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Bundy Militia Standoff: Ticking Time Bomb to Force Another American Revolution

Saturday, January 9, 2016 10:03
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In the first video below, as the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon reaches its sixth day, Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward and Ammon Bundy, leader of the armed protestors, held a surprise meeting in a remote wilderness area.

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As I said in my post titled, Oregon Militia Confirms They Are Not Leaving; Ready to Die For Freedom, I fear that the Bundy Militia’s rejection of the Sheriff’s offer to stand down, combined with the Oathkeepers Issuing Evacuation Orders To All Women and Children at the Refuge in the Oregon Standoff, are clear indications that matters are about to get real tense. 


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In the second video below, you can witness first hand that very hard to find video of the meeting between Ammon Bundy and Sheriff Dave Ward, compliments of Before it’s News video! Unlike YouTube, there is no censorship of video content based on political affiliation. As a person who contributes to multiple conservative sites, I assure you, there is an all out assault within social media platforms like Facebook (where I am currently under suspension), Google, and even Twitter to some extent to silence Conservative voices as much as possible. 

The article below speaks to the enormous pink elephant in the room. Sadly, thanks to a biased and incompetent mainstream media, most Americans have no idea there is even an elephant in the room, much less an oversized pink one. It’s absolutely unconscionable just how much our media has jumped into bed with the government, and that goes for ALL the media… including Fox News. The main way Fox differentiates itself from the competition these days, is not by reporting “Fair and Balanced” NEWS, but by reporting on complete FLUFF, but that they do indeed report on it in a “Fair and Balanced” manner. If Americans want actual news of substance, they simply HAVE to turn to alternative media.  

In the post titled, Oregon Militia Confirms They Are Not Leaving; Ready to Die For Freedom, which is where the video below is from, I give a rundown of what I believe are all the possible scenarios of the Bundy Militia standoff with the Feds.

Whether people agree or disagree with what is going on at the federal refuge, or with Bundy’s tactics, to the extent they even know about the standoff, is no longer relevant. Sorry. You’re opinion means nothing, so save it. The situation is out of our hands now, as we sit back and watch.

The article below explains PERFECTLY how the coming actions of the parties on both sides, and just how bad they allow the whole situation to devolve into another WACO, has enormous implications for the rest of the country.

The outcome of events in Burns, Oregon not only have a chance, but have a large probability of igniting a firestorm nationwide if things get messy… one not likely to be fought with picket signs if you catch my meaning… 


Oregon Sheriff Says Militia Has ‘No Intention’ of Leaving





Passions run so deep on these issues, that if shots are fired in Oregon, word of it will spread across the country in seconds.

At that point, everyone who has lived by the motto, “Ignorance is bliss,” may very well find themselves in a situation they are horribly ill-equipped to handle.

Roughly 13 million Americans have concealed carry permits, or around 5% of the population. They have the means to protect themselves.

What is YOUR strategy if you find yourself in the middle of total chaos breaking out while you’re in a crowded area? How do you plan to get to your family or children? Remember how long cell phones were down after 9/11. 



Brandon Smith, Founder of writes:

Well, there is whole host of things wrong with this situation, which is why I never supported or endorsed “Operation Hammond Freedom” to begin with. 

There is a lot of misinformation out there at this time on the debacle in Oregon, and certain alternative media outlets seem to be conveniently overlooking particular facts.  I suspect that some people in the movement simply want to “kick it off” (a second American revolution), and they don’t care if the circumstances of that kick-off are favorable or terrible (I realize “favorable” is relative, but starting this fight from a much stronger position is more than possible). 

This attitude was prevalent among some at Bundy Ranch, as certain groups refused to dig in positions for a real fight in the hopes that they would be “martyred” for the cause.  This, in case you were wondering, is idiotic.

Oath Keepers including founder Stewart Rhodes was the only organization to predict how Ammon Bundy’s vague calls for action on the part of the Hammond Family would actually play out.  They received a lot of ignorant attacks in response, and yet, they were absolutely right.

Ammon, apparently trying to recreate what cannot be recreated, is looking for another Bundy Ranch stand-off.  First, I would point out that such events can’t be artificially fabricated.  They have to happen in an organic way.  Whenever a group of people attempt to engineer a revolutionary moment, even if their underlying motivations are righteous, it usually ends up kicking them in the ass (Fort Sumter is a good example). 

Ammon’s wingmen appear to be Blaine Cooper aka Stanley Blaine Hicks (a convicted felon), and Ryan Payne (who claimed falsely during the Bundy Ranch standoff that he was an Army Ranger and who worked diligently to cause divisions between involved parties on the ground).  This was the first sign that nothing good was going to come from the Hammond protest.

I have watched extensive video from the event in Oregon and am privy to accounts from participants. 

From the information at my disposal, it would appear that Ammon and team did NOT make clear their intentions to occupy the federal wildlife refuge building except to a select few, inviting protesters to “take a hard stand” without revealing what this would entail until they were already in the middle of it all.  OPSEC? 

No, I think not.  Obviously the goal was to lure as many protesters to Oregon as possible to the event in the hopes that they would jump on board with the stand-off plan once they were more personally involved.  Numerous protesters were rightly enraged once they discovered the ultimate motives behind the event.

The plan is basically this – use the Hammond family as a vehicle (yes, this is what is being done) even though they did not want any kind of standoff to result and specifically refused aid.  Occupy federally owned buildings which have little to do with anything of importance and have no symbolic power as did Bundy Ranch.  Elicit federal response.  Wash, rinse, repeat.

Bundy Ranch had many positive elements going for it, which is why it ended the way it did.  This standoff has none of the same elements.  I suppose one could ask, though, why do I care?

It’s true, these people have every right to make positively naive strategic errors and I don’t have to participate directly if I don’t like it. 

The problem, however, is that Ammon and friends have decided they want to be the “tip of the spear” (his words, not mine).  I do not think they understand what this means, or they don’t care.  What it means is, even though I think the entire Oregon plan is ill conceived; literally the WORST possible way to launch a fight against federal corruption, if the federal government moves in a heavy handed manner to kill these people, I and many others will have to fight as well by default when a FAR better tactical and social position could have been achieved. 

My conscience simply will not allow the rationalization of the deaths of liberty minded people even if their stupidity brought about the circumstances.  And frankly, that pisses me off.

As a student of asymmetrics, I understand that choosing the time, place and circumstances is 95% of the battle ahead against an advanced opponent.  More organization is needed.  More preparedness.  More training.  More public awareness.  The Oregon standoff could steal away what little time we had left.

The Oregon standoff potentially forces the hand of the Liberty Movement, not the hand of corrupt government – the exact reverse of what should be happening.

Mike Vanderboegh has outlined similar thoughts expertly in this article.  Everything he has written is exactly what was going through my own mind when I heard of the happenings in Oregon. 

Ammon Bundy and companions are not the tip of the spear.  Not even close.  What I do fear is that they are cannon fodder beckoning a nationwide government crackdown to which I and others will then be forced to personally respond to with equal f*cking measure.  And all of this on the worst possible terms and at a very inconvenient time (executive actions on gun control mere weeks from now).

And here’s the best part; those of us who remain critical of the clinically retarded maneuver being executed here are going to be called cowards and “keyboard warriors”; it’s a given.  We are all ready to fight for the future of this country, we have been training diligently for it and helping many others along the way.  But, because we do not support two dimensional planning there are those that will say –“Now we find out who the real patriots are!”

Against stupid plan = coward against freedom and action.  Just watch.

If the Feds use brutality to handle the Oregon conflict, it will indeed “kick-off”.  There wont be any way to stop it.  Just don’t get too excited, folks.  This is no Lexington or Concord.  I really don’t know what to call it…



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  • BIn is good; I get censored

    • TICK, TICK, TICK – America is Waking up to the U.S. Constitution – Many are seeing it for the First Time.

      Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the U.S. Constitution – Provides 10 square miles around Washington D.C. which can be owned by the Federal Government, a.k.a. – the District of Columbia. This article also states that Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, Dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings can be controlled by the Federal Government, but only with the permission of the Sovereign State in which they are located.

      Knowing this, one knows the BLM has no authority to OWN, MANAGE, or RESTRICT millions of acres in the Western States and stop private ownership of those lands. It is also known that this clause removes any restrictions, other than from the sovereign state itself, of mining, logging, ranching or any other public or private uses of the land which is approved by the Sovereign state. Knowing this, one knows the BLM cannot setup and mark Wilderness Study Areas that keep persons out of an area, they cannot designate roads to be off limits or designate the types of mobility allowed to use those roads, and they cannot close, gate, lock, or restrict access in any way to public lands. These BLM lands are under the control and supervision of the Sovereign States they are a part of and not the Federal Government.

      (Clause 17 – Enclave clause)

      [The Congress shall have Power] To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

      • Oh, and by the way U.S. Military, this is the U.S. Constitution you swore an oath to defend and protect.

      • And notice how skillfully the propaganda agents of the corporate media insure that information is never broadcast or published. That’s why almost all Americans are ignorant of the fact that the Federal government is breaking the law of the land.

  • Are you aware that the reason the Hammonds didn’t want the support is that their lives were threatened if the even communicated with the Bunny’s?

  • These boys have already won.

    The media is now flooded with the reason why and the public is being geometrically exposing people to who, the what and the why the blm, fbi and other alphabet agencies are doing and how anti American and unlawful they are.

    Many now know that they no jurisdiction to steal or own land in the states.

    We know they are foreign owned mercenaries and enemy combatants for lack of a better description. They are fair game under the constitution.

    Meg Fox was exposed again for who she really works for when Mr. Bundy pointed out that the fed is the plaintiff, the prosecution, the judge and wants the land and are all paid for by the same corporate employer so there is absolutely no chance of anything that resembles a fair trial put on by the people acting under the Color of Law and using Fraud to steal everything.

    Retired Judges have come out, constitutional lawyers have come out and hundreds of other too in support of the rule of law and against the fed and blm who are in direct violation of the constitution and their oath of office.

    These corrupt people are committing Pure Treason, Grand Theft, Fraud and so many other crimes against the people you cant count them all.

    The more this all comes out, the greater the support for these brave men will be.

    The feds will be exposed and put out of the business of stealing land to use a collateral for their endless borrowing they need to do to stay in power.

    They are likely pledging assets they do not lawfully own, assets stollen from we the people and land owners around the country in name of greed and power.

    • Well said sir. May Allah admit you to Paradise.

  • Specifics for Sheriffs and Federal Agents Regarding the Difference Between “Law Enforcement” and”Peacekeeping” – by Judge Anna Maria Riezinger

    Virtually all the Sheriffs in this country have been converted in this surreptitious way from being “peacekeeping officers” to being “law enforcement officers” — leaving nobody in charge of enforcing the Organic Laws and Public Laws of this nation, except the People themselves, even though the People have continued to loyally pay through the nose for “Sheriffs” and “Deputies” and other such “services” aplenty. Now, given this as a background—- all you “Sheriffs” and “Deputies” and “FBI Agents” and others involved in this travesty— have to ask yourselves two questions:

    1. Am I working for a corporation?
    2. Am I therefore working in private or public capacity?

    If you work all day enforcing “codes, statutes, and regulations” you are a Mall Cop working for some version or franchise of the current “federal corporation” as a private “law enforcement officer” operating under
    international law. Any presentation or pretense otherwise is constructive fraud. You have no public office, no public bond, no capacity to exert any governmental authority on anybody.

    If you work all day long enforcing the Organic Law and Public Law you are a Peacekeeping Officer acting with all the authority of the actual government owed to the land jurisdiction of the people of the United States behind you.

    All corporations and all employees of all corporations are obligated to obey the Organic and Public Laws of this nation and if you do not, you are acting as an “Outlaw” on the land or a “Pirate” on the sea—–that is, as criminals.

    You are also perpetuating war crimes against unarmed non-combatants when you trespass upon private property and pretend to have any jurisdiction over it. The people of this country have the absolute right to
    defend their lives and their property with armed force, and even more so, when the threat and trespass is being offered by their own misdirected employees who are required to provide them with Good Faith Service.
    Everyone on both sides of this circumstance needs to wake up.

    All those presently acting as “corporate Sheriffs” and “FBI Agents” and “DHS Agents” and so on need to recognize the very, very thin ice they are skating on and be very circumspect in their actions.

    At the same time, they need to be asking themselves— hey, wait a minute! I am not a “citizen” of District of Columbia nor an employee of the bankrupt District of Columbia Municipal Corporation, and even less am I aware of
    being a UN Corporation employee! What is going on here? What am I doing? There’s no parachute for me. I have been recognized as merely a private corporate Mall Cop, trespassing on private property, which is against
    the Public Law!

    And those militia men are right. They are here to enforce the Organic and Public Law of this nation.

    In most cases, the “corporate Sheriffs” love this country and want to serve their communities, they are just clueless about the insane web that has been cast around them and the way that their authority and office has been altered via the mechanisms of incorporation.

    There is nothing stopping any of these men from reclaiming their own poltiical status as “one of the free sovereign and independent people of the United States” and occupying the actual vacated Public Office of Sheriff. There is then nothing stopping them from deputizing as many men as they deem necessary to arrest the criminals responsible for misdirecting and misinforming them and causing all this harm to this country and the people they are bound to serve.

    — Judge Anna von Reitz

  • Feds plan to use two stage tactic, first local police force backed with few agents will be pushed forward in ground intrusion with light, sirens and in unarmored cars and no tactical planning and with no air support, in hope that they become massacred by the militia. Then after media offensive, National guard will be used to seal off everything and ensure media blackout, afterward in next day in dawn low flying choppers will use machine guns and rockets to level everything… Day after, with another executive order, nation wide strike (Jade Helm on steroids) will be executed against domestic terrorists aka militias, oath-keepers, other patriotic groups, alternative medias etc.. On that day, nation that was born on 4th July 1776 will die, in silence. Brother is set against brother, sister against sister, please, no federal paycheck is worth destroying this nation. You salary will soon become worthless, one way or another, as this nation will bankrupt, so if you are trigger happy set for one last charge, hunt please hunt down tose bankers, main-media whores, corporate leaches, corrupt politicians, globalist and Illuminati cabal. Those are your real enemy, please do not go against your brothers and sisters because this nation will need all the patriots to heal itself.

  • It’s all damn joke, all who swore to uphold a constitution didn’t really mean it lest the Federal Government would be operating from within the boundaries set by the constitution.
    So if there is no constitution then it is a lawless nation and the gloves should come off by the American people, wait a minute the American people? they are to wrapped up in their own affairs and completely ignorant of what the founding fathers gave them and told them to be aware of.

  • Big Shout Out To FBI and 3%’ers for getting along today……..shaking hands and chatting at the FBI command center in Burns, Oregon.

    Thanks Pete Santilli for historical video……….

    I am not sure where Alex and Joe Biggs are?
    Where is Oathkeepers? Anyway I am sure they had a lot to do other places.

  • Article I, Section 8, Clause 17, the Enclave Clause, is plainly a grant of sovereign authority—indeed, exclusive sovereign authority—over the District of Columbia and other federal enclaves acquired with the consent of the state in which they are located.

    The Property Clause, Article 4, Section 3, Clause 2 does not enumerate a power for the federal government to buy or seize property, it says, “The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States….”

    Puerto Rico is a territory, but the government does not have the powers to dispose of any property there other than their military bases. Remember the Isla de Vieques? I do, spent many days there training as a young Marine, the government was forced to give it back to Puerto Rico. How is this this thing in Oregon is no different?

  • According to a Space info, the new American People’s Revolution will occur and win right near. This is the orders of the Creators.
    But, the US’s dictators Rockefellers’ clique is trying to distort this revolution to the ex Soviet Union’s type for holding the capitalist system’s tyrannical plutocratic slave domination, since the Soviet Union was the state-capitalist system.
    Jade Helm 15 being military exercises by US troops in 9 south-west States for the preventive counter-revolution’s operation from June 15 to August 15, 2015 didn’t succeed de facto, having remained in the pretensive outcome.
    According to a notice from the Creators, in the US the new civil war occurs near in NY, FL, Middle, TX and CA States, and the new American people’s revolution wins. But US dictators, Rockefellers’ clique is trying to distort this revolution to the ex Soviet Union type which was the State capitalist system. But this is never permitted by the Creators.
    Do fight for transition to the new Earth society of everything gratuitous services in all social areas in accordance with the orders by the Creators and the law of planet development.
    Otherwise, according to a notice from the Creators, an asteroid will collide to the US North. The USA and Canada will be annihilated. 3 billions Earthians will die.
    Survived 4 billions Earthians will build the new Earth society of everything gratuitous services in their all social areas with aids by the Galaxy Federation of advanced civilization planets.
    [note] Before It’s News site is waging the censorship against posted articles and didn’t announce them.
    Are you agents of CIA ?

    • What ever it is you are smoking….you should stop.

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