christ our Passover”.         Go back to John 6: 50 in which Christ refers to Himself as “THIS” bread, Jesus Christ in Luke 22: 15  is referring to Himself, Christ desired to eat the symbols of the bread and the wine, His body and blood, with HIS Apostles before He suffered thus offering to them for the first time: eternal life- this was not the eating of the lamb — this is the Spiritual Passover under the New Covenant Christ instituted on the night of the 14th of Nisan.

Passover is not the night of the 15th when the lamb is to be eaten — Passover is the night of the 14th   of Nisan, Passover is the shedding of blood.

To the wise of the world all of this is foolishness, to the mighty and the noble it makes no sense, to the Called out ones of God it is Truth  and  it is  LIFE ETERNAL..

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  • b4

    god does not read the bible–never has–never will–god did not write the bible either–some primitive dudes in a cave wrote it–the word of men –not god–humans have zero ability to understand god–they are too petty,judgement,hateful to know god–like this notruthseeker–a true piss ant–the bible is for immature infant adults who are insane–it brings comfort to the mentally challenged–very few christians would be able to tell if god or satan was right in front of them–but thank god salvation is for all or hell would already be full,with bible thumpers,christians because of their evil judgemental in one hand,colt .45 in the other,ready to kill anybody who disagrees with their massive bullshit..

    • b4

      brilliant observation by a “for sure’ “brilliant” fellow.

      I do not like 45′s, 9′s and 223 are my choice. 45′s will not hold enough rounds, I like a mag with 16 rounds or more, my 223 has a drum that hold 100 and I only shoot those that try to shoot me first.

      have a nice brilliant day.

    • Perverted and trained to be cannibals just like the Spirit Cookers.

  • John 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
    58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
    59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
    60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
    61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
    62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
    63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: THE WORDS that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

  • No and I do not need the imaginary, astrotheology Jesus of the Bible. Spiritualism is of the free. And more of course… much more.

    • The scriptures were a way of keeping the knowledge of the Stars planets our own Moon.

    • so canderson you follow demons i.e. spiritualism??

      I have a close relative that is into spiritualism big time — it has not at all worked out for her and will not for you either.

  • 1 Cor. 11:20-34, “When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord’s supper.

    21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.

    22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? what shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.

    23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

    24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

    25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

    26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.

    27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

    28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

    29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.

    30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

    31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

    32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

    33 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.

    34 And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.”

    How often were the first century Christians meeting to break the bread and drink the cup? They were doing so every week. They didn’t wait for just the passover.

    You come in contact with the blood of Christ through baptism, that is immersion in water for the forgiveness of sins. Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16; Gal. 3:26-28, Eph. 2;13; 1 John 1:7.

    Once you are baptized, you have put on Christ, the Messiah, and you are covered by the blood of Christ as long as you walk in His light, and in His footsteps; conforming to Christ. Rom. 8:29; Eph. 5:8.

    Now, that you are covered by the blood of Christ, then the Old Testament Type of the Passover, where the angel of death passed over the houses that had the blood of the lamb over the lintels of the doors, so the judgment of death and sin passes over you who are covered by the blood of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    Now the passover happens at the time that each one of us passes from this life to the next, as long as we are in Christ. That is the new passover, and it is no longer an annual feast requirement. But, no harm, if you feel you have to, go ahead.

    • Gina

      Please show the scripture that states the Passover was changed to a weekly event either from the old or from the new.

      1 Cor. 11 does not show a weekly event. How often are we to do it? once a year on the night of the 14th of Nisan.

      Baptism is joining Christ symbolically in His death, burial and resurrection. The old sinful man dies, is buried and then comes up out of the water a new man.

      Immersion in water DOES NOT FORGIVE SIN — it is only by the shedding of Blood that sin is for given and ONLY the Blood of Christ can pay the debt for sin.

      Gina I agree we are to walk the SAME WALK as Christ and Christ KEPT THE TORAH and all the Holy Feasts of God and of course the 7th Day Sabbath.

      Gina Passover is not a Feast day it is not a Holy Feast of God, Passover is the preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread. It is the day the lamb is bled to death and on that day at the 9th hour our Passover was slain for us.

      42 It is “a night to be much observed unto the LORD”" for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel in that night of the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel

  • You might also want to reconsider when He came! Because He came for His second appearance as promised to that generation which was judged by Him, the first century A.D.

    So, then:

    i Cor. 11:26, ” For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.”

    Those Corinthians who read this text in the 1st century A.D. saw Him come back in A.D. 70 to take vengeance on those who pierced Him and those who persecuted His church, the saints. Does that mean that we no longer need the communion?

    Read more of the first century coming of Christ at my post, or at

    • gina

      If Christ came back in 70 ad then the lambs would be dwelling with the lions and there would be total peace on earth — there are hundreds of scriptures proving Christ has not returned as King of kings yet.

      ?? “Communion” is catholic and that body is the church of Satan. Like every thing they touch they perverted Passover into a “communion” and changed it to easter on the day of the sun — I hate all thing catholic.

      Gina did you read verse 53 if one does not eat the flesh and drink the blood THERE IS NO LIVE IN THEM — PERIOD. observing the spiritual Passover is not optional and must be done on the day it was established.

      • You are misreading that prophesy of the lions laying down with the lambs. What do you think 1 Pet 1:20 means when it says, “Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,”

        Christ was manifested on earth during the “last times” of the 1st century A.D. So you have to ask yourself what were those the last times of? Hebrews tells us that they were the last days of the Old Covenant. I have detailed much of the scriptures that are time elements of the latter days of the tribes of israel, but you don’t want to read and consider.

        You are being too literal. Eating the bread was representative of Christ’s body, and drinking the cup of wine was representative of His blood. The metaphor words of “like” and “as” are the clues and they are all throughout that prophesy of Isa. Chap. 11. It is not a literal text, but a figurative prophetic text of life under the New Covenant of the gospel of Christ.

        Suggest you read my post “The Valley of Dry Bones, …” and “The Prophesy of Micah.. No More War?” The Bible never speaks of the end of the world.

        In God’s prophesy language, the word “earth” is a metaphor for the nation and land that was under judgment. The word “heaven” was a metaphor for the ruling authority of the nation that God allowed to be in power at a particular time. The “stars of heaven” were the Israelites of old, and the remnant of Israel, the Judeans during the first century A.D.

        You must use the definitions of the metaphors found in the Old Testament so that you can recognize them as you see them in the NT.

        See posts for “Heaven and Earth Have Passed Away” and Parts II and III of the Signs of Revelation for these coded words.

        Luke 22:19, “And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.”

        1. Cor. 11:25, “After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.”

        WE are to remember His sacrifice for us whenever we eat the bread and drink the wine as a memorial to Him.

        The metaphors of the lion and the lamb: predator beast living along side domestic animal… those who come to Christ, formerly were of the predator nations, and they learn through Christ to become domesticated… thus lying down with the lambs / sheep.

        You must use context of the scriptures to determine

        • gina

          we agree on almost nothing –

          • Not bad, TS.

            But I saw you say the other day you have never changed the mind of anyone here in the BIN.

            Not true.

            You always give good advice on small-arm firepower!!!

            And you get a lot of Bible stuff right TOO!!!

            [Happy Passover, ya old timer.]


          • Also, Gina…

            You have that small Damascus thingy to contend with.

            Damascus has NEVER been destroyed. It has never been REMOVED from being a city. It has never been utterly laid waste.

            Now, you can spin and juke and jive all you like with that.

            But you can never change the historical fact that Isaiah 17:1 has not happened yet.

            It has not happened yet.

            But when it does…

            (And are you reading today’s headlines?)

          • I know it. It seems the entire world is stuck on this Catholic futurist doctrine, and cannot open their eyes. The broad way….

          • Maybe the futurists aren’t stuck, Gina.

            Seems to me there’s an awful lot you have no answer for. Damascus being the least of it.

            If we’re nearing the end of the Sixth Day, on a day-for-1000-year timeline per King David and the Apostle Peter, that is shaping up to be one hell of a coincidence. I mean, a 2750 year-old prophecy calls for the obliteration of Damascus as the inauguration to the Time of Great Trouble…

            …and that time is approximately NOW. (plus or minus a decade or maybe two) Just as Damascus is caught between two thermonuclear superpowers. For the first time EVER.

            That’s not the kind of thing you’ll be dismissing with the waive of your hand, Gina. At least, not if you’re concerned for wisdom.

  • @ Clintus…

    You might want to read some more history about the destruction of Damascus in the 8th century BC, approx. 732 BC under Tilgath-pileser III who took Samaria, the capital city of northern Israel into captivity at the same time. Isa. 17:1 has already been fulfilled.

    • No it has not, Gina.

      When the prophecy says Damascus will be TAKEN AWAY FROM BEING A CITY, you get nowhere with that argument. Your argument is error. Damascus was NEVER taken away from being a city, as evidenced plainly by the fact that it yet exists.

      When the Bible says TOTAL DESTRUCTION…

      …you can do as you like madam, but you might just want to consider taking the Bible at its word.

      I understand this is inconvenient to your beliefs, but all erroneous beliefs insist that the Bible must bend to conform. And that is precisely what I see you doing here, yet again.

      God has spoken on the matter and He has spoken with authority.

      You might want to at least consider the possibility that you’re wrong. That way you’ll still be able to use prophecy as a roadmap for the days ahead and will not have inflicted total blindness, unnecessarily, upon yourself.

  • Truthseeker, the concept that I keep trying to point out is that the futurist view of Revelation and the New Testament is a psyop of both the Vatican and the Zionists in their “state” of Israel which they both contrived and manipulated into creation in 1948. They both are working under their desire to make Israel the ruling power of the Middle East, and they cause all of these problems over there. All of the wars, and hatred and murder is the result of the Vatican and the Zionists. They want to make the people believe the Bible says that a 3rd temple has to be rebuilt in Jerusalem so that Christ can come again! The Zionists / rabbis and those imposters that call themselves Jews have rejected Christ as the Messiah because He didn’t do what was expected. He didn’t become King of Israel on earth, and make Israel a world power again like it was under Solomon.

    Even the disciples expected it. Acts 1:6, “…Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?” They didn’t understand that the Kingdom of Christ is heavenly and spiritual.

    So, the Vatican and the Zionists are causing these current events in the Middle East and then point at the Bible and say, “See, the Bible said this would happen.” Only that’s not what the Bible says. They have twisted everything in scripture to support their wish list. And, most people are buying into this psyop.

    Israel has co-opted the US gov’t. All of the representatives and the President have sworn to support and uphold the state of Israel, no matter what. So, the US Military is the strong arm of Israel, and what ever Israel wants, Israel gets. And, the American have been brainwashed to believe that God foretold it because the Zionists said so.

    Well, the Bible does not say that there will be a 3rd temple built in Jerusalem. The Bible did not say that the nation of Israel would be a world power, and would be saved everlasting.

    The Israel that has everlasting salvation are all those who are counted for the seed of Abraham through Christ, the Messiah. That is Israel today, and has been Israel ever since the first century A.D. See God’s Definitions Part I and Part II for the real House of Israel, and House of God.

    • ‘”…the futurist view of Revelation and the New Testament is a psyop of both the Vatican and the Zionists…”

      That is a bogus charge. There are multitudes of people who have come to the realization that MOST of prophecy, including MOST Old Testament Prophecy, treats of the days yet to come.

      You rob Scripture of its power when you look at it as a relic of the past, Gina.

      • Isa. 17:1, “The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.”

        It said it would be a ruinous heap. And, it was after the destruction under Tilgath-pilser III. Historians have recorded this. The Bible did not say it would never be rebuilt.

        Many false prophets have come and gone who have tried to use Revelation as a future road map with multiple dates for the “end of the world.” They all lied. And, they only succeeded in making many people doubt the word of God. They reason that if Christ said He would return “soon” and He has not yet done so, then He lied.

        The futurist view makes Christ appear to be a liar. It is wrong.

        The latter days were always the last days of the tribes of Israel. Gen. 49:1-10. Jacob / Israel used the term “latter days” in speaking of what would occur with each of his sons in “their latter days”. That is how the Old Testament always used “latter days” and “last days”. It always referred to the end of that nation of Israel, and the end of the tribes of Israel under the old Mosaic covenant. It never discussed the end of the world.

        Christ promised those people of the first century A.D. that He would return to them soon. He promised them that He would appear to them a 2nd time. He told them that all things would be fulfilled in that generation. He told them that all the blood of Able to Zacharias would fall upon that generation. To take His words out of the first century A.D. and move them 2,000 years into the future is denying Him.

        You might try actually reading what I have pointed out from the scriptures.

        • “…taken away from being a city AND it shall be a ruinous heap.”

          You either believe that, or you don’t.

          “…after the destruction under Tilgath-pilser III.”

          Tiglath-pileser III captured Damascus and killed its king. He did not lay waste to Damascus. He did not render it a ruinous heap. If you feel you can demonstrate otherwise, I will be happy to examine your sources.

          “Many false prophets have come and gone who have tried to use Revelation as a future road map with multiple dates for the “end of the world.” They all lied.”

          That is correct. And utterly irrelevant to our conversation. I don’t care what ignorant men have to say about the Scriptures, no matter how many of them there may be. I care only what Scripture has to say about itself. There were SIX DAYS until God’s rest in the opening sequence of Genesis. King David and the Apostle Peter make it plain that we should mark time according to 1000 years = a day, when considering these things. Whatever do you do with that? All you can do with it is ignore it or deny the painfully obvious meaning implied in the construct – which Peter even highlights the importance of and adjures us not to be ignorant.

          Then we consider the fact that the Bible makes it possible for us to calculate accurately the time from Adam until now. That leaves us nearing the end of the Sixth Day – leading into the Seventh Day, which will be the period of God’s Rest. You can deny that fact all you like, but you will get nowhere with people who actually know a thing or two about the Word of God and how to understand it. I have no need to explain away plainly-written verses the way you must. I have no need to explain away details such as the fact it is written Messiah must return early and cut those days short – for if not there should be NO FLESH left alive. I have no need to explain away what Revelation clearly describes as a series of GLOBAL phenomena which devastate the planet and its inhabitants. These things haven’t happened yet, Gina. And any suggestion to the contrary is an exercise in futility.

          “They reason that if Christ said He would return “soon” and He has not yet done so, then He lied.”

          Again – who cares how men reason? Not I. God tells us how He marks time, if we but pay attention to His words.

          “The futurist view makes Christ appear to be a liar. It is wrong.”

          You take your place among the confused, when there is no need for you to do so.

          “The latter days were always the last days of the tribes of Israel.”

          You know from our previous conversations that prophecy has an imperfect past and a future perfect fulfillment. The LORD speaks once, yea twice, yet men perceive it not.

          “Christ promised those people of the first century A.D. that He would return to them soon.”

          You continue to insist upon His meaning without seeking recourse to HIS definitions? Why?

          “He told them that all things would be fulfilled in that generation.”

          That is NOT what He said. He says things in a very specific way for very specific reasons. If we then come along after Him and alter His words, we will not meet with a happy ending. Where is John? Where is the apostle Christ said would tarry until He returned? Why had the other apostles concluded that Christ meant John would not die? THIS GENERATION shall not pass away…

          …as indeed it has not.

          Take Scripture at its word, Gina.

          “To take His words out of the first century A.D. and move them 2,000 years into the future is denying Him.”

          And to say as much is to bear witness to a profound misunderstanding of Scripture, rooted in a failure to take Scripture at its word.

          “You might try actually reading what I have pointed out from the scriptures.”

          I have read you work, Gina. You have constructed your façade atop an insufficient foundation. Your work will not abide because it is not wrought upon the foundation of Truth.

          • Gina I concur with Cintus except your foundation is built on deep sand and not rock..

    • Gina

      You are confusing the House of Israel with the House of Judah. Yes all the nations of the world have been blessed by the most powerful nations the world has ever seen.

      Who in the last 6000 years has been greater and done more for the people of the world then the British Common Wealth of nations and America??

      America is Manasseh and Britain is Ephraim God’s first born and at the return of Christ He will reunite the divide houses into ONE and they will be given the Promised Land in perpetuity as promised to Abraham.

      Genesis 48: 19

      19 ”And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he (Manasseh) also shall become “A” people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother (Ephraim) shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.”

      5 “Look towards heaven and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them and He said unto him, — so shall thy seed be “,

      Genesis 28: 14
      14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

      Gina when have these unconditional promises ever been fulfilled by the tiny number of Jews But they have been by the 10 tribes of the House of Israel.

      If the promises God gave to Abraham which ARE UNCONDITIONAL are not fulfilled then how are we to trust any promise of God.

      And Gina which Nation has had a king sitting on the Throne of David since the time of the last King of Judah?? Only England has a monarch and a throne that has continually existed for over 2500 years.

      And the Throne of David must exist to day with a seed of David sitting on it for Christ to return and rule from THAT Throne of His father David for EVER!

      Gina I know you will never see nor agree but I have known this for over 49 years.

  • communion for salvation is a doctrine that is as flawed as baptism for salvation….both ordinances teach spiritual lessons since they are the outward and visible signs of inward works (plural emphasized) of grace….the inward works of grace are essential to salvation. Getting wet in a baptistry tank while a preacher mutters a ritual formula doesn’t make you a christian any more than taking a car through a car wash and getting it wet makes it a christian.

    If you go under the Jewish Law to perform their passover meal rituals, you have fallen from grace and are severed from Christ…You are now accountable to perform the whole Law. Nobody can come up to that standard. You need to find a church given to sound doctrine that teaches a really good Galatians bible study…Go to that study and learn about grace and salvation by grace through faith alone. Have you heard of it before?

  • CANNIBAL CHRISTIANS. yes i have a problem with pizza gate, this christian practice is ritualist cannibalism……did you hear me……..ritualistic cannibalism. same pagan demonic mindset as the elites, like a wolf in sheep clothing.

    • Well, I identify myself as a believer in Christ, yet I haven’t eaten anyone yet. Please keep me posted in case of certain developments. I don’t want to “turn” in the night and end up eating my loved ones.

      Please keep me posted. The future of my family is at stake. If you know a cure for this “Christianity” please let me know before it’s too late.

      Sarcasm aside, you’re confusing Christianity with some other crazy sh*t.

  • Gina is the only commentor on here with a clue. The rest of you live in a fairytale world, and make things up as you go along.

  • destined

    I will encourage you once more, take even a small section of this paper and using logic, common sense and scripture proof it wrong.

    BY now folks know you will never attempt to prove any thing as nothing you teach can be verified by the actual Word of GOD.

    All you teach and espouse are twisted scriptures, twisted to conform to the satanic doctrines Satan has deceived you into believing.

  • The Body and Blood of Christ can only be received from the Catholic Mass.

    • I guess we all better convert to Catholicism then.

      Trent said so.

    • trent

      Jesus is never a catholic and not a catholic priest and HE gave to HIS Disciples the symbols of His Body and His Blood and it was not a “catholic mass” is was the Spiritual Passover that is to be observed once a year on the night of the 14th of Nisan. The 14th of Nisan is the preparation day and the PASSOVER — So much for catholic mess.

      Trent reread Hebrews again THE ONLY PART OF THE OLD COVENANT THAT WAS CHANGED IS THE PROMISES THUS the LAW remains an essential part and the reason the contract had to be changed was humans can not obey the HOLY LAW of God –Israel could never obey and needed the Spirit of God, HIS HOLY SEED, dwelling in them changing, converting their carnal human nature over to the Holy Righteous Divine nature of the Father and that nature is righteous i.e. lawful.

      Trent the TORAH is the mind of God the Father it is HIS Divine Nature as revealed to man and your demonic church demands that HOLY NATURE be abolished and replace with the same perverted nature of your priests you know the ones that pray on little boys.

      Colossians 2:16-17 “Let no man therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or in respect of a festival day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbaths, Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.”

      Trent the Holy Feasts of GOD and the sabbath ARE shadows of major events that are to come NOT XMAS NOT EASTER NOT LINT ETC I.E. all catholic days they invented.

      And Paul states do not let anyone BUT the body of Christ judge how they are to be observed.

      Trent I would let my body be burn on the stake by your satanic church before I would ever bend a knee to any thing catholic — burning on the stake is a catholic thing is it not?

      Trent Jesus Chriat is the head of the church appoint by the Father.

      18 And he is the head of the body, — the church –who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

      Trent there is not one mention of the position of a pope in the old or new testament and not one mention of a reward —a reward as Christ gave to the 12 apostles.

      Trent one day very soon your church and your pope will become the religion of the entire world and the world will worship as directed by your pope — and then Christ returns and cast your pope into the lake of fire.

    • trent

      Can you explain why the Father would move “His” Church from the HOLY eternal city of Jerusalem to the pagan cesspool called Rome??

      Move the Body of Christ From the City Jesus Christ is to return to = to the center of paganism ?

      I have been to Rome and to the pagan Roman church filled with idols and teeth and bones etc.

      If that is of God — I PASS, I will not have one thing to do with that church.

  • The Old Covenant, that includes the passover, is over.

    Hebrews 8:6-13 “But now he hath obtained a better ministry, by how much also he is a mediator of a better testament, which is established on better promises. FOR IF THAT FORMER HAD BEEN FAULTLESS, THERE SHOULD NOT INDEED A PLACE HAVE BEEN SOUGHT FOR A SECOND. For finding fault with them, he saith: Behold, the days shall come, saith the Lord: and I will perfect unto the house of Israel, and unto the house of Juda, a new testament: NOT ACCORDING TO THE TESTAMENT WHICH I MADE TO THEIR FATHERS, on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt: because they continued not in my testament: and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the testament which I will make to the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord: I will give my laws into their mind, and in their heart will I write them: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me from the least to the greatest of them: Because I will be merciful to their iniquities, and their sins I will remember no more. Now in saying a new, he hath made the former old. And that which decayeth and groweth old, is near its end.”

    Mark 15:38 “And the veil of the temple was rent in two, from the top to the bottom.”

    Colossians 2:16-17 “Let no man therefore judge you in meat or in drink, or in respect of a festival day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbaths, Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.”

    Israel of the New Covenant/Testament is the only Church Christ established, the Catholic Church. And His Church is the only place one can receive His Body and Blood.

    • “…the Catholic Church. And His Church is the only place…”

      You can say it 150 million times more, Trent.

      And it still won’t be true.

      • You can deny it 150 million more times. It doesn’t make it false.

        Catholic Sacraments are in the Bible, Bishops are mentioned in the Bible, the Mass is in the Bible, Apostolic Tradition is in the Bible, Catholic teaching is in the Bible, and St. Peter being made head of the Church is in the Bible. And He has a clear line of successors.

        • *visible head of the Church

          • the head must be visible at all times

          • So is liturgy within the deposit of the faith?

        • Protestant theology comes from Sola Scriptura

          Catholic theology comes from liturgy

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